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    Default Re: The End of Time, Part 2 (2009)

    i agree with you

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    Perhaps the ONLY TV death I felt anything for........ Usually I just don't bother as you can't get attached to TV characters. Sorry that's just how I feel.




    The whole of the last 20 or so minutes in the final episode of "End Of Time" when he talks to Wilf "is this my reward" and the mini tantrum throwing stuff. very emotional and brilliantly acted by DT.....



    Also him visiting companions to say bye..... Funny thing though Did Martha and Mickey realise why he suddenly appeared there? Seems like they got the message somehow? Seems like everyone got this thing that it was the final time they'd see The Doctor, which made it feel more emotional.....


    Did anyone else get that vibe?


    Also why this particular regeneration caused damage to the TARDIS?


    Was he still in 2005 when he crashed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Pops View Post
    Did anyone else get that vibe?


    Also why this particular regeneration caused damage to the TARDIS?


    Was he still in 2005 when he crashed?
    - Definitely.

    - My theory: Notice that the Tenth Doctor puts off his regeneration for a pretty long time. Maybe a Time Lord can through force of will "bottle up" regeneration energy, but the consequence is that the release of that energy is very powerful, thus damaging the TARDIS to the point where it needs repair.

    - I'm not sure at the moment. Did the Doctor crash at Amy Pond's house after time-traveling... or what?

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    It wasn't in 2005. It was in about 1993.

    Something like 10 or 12 years passed between first meeting Amy as a child and her older version, and in "The Hungry Earth" the summary has it, I believe, as being 2015 and 10 years after their journeys with the Doctor ends.

    I believe.

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    This episode was an interesting look into why the Doctor had to trap his people inside the time lock and was a nice farewell to DT as the Doctor. The undertone of the whole special was kind of sad, Wilfred really pulled me in emotionally and his goodbyes to everyone at the end was kind of special!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spimman View Post
    This episode was an interesting look into why the Doctor had to trap his people inside the time lock and was a nice farewell to DT as the Doctor. The undertone of the whole special was kind of sad, Wilfred really pulled me in emotionally and his goodbyes to everyone at the end was kind of special!
    Indeed it was a good send-off for Tennant but it was also a great send-off for all the companions he encountered from the beginning of the RTD era. Additionally, I thought it was a good way to have Master out of the picture in a way that didn't paint him as irredeemably evil. Getting all of these threads out into the open nicely cleared everything for the Eleventh Doctor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Fuzz View Post
    Additionally, I thought it was a good way to have Master out of the picture in a way that didn't paint him as irredeemably evil.
    Indeed, he turns out to be an extremely tragic figure.

    And it's all that Rassilon's fault! "Back into the Time War, Rassilon! Back into Hell!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulkesh47 View Post
    Indeed, he turns out to be an extremely tragic figure.

    And it's all that Rassilon's fault! "Back into the Time War, Rassilon! Back into Hell!"
    Indeed. And the music that played when the Master saved the Doctor was brilliant. "The Clouds Pass" I believe is the name of the track from the End of Time soundtrack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Fuzz View Post
    Additionally, I thought it was a good way to have Master out of the picture in a way that didn't paint him as irredeemably evil.
    Good point, it was good to see that, he truly was more insane that purely evil!
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    so, what exactly did the Doctor mean when he said that he was going to get his reward?
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    I took it to mean that as a reward for his suffering, he was treating himself to seeing his companions for one last time.

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    Not even the TARDIS could handle the end of the tenth doctor.

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    I miss the tenth doctor
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    I don't 11"s awesome

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    well, it is good that we do not all have the same taste and preferences, otherwise life would be annoying

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    the Doctor married Queen Bess? is that's the reason why at the end of "The Shakespeare Code", the Queen arrives and declares the Doctor to be her enemy and at that time he had no idea why?
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    "I don't want to go"

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    Just watched this again recently.

    I'm a bit puzzled as it's not explained properly I thnk. This bit.

    The Doctor leaves after seeing Rose. He's on Earth in 2005 but then is in Earth orbit when he crashes. He crashes into Amy Pond's garden.... Is it still 2005 or a different year?

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    Must be a different year, otherwise Amy wouldn't be an adult in the "present". Great send-off for Tennant and certainly one of my favorite episodes
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    idea for what the "moment" actually is,

    take the untempered schism allowing you to see all of time and space

    take a de mat gun,

    hook the de mat gun up to the TARDIS link to the eye of harmony to super charge it.

    picking the exact right time where every time loop in the war is synced, every enemy both dalek and timelord is in position in literally the right moment, with regret that not only is it genocide to both races but also to possibly countless others across time as you mutilate their history.

    the demat gun hits the vortex, severing the timestreams of all the timewar into their own continuum seperate from access by the time vortex but as seen in the end of time still in existance , the resulting power surge would destroy gallifrey and all the TARDISes linked to the eye of harmony, creating fixed time and destroying anyone with time travel travelling back on their own history to change things. the doctor survives by the thinest of chances and is forced to regenerate.

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