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    Earth Symbol Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    You got me there.
    Yes, I really do look like (a younger) Daniel. Don't believe me? Look for yourself.

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    Wink Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    Ha!

    Although you're not actually on my hit list anymore, thanks to the hand device advice (ooh! A rhyme!) on the Halloween thread!

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    Chevron Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    It was so sad for Daniel having to destroy the device that could have saved his wife, but it woulldn't have been the same if Teal'c had to stay or died.

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    Default Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    I liked this episode, another one of my faves from season one. An interesting storyline I thought, and our first episode including the Asgard and the Unas

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    Default Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    Why did it have to be Daniel that destroyed the device? The device that could have saved Sha're. Just kick the guy while he's down. Sheesh.

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    Earth Symbol Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    This has been discussed over in the Daniel Appreciation Thread, and it's been concluded that really, no one but Daniel could have destroyed it. Think about it, if Jack or Sam had been the ones to shoot it, Daniel could have gone on blaming Teal'c and the one who shot the device for his wife's death. Daniel had to be willing for the device to be destroyed, or when it was destroyed, it would have also broken his spirit.
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    Default Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    Quote Originally Posted by LMichelle
    Why did it have to be Daniel that destroyed the device? The device that could have saved Sha're. Just kick the guy while he's down. Sheesh.
    It was no one's choice but Daniel's to make. It was a chance for his wife that he was sacraficing. And it was also symbollic--that he was recognizing that he'd have to make concessions to defeat the goa'uld in the end, but not necessarily save Sha're.

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    Default Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    It was an interesting introduction to the Unas and more confirmation to their theory that the mind of the host did survive in tandem with the Goa’uld (brought up in The Enemy Within). Had to laugh at the beginning of the episode when Gairwyn meets them, gives them an appraising look and comments “You’re a little short for gods.”
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    Default Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    Just a question havent seen all the eps in SG-1 but why cant the Asgard just build something like that to free Share? Also you would think that the Asgard would have sensors if Thors Hammor broke and could go repair it. They had sensors like that in Red Sky.

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    Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    The Unas looked like something from ST Voyager
    Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini => three of the world's worst dictators.

    Also failed artist, failed priest, and failed grade-school teacher.

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    Default Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    Think about it, if Jack or Sam had been the ones to shoot it, Daniel could have gone on blaming Teal'c and the one who shot the device for his wife's death. Daniel had to be willing for the device to be destroyed, or when it was destroyed, it would have also broken his spirit.
    I agree with this, but it's also a sign that Daniel's accepting Teal'c as a person and making the sacrifice to save his friend rather than Teal'c having to sacrifice give up his life to save Sha're.

    Had to laugh at the beginning of the episode when Gairwyn meets them, gives them an appraising look and comments “You’re a little short for gods.”
    That bit was class! Another nod to Star Wars???
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    Zat Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis69
    That bit was class! Another nod to Star Wars???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrminarrd
    When I saw this show I wondered why they had to destroy the device. Couldn´t they just have gone back to earth and come back with some drilling equipment and drilled a hole in the wall? Ok, perhaps the walls were to strong or protected but my real point is that they didn´t even try, they just went ahead end wrecked the thing
    Just what I was going to say, until I saw someone had a year ago. This I believe is the first of several unnecessary destructions of potentially greatly helpful technology over the years. Not that they haven't made leaps over the years, but from the viewpoint of seasons 1 and 2 especially it was pretty frustrating.

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    Anyone else catch the rune the woman gave to SG1?

    It was Loki's rune.

    Forshadowing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmartFox
    Just a question havent seen all the eps in SG-1 but why cant the Asgard just build something like that to free Share?
    Presumably they could but relations between Earth and the Asgard were still in their infancy when Sha're died. We haven't had too many Gou'ald possession stories since Season 6 or so simply because it's more or less trivial now for our heroes to remove symbiotes.

