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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky View Post
    Love all the ideas I'm seeing here, but one thing still bugs me: What IS up with Wilfred?
    From the trailer that is floating around on Post 13, he seems pretty handy in a turret....using the Force??

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky View Post
    Love all the ideas I'm seeing here, but one thing still bugs me: What IS up with Wilfred?
    The chameleon circuit on his Tardis is functioning too well and makes even him think its just an ordinary allotment shed even when he is inside it and the gun is actually a laser screwdriver.....

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    I fell about laughing when he tried to answer his gun when the phone range, the Mrs whacked me and said "this is supposed to be a serious scene, shut up!"

    Quote Originally Posted by stargatefan234 View Post
    by the logic he wasted a regeneration, he would be the eleventh doctor, not the 13th.
    Slaps forehead with wet kipper, I dunno where I got he was the 13th from oops.
    I blame the Mrs, see ^^ LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian-S View Post
    Wasn't Billy Piper supposed to be in this too?
    Yeah, she was, as was Captain Jack.

    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    Spoiler:
    The Doctor does die, and the Time Lords resurrect him--thereby restarting his regeneration cycle and solving the 13 lifetimes issue that would be coming up in a couple of years.
    That would actually make sense. We know in the new 2010 series, the Doctor gets a new Tardis, new Screwdriver, the works really. Its a good chance that him, his Tardis, and his trusted screwdriver all perish, and are ressurected (in the Tadris' case, grown) and set off again..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian-S View Post
    I fell about laughing when he tried to answer his gun when the phone range, the Mrs whacked me and said "this is supposed to be a serious scene, shut up!"
    Haha, that was brilliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerilon View Post
    Yeah, she was, as was Captain Jack.

    That would actually make sense. We know in the new 2010 series, the Doctor gets a new Tardis, new Screwdriver, the works really. Its a good chance that him, his Tardis, and his trusted screwdriver all perish, and are ressurected (in the Tadris' case, grown) and set off again..

    Haha, that was brilliant.
    there's still 75 minutes left, and scenes with billie piper WERE filmed


    People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint... it happens to kinda look like the name 'Jeremy Bearimy' in cursive English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMN1 View Post
    From the trailer that is floating around on Post 13, he seems pretty handy in a turret....using the Force??
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who spotted that, I half expected him to say "They're coming in too fast"

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    I dont think anyone has put much stock into the impact of Waters of Mars into this, Changing a fixed point in time having ramifications.
    I dont beleive the Doctor did it first, but something is happening where this timeline is coming to an end because of something being undone in the past.

    this should be interesting

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    The Good
    >The Master makes a mean Mistress.
    >The Doctor talking to Wilfred and seeing Donna. That one scene made the whole thing for me. I really felt for the Doctor and his fear of both dying and regenerating.
    >Donna! I love you! Please get to use some of that knowledge in your mind!
    >Torchwood mention!
    >The Doctor's sleigh ride in the intro spot.
    >Is the woman in white that Wilf sees Romana?
    >The TARDIS in stained glass.

    The Bad
    >Timothy Dalton's spit.
    >The Time Lords're coming back? That's like bringing back Krypton... Wait. That just happened. Never mind.
    >The Master race. Though hilaRious, it's just... cheesy. And I don't feel much trepidation for the human race.

    The Ugly
    >Lucy Saxon? The Book of Saxon? The cheesy 'floating in mid air amidst energy' sequence? The badly cgi'd Master flying bits? The black guy and his daughter and their slightly incestuous relationship and horrid acting? WTF?!

    The Verdict
    I enjoyed it, despite much of it being highly cheesy. I enjoyed Waters of Mars far more. I can't wait for part 2!

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    Lucy Saxon ugly?
    I thought she looked quiet fetching in that skimpy tracksuit.

    *prays wife never sees this*

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    I don't think he meant Lucy Saxon was ugly, but that the part involving her was silly

    Of course Lucy Saxon is stunning. Even a sweatsuit can't make her any less sexy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    I don't think he meant Lucy Saxon was ugly, but that the part involving her was silly

    Of course Lucy Saxon is stunning. Even a sweatsuit can't make her any less sexy.
    Actually I thought the sweatsuit made her MORE attractive.


    But then I'm weird like that...


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    You like your women exercised and sweaty, I take it.

    Lucy is far from ugly, but her storyline could use a good plastic surgeon.

    I was hoping that UNIT would be behind the Master's resurrection. I mean, the Doctor isn't always there and it's always handy to have a Time Lord around, even a psycho one. Yes, I'm using that flawed, faulty and self-destructive human logic there. I wanted them to resurrect him [thinking they could control him] and lose control of him, as expected. Humans again bringing about their own destruction. But, alas, nope.

    And what was with the Master having a Sappho cult hellbent on his resurrection? Could it be related to the nunnery that the Doctor saved in the 13th C, the one Wilf was told about? I was thinking so, but I suppose I'm linking too many things... Unless the Doctor goes back in time with the 'great darkness' that's coming during the 2nd episode and destroys it on that spot, then the TARDIS gets the stained glass treatment. Hmm. Yup, thinking too hard.

