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My thoughts about Sam and Jack in the third movie (spec and spoilers)
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Jack and Daniel...the old married couple.
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Originally posted by majorsal View Postis a kiss too 'not subtle'?
me wants a kiss!!!!!
i mean, i want sam and jack to kiss!
Originally posted by majorsal View Postit's went on for *so* long, and i really believe this 3rd movie will be the end... no more games, no more stretching it out, b/c there prob won't be another chance to tie up this storyline. so yeah, ambiguous has been done over and over...
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Originally posted by Ashizuri View PostHow do you know this supposed confirmation/romantic scene isn't set after Jack retires? Or after Sam is wounded so bad she is medically discharged? Or Jack is fired? Sure, none of those scenarios are very likely at all, but we don't know how or when the "romance" happens so the idea that it will show the military in a bad light is pure speculation at this point.
Besides, this is a show where a General (Landry) went on a personal vacation with his subordinates. I can't see how Sam/Jack would be considered any more inappropriate than that.
If thats the case, then it doesn't matter if Daniel's in the movie because he's not the Daniel we started out with. No need for Teal'c either. Why not just get a whole new team.
Really, this isn't a Sam/Jack-only issue. I've seen Daniel/Vala fans want confirmation. I've seen fans of every pairing in every fandom want confirmation. I've been one of those fans on occassion.
TPTB have led Sam/Jack fans on a merry chase for years, always teasing and never following through. I hope this time they actually get the moment they're hoping for.Originally posted by col aga View PostCan you give some examples? From what I've read neither MS nor RDA were particularly thrilled with their characters being slashed and the scenes were changed specifically to avoid slash contex (locker scene from Fallen comes to mind) so what you say in news to me.
Just don't say "wedding" in 200 because this episode was making fun of everything in fandom I mean actual episodes.
About S/J in the third movie..as a shipper of course I'd like to have some confirmation but while I wouldn't be unhappy with a big kiss or something along these lines I'd prefer something more subtle. Mentions of their home or vacations spent together or some photos showing them as a couple would work just fine for me.
The placement of the "romantic scene" BW wrote also doesn't matter to me as long as it's not at the very end - this should belong to The Team. 4 of them or 7 of them, whatever whoever likes, but the whole team, together. I just think that S/J scene at the very beginning would be easier to do (and to swallow ), plus it would save time spent on notifying the characters about the new challenge.
And I have absolutely nothing against other ships, slashes included. Thank you for the interview, and the bit about how jack/daniel slash is taken by the cast and crew. I think it's nice. Besides, you know, I've always thought that Sam and Teal'c made a good couple, and I'm sure that during the 50 odd years they spent on the ship in unending, something happenned between them. And I'm fine with that. It just doesn't prevent me from wanting sam and jack ship and even confirmation in the 3rd movie 'cause I think they're are too good together to be left apart. MO.
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Originally posted by kymeric View PostStill needs a family. Somewhere to visit on holidays. 20s about the age where u grow out of the college partying and go looking for family. Unless shes found a BF and is leeching off him.sigpic
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Originally posted by kymeric View PostStill needs a family. Somewhere to visit on holidays. 20s about the age where u grow out of the college partying and go looking for family. Unless shes found a BF and is leeching off him.Originally posted by CallistaAhhh! Ashizuri can see into the future!!
Originally posted by HPMomShe saw the candle light as many things.
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Originally posted by Tanie View PostI'd love to see s/j wear matching rings. That to me would be the confirmation I've been waiting for. I'd be happy to see a more 'romantic' scene as well, but just the rings would be enough.sigpic
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Originally posted by flynn1959 View PostAs most wedding rings, i.e plain gold bands, look the same, all that would prove was that they were both married, not necessarily to each other. Jack could have decided to go back to his wife Sara and Sam could be married to Teal'c or Major Davies.
And it's Davis, is it not?sigpicThanks to Oma-1 for the beautiful banner!
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Originally posted by kymeric View PostStill needs a family. Somewhere to visit on holidays. 20s about the age where u grow out of the college partying and go looking for family. Unless shes found a BF and is leeching off him.
Spoiler:Cassie wouldn't need to leech off anybody. She undoubtedly inherited a fair amount of money from Janet, and certainly Jack and Sam (and probably Daniel, too) would support her in any way that was needed. And I highly doubt that Cassie would have turned into the kind of person to leech off anybody.
She would have been 18 (or almost 18) at the time Janet died. By Stargate time, 5 or 6 years have passed since Janet died, so Cassie would be 22-23-24, and maybe graduated from college and working at whatever field she was studying.
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Originally posted by leiasky View PostExactly. So if that were to happen, you can think right along those lines and others will think what's actually plausible
And it's Davis, is it not?
And yes I do believe it was Davis, thanks
In all seriousness I very much doubt that even if Jack and Sam were to waltz through the gate holding hands, wearing matching rings and humming the wedding march that most people would care one way or the other, do you? It would make for a very funny scene though.I know I would laugh my head off at that.sigpic
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Originally posted by flynn1959 View PostAh, well if we're talking plausible then I suppose people will think Jack has gone back to Sara and Sam has married, well, just about any of the vast number of men/beings she has been linked to throughout the seasons. My vote is for Teal'c. Now that is a pairing that had real chemistry, imo.
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Originally posted by col aga View PostWell, if you think Jack going back to Sara, who was mentioned a grand total of 4 times in the entire show's run (and 3 of those times were in season 1) is plausible...
And Jack has precedent that he can find other women.
It's not even the ship itself that bothers me, its the whole "Fate" aspect of it. They couldn't let the fans see is grow in itself and instead, they consistently teased and annoyed with things like all teh differnet AR's where Jack and Sam got together right off the bat, or episodes like Shades of Grey wher eit's just "Natural" for them to get together even if they're not the same person.
You know what episode i loved? Solitudes.Originally posted by Apostle's Message ReduxShepard understood. Given the situation, he wasn't sure that exposing the planet to this kind of secret was smart. Miranda had regaled him with stories of how horrible 20th century Earth sounded in her history lessons and it made him leery. "I agree, god knows what would happen if Grunt got loose."
Joker snorted and muttered loudly. "Run! It's The Incredible Hulk! Kill it with fire!"
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Originally posted by col aga View PostWell, if you think Jack going back to Sara, who was mentioned a grand total of 4 times in the entire show's run (and 3 of those times were in season 1) is plausible...
Of course, we are not talking about real people so anything is possible. If Jack and Sam are retired in the movie and it is shown quite clearly that there was nothing at all between them when they were still in the military then maybe, just maybe, showing them in some sort of relationship might be acceptable. I just don't think it would come over as realistic, Sam and Jack have zero chemistry. In fact, I can't think of two characters on Stargate who would seem to me less likely to get together.
But, when it comes right down to it, TPTB will do whatever they want, pair off whichever characters they see fit, and to be honest after this amount of time it doesn't really matter to more than a smattering of people if they marry Jack off to Siler. Well, actually, now that I've written that I think that would be a great way to end the whole thing.sigpic
Jack and Daniel...the old married couple.
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