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    ^^No just conicendece

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    This episode was really good in my opinion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMichelle
    Why did it have to be Daniel that destroyed the device? The device that could have saved Sha're. Just kick the guy while he's down. Sheesh.
    That really ticks me off, too! Jack could have just walked out of there and done it himself! But NO, the lazy BUM had to hand the staff weapon to DANIEL!! You can see the agony in his eyes (MS is such a wonderful actor!) as he destroys the Hammer... I'm all for a good Danny whumping, but that's just cruel! Zats has a point, but still...
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    Question Re: Thor's Hammer (109)

    The questions I was left with after this ep were:
    FIRST, and SIMPLE SOLUTION:
    Why couldn't SG-1 just leave Teal'c there for a bit, bring back a team, drill a 2inch diameter hole through the wall, pass a tube containing the symbiote through while Teal'c walked through the hammer, then reinsert the symbiote from the other side?

    Or why couldn’t they leave Teal'c there for a while, procure another symbiote, then return & implant it when t'elc is through the hammer?
    Or why not setup a off-world base on that planet, and leave Teal'c in there until they have captured a ton of Goa'uld (at least Sha're & Skaara), and passed them through the hammer?

    Also, why at the end does Jack have only Daniel leave to try the staff-wep from the other side while EVERYONE is inside? Everyone that COULD leave should have, THEN they use the staff. Otherwise they are all risking their lives if it were to collapse the chamber.
    ALSO,
    Since SG1 was visiting that world to meet the Asguard, and also possibly procure powerful weaponry, WHY did they immediately leave? Why didn't they do a survey or ask the natives about possible technology caches around.
    They could have found the alter from the "Thor's Chariot" ep, and fixed the hammer.

    ALSO!
    If the device at the gate only affected Goa'uld & Jaffa (with Goa'uld symbiotes) then one of the system lords would have undoubtedly have sent through a slave or priest through who would have returned to report about the device.
    This would have then been eaisly destroyed by the priest/slave returning with a staff-wep/bomb, or just by the Goa'uld shooting through the gate to destroy it (we've seen staff-wep fire propagate through the gate).

    Other Misc SG questions that have bugged me...
    After having the Prometheus, why don't they use it to return to the "Torment of Tantalus" planet to retrieve the "Meaning of Life" artifact and/or the lost gate (I’m sure the gate would be useful!).

    They've said VERY OFTEN that energy can travel back through a open wormhole (ie backward as well as forward), so why can't the Goa'uld staff-weps &/or Zats be shot through an incoming worm-hole. They ARE energy weapons.. :-/
    On that topic, if radio-waves/radiation/energy can go both ways through a wormhole, why can't they put a ring-device on either end and transfer the energy-stream through both ways?
    And since MANY eps have shown that radio-waves can go both ways, then why can't you just look at the gate and SEE what's on the other side? Radio-waves are in fact just LIGHT waves that are at a higher frequency. (x-rays at a lower frequency). The event-horizon should look like whatever is on the other side, and either be an invisible line between the worlds, or the view would be a rippling view of the other side.

    Eh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJDole
    The questions I was left with after this ep were:
    FIRST, and SIMPLE SOLUTION:
    Why couldn't SG-1 just leave Teal'c there for a bit, bring back a team, drill a 2inch diameter hole through the wall, pass a tube containing the symbiote through while Teal'c walked through the hammer, then reinsert the symbiote from the other side?
    Who's to say that Thor's Hammer doesn't extend all the way around the labyrinth or that there isn't some other kind of forcefield that would prevent exit except through the single portal.

    Or why couldn’t they leave Teal'c there for a while, procure another symbiote, then return & implant it when t'elc is through the hammer?
    Or why not setup a off-world base on that planet, and leave Teal'c in there until they have captured a ton of Goa'uld (at least Sha're & Skaara), and passed them through the hammer?
    Both of these are easier said than done. SG-1 never managed to capture either Sha're or Skaara during the course of their adventures so Teal'c would've been sitting around for a long, long time. That doesn't seem terribly practical considering what an important resource Teal'c is to the team as they explore the galaxy.

    They've said VERY OFTEN that energy can travel back through a open wormhole (ie backward as well as forward), so why can't the Goa'uld staff-weps &/or Zats be shot through an incoming worm-hole. They ARE energy weapons.. :-/
    Not all energy is created equally. The stargate has shown a great deal of selectivity about which kinds of energy can travel both ways. There's no reason to assume that energy weapons would be included.
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