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    BREAKING: Fox working on American version of #Torchwood ... Details to come at AirlockAlpha.com
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    Fox Wants To Bring 'Torchwood' To America

    Yet another British import is making its way to the United States, but this time it's not only science-fiction, but it's also garnered interest from a major network.

    Fox says it wants to produce an American version of the hit BBC series "Torchwood," the "Doctor Who" spinoff that garnered critical acclaim and mass appeal last year for its "Children of Earth" miniseries. The British series, which stars John Barrowman as Capt. Jack Harkness and Eve Myles as Gwen Cooper.

    Many times, remakes of foreign programs get lost in translation. However, Fox is trying to sidestep that by keeping the British series' producers of "Torchwood" intact. Yes, that means creator and showrunner Russell T. Davies as well as executive producer Julie Gardner and Jane Tranter will be aboard the American version.

    Not that they will just be names in the credits. Davies also intends to write the pilot episode, which is beind developed by BBC Worldwide Productions, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

    In fact, the new show -- which will take on more of a global feel rather than the more localized Welsh take found in the original -- could even include Barrowman, who first established his immortal Capt. Jack in the first season of the modern "Doctor Who," a British iconic series that was revived by Davies.

    Such a project is still in the early pre-production stages, and it's not clear if this is a pilot order or what Fox has planned for the series.

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    question is are they going to show Jack Harkness as a Bi-sexual person? and to the what extent. Like kissing and all; knowing its FOX. there might be some cut downs.
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    I don't know if I should laugh or cry at this piece news...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilSpaceAlien View Post
    I don't if I should laugh or cry at this news...
    Sci-fi on Fox? I'd cry. Laugh, then cry. Then laugh again. Likely it wont make it, and then if it does, Fox will cancel it anyway.

    One has to wonder where this leaves the original series. I mean, I knew CoE was going to end TW as we knew it but I honestly thought there wouldbe atleast one more season.
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    Why?! Why?!

    This is such an awful idea. Is it going to be cannon if it's not made by the BBC?

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    I don't know what I think about this, I loathe Fox......but if they keep it the same cast and such...then their might be hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Replicator Todd View Post
    I don't know what I think about this, I loathe Fox......but if they keep it the same cast and such...then their might be hope.
    Barrowman has been linked to it, but I can't imagine that EM or KO would be too heavily involved. I mean, why go for an american remake instead of a season 4 if your going to use your existing british cast? We might see Gwen and Rhys from time to time, but I imagine we'll get an all new american cast.

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    Is it going to be cannon if it's not made by the BBC?
    Yes, I would imagine it will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashizuri View Post
    Barrowman has been linked to it, but I can't imagine that EM or KO would be too heavily involved. I mean, why go for an american remake instead of a season 4 if your going to use your existing british cast? We might see Gwen and Rhys from time to time, but I imagine we'll get an all new american cast.
    So in a way this show will be about a different branch of Torchwood? Then again its probably way too early to tell. I'd rather not have a US version of TW, I may live here but It doesn't mean I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Replicator Todd View Post
    So in a way this show will be about a different branch of Torchwood? Then again its probably way too early to tell. I'd rather not have a US version of TW, I may live here but It doesn't mean I like it.
    That's what I'm thinking. Perhaps we'll see the return of Captain SpikeJohn.

    With it being a "global" show, I can easily picture EM doing a guest spot or two if things get shady in Cardiff, but I do think we'll see new, american cast members as the leads.

    I didn't particularly want an american version either. The more I hear about TW in general I realize that I kind of wanted CoE to be the end, so maybe a completely new start can get me interested again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbellosom View Post
    Why?! Why?!

    This is such an awful idea. Is it going to be cannon if it's not made by the BBC?
    Quoted for truth. My reaction to seeing this news literally took these steps - shock, horror, fear.

    This has to be a nightmare I'm having right now. This just *cannot* be happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replicator Todd View Post
    So in a way this show will be about a different branch of Torchwood? Then again its probably way too early to tell.
    It pretty much has to be, doesn't it? I mean, the Cardiff branch is all but destroyed in CoE. I never understood how they could continue with Torchwood 3 after that. A new branch of Torchwood would make much more sense. And if this new show is made specifically for an American audience, it will probably be placed in the states somewhere, although the new group might spend more time investigating alien activity around the world (sort of like they do in Sanctuary).

    Quote Originally Posted by Replicator Todd View Post
    I'd rather not have a US version of TW, I may live here but It doesn't mean I like it.
    Agreed. Sad as it is, part of the allure of Torchwood for me was that it was so not American. It's partially why I put up with some writing that I considered to be quite shoddy. I liked that it was just a bit different than all the American paranormal/SF TV shows.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashizuri View Post
    I didn't particularly want an american version either. The more I hear about TW in general I realize that I kind of wanted CoE to be the end, so maybe a completely new start can get me interested again.
    Well, I like the idea of a "new start" to Torchwood. But when I first heard this rumor, my first words were "I hope RTD's not writing it!" And since it sounds like he is... that's not a new start. It's just a rehash of the same writing issues that plagued Torchwood series 1-3, IMO. If there was some new writing talent or a new producer behind it, then maybe I would have more faith in it. But as it is, I'm prepared to laugh my head off at whatever comes of this.