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    I just watched Part 1 again, and man I can't shake the feeling that Wilfred Mott is involved with the Time Lords somehow.

    The Doctor keeps encountering him, even before he met Donna. Donna was able to handle the human/Time Lord mix. Now he's the only one seeing the woman in white, who said to him that he was a soldier who joined the war too late to do anything--without actually saying which war she was referring to. Yes with the revolver it's pretty heavily implied that it's WW2, but I do find it intriguing that it's not specified.

    Some sort of Time Lord sleeper agent perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nx01a View Post
    You like your women exercised and sweaty, I take it.
    Damn right.


    Quote Originally Posted by nx01a View Post
    Lucy is far from ugly, but her storyline could use a good plastic surgeon.

    I was hoping that UNIT would be behind the Master's resurrection. I mean, the Doctor isn't always there and it's always handy to have a Time Lord around, even a psycho one. Yes, I'm using that flawed, faulty and self-destructive human logic there. I wanted them to resurrect him [thinking they could control him] and lose control of him, as expected. Humans again bringing about their own destruction. But, alas, nope.
    Hmm. That would have been good - if a unfortunate that UNIT always appear rather blundering/evil these days (except in Planet of the Dead). The cult thing WAS a bit bonkers. And on that I was really hoping the squads hunting the Master were government. Not UNIT or Torchwood... but whichever gang were the antagonists in CoE. UNIT are too clear cut in their intentions - I do like a bit of conspiracy.


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    Digi... You're saying that Wilf may be a Time Lord who used the chameleon arch to become human and had a kid who had a kid who became half Time Lord? Or is that what I'm saying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nx01a View Post
    Digi... You're saying that Wilf may be a Time Lord who used the chameleon arch to become human and had a kid who had a kid who became half Time Lord?
    Yeah I think that about covers it

    Or something like that, anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Bennett View Post
    Hmm. That would have been good - if a unfortunate that UNIT always appear rather blundering/evil these days (except in Planet of the Dead). The cult thing WAS a bit bonkers. And on that I was really hoping the squads hunting the Master were government. Not UNIT or Torchwood... but whichever gang were the antagonists in CoE. UNIT are too clear cut in their intentions - I do like a bit of conspiracy.
    UNIT were kinda evil in PotD. Holding a gun at the scientist's head in order to make him shut the portal and strand the Doctor [and the little people]? Bad UNIT! Bad! Also foolish UNIT. Even if a swarm of stingrays came through while waiting for the Doctor, they had the TARDIS right there. The Doctor in the TARDIS can deal with a few civilization-eating space fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    Yeah I think that about covers it
    Or something like that, anyway
    In that case... the Time Lords ALL escaped Gallifrey by becoming human and sending themselves back to 20th/21st C Earth, leaving Wilf to pop out a watch and resurrect them all when the time was right? Nope, that'd be too much. I want some huge temporal thing to bring back the Time Lords... if they must come back at all. I really prefer the Doctor alone, but maybe he's been alone too long. I think that was the point of episodes like 'Dalek', 'Turn Left' and especially 'Waters of Mars'. The Doctor all by himself is a danger to himself and the universe. Maybe bringing back a hierarchy to rebel against will be good for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nx01a View Post
    In that case... the Time Lords ALL escaped Gallifrey by becoming human and sending themselves back to 20th/21st C Earth, leaving Wilf to pop out a watch and resurrect them all when the time was right? Nope, that'd be too much.
    Don't put words in my mouth, I just said Wilf, not all the Time Lords

    I'm interested to see how all this fits together though. The four drumbeats, one beat from each heart of two Time Lords (the Doctor and the Master)? And the Master being the only one to hear it, is he the key to the resurrection of their race?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    I just watched Part 1 again, and man I can't shake the feeling that Wilfred Mott is involved with the Time Lords somehow.

    The Doctor keeps encountering him, even before he met Donna. Donna was able to handle the human/Time Lord mix. Now he's the only one seeing the woman in white, who said to him that he was a soldier who joined the war too late to do anything--without actually saying which war she was referring to. Yes with the revolver it's pretty heavily implied that it's WW2, but I do find it intriguing that it's not specified.

    Some sort of Time Lord sleeper agent perhaps?
    Well, remet Donna - he did meet Donna first in the Runaway Bride.
    But yes. IT definitely starts feeling suspicious with Wilf. As long as he survives part 2, I don't care though.
    Well, I will care if he turns out to be The Doctor's and the Master's secret father...

    Quote Originally Posted by nx01a View Post
    UNIT were kinda evil in PotD. Holding a gun at the scientist's head in order to make him shut the portal and strand the Doctor [and the little people]? Bad UNIT! Bad! Also foolish UNIT. Even if a swarm of stingrays came through while waiting for the Doctor, they had the TARDIS right there. The Doctor in the TARDIS can deal with a few civilization-eating space fish.
    (they were also pretty evil in Fragments....)
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