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    This has to be a nightmare I'm having right now. This just *cannot* be happening.
    Maybe it's denial on my part, but I don't quite believe that it is happening. It just seems like the latest in a long stream of post-CoE rumors. I half hope/expect that some producer or network executive will realize that this is a horrible idea and put a stop to it. *shrug* Who knows. Guess we'll have to sit back and see what, if anything, comes of it.
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    You do remember that Fox had the X-Files right?

    they HAVE done scifi in the past.

    It's an interesting concept, although i'm sure it'll be a heavily americanized version, likely taped in Vancouver and will be a mix of x-files/possibly sanctuary and will likely be similar to torchwood in theme only.....elite team of people operate outside the law to control/kill/contain monsters coming through a rift in time/space

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    For ****S SAKE!

    And yes, I know that'll get censored.

    Why does everything decent that is OURS have to get raped by US television. Seriously. Torchwood is inherently British, and what's more, inherently Welsh. It's the core identity of the show. I'm not sure which I find more offensive, the idea of simply a US version, or a canonical US version with the same characters. The US dominates Sci Fi, why does it have to dominate British sci fi as well? Torchwood is a British concept, both the show and the fictional institution, unless there's a Torchwood colonial branch in the US working to revoke America's independence, then the whole concept os frankly ********.


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    hey, no complaints from me in that...i LIKE brit shows. nice to see different actors, different locations, differnet attitudes

    so much is done in vancouver with the same 'ideals' and attitudes that I get bored with it.

    i'm not gonna doom and gloom it, but dude, can they come up with ANYTHING original? or, in addition to sequels and reboots, must they now 'remake' every foreign show into a US version?

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    Well with any luck nothing'll come of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Bennett View Post
    unless there's a Torchwood colonial branch in the US working to revoke America's independence
    Actually, I'd totally watch that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khentkawes View Post
    Well, I like the idea of a "new start" to Torchwood. But when I first heard this rumor, my first words were "I hope RTD's not writing it!" And since it sounds like he is... that's not a new start. It's just a rehash of the same writing issues that plagued Torchwood series 1-3, IMO. If there was some new writing talent or a new producer behind it, then maybe I would have more faith in it. But as it is, I'm prepared to laugh my head off at whatever comes of this.
    I suppose it's actually more fair to say that I am mostly uninterested because (1) CoE still fills me with rage, (2) Davies writing is either hit or miss, and for me it's mostly miss and I have a hard time watching his stories without getting bored or frustrated (interestingly enough, I like his straight drama writing, like QaF and Bob and Rose, it's his Sci-fi that leaves me cold), and (3) after Davies appalling comments towards the fans after CoE it's hard for me to get behind anything he does. I would have much preferred TW to be left in the hands of a different writer when Davies left for America...

    If it really happens, I will likely give it a chance on account of Barrowman being involved, but it will have to be amazing to keep me involved.

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    Why does everything decent that is OURS have to get raped by US television. Seriously. Torchwood is inherently British, and what's more, inherently Welsh. It's the core identity of the show. I'm not sure which I find more offensive, the idea of simply a US version, or a canonical US version with the same characters. The US dominates Sci Fi, why does it have to dominate British sci fi as well? Torchwood is a British concept, both the show and the fictional institution, unless there's a Torchwood colonial branch in the US working to revoke America's independence, then the whole concept os frankly ********.
    That's hardly a fair analogy. It sounds more like Davies et al came to America with this specific idea in mind. I mean, people have been speculating that Davies and Gardner wanted to take TW to the US after CoE destroyed TW three and both of them went to the states. So instead of blaming America for "raping" something that is inherently British/Welsh, why not blame the British/Welsh people who came to America with the idea to give it away? I mean, yes, I'd rather it stayed in Wales, but I'm not going to blame American for stealing it like a theif in the night when it seems that the TW PTB are giving it away with no worries other than getting their share of the American money.
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    Well regardless of who brought the idea, I can understand why the rest of the world seems to hate us so much. It makes America look like their people think they are better than everything, which I most certainly don't think that. Maybe i'm not American. But I will remain hopeful, I think i'm more bitter over the fact that its Fox, they are good at canceling fan favorite TV shows. The X-Files was and still is great, and may be the only successful show on the Fox network. I love TW, but if Fox meddles with things it could be manipulated and changed completely, and if its successful then that would just be insane.

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    I can understand as well, because honestly, with the exception of Qeer as Folk and the Office, the British originals are usually far superior. It's just in this case, I don't think the analogy holds. Davies wanted to come to America and he wanted to bring his show with him. America didn't steal or rape anything, it just took what was offered, and considering how successful TW is they would have been silly not to.

    Is it a bad idea? Yes, certainly. Was it America's bad idea? For once I'm pretty OK with saying no, it wasn't. It seems Davies wanted his chance in America and he wanted to take that chance with his show. Can't really blame him for it.
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