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    Heart Daniel Jackson/Vala Mal Doran Ship/Discussion/Appreciation Thread

    Bored with Jack/Daniel/Thor, and now think I see Daneil/Vala sparkage. Bring on the fic and onscreen innuendo. Anyone else shipping for Daniel/Vala yet?

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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    I think Browder should get Vala.


    I saw some pic with both of them together (must be a photoshop or something) they just look right together.





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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    Can you imagine how complicated this could get? UST between Daniel and Vala, UST between Ben Browder's character and Vala. UST between Daniel and Ben Browder. And that's on top of whatever other Daniel pairing you might have a previous loyalty to.

    If you're someone who doesn't mind a little USTiness when it's well done, this could be wild. The potential just for displaced rivalry is staggering.

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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    im a fan of daniel/sarah. they need at least one good episode. vala and anyone else is fine with me, but it would be kind of weird if browder and vala got together.

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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    Okay, I just watched Prometheus Unbound today and I just have to laugh.

    Those two (Daniel and Vala) just seem so quirky with each other.

    Did you see the way they were fighting? That was hilarious! (Almost made me laugh as much as the Buffy musical which I also watched today)

    They were pulling ears, and hair and what-not lol.

    And Daniel was 'squishing her head'. That was great.

    They're quirky together, and quirky is cool. Can't wait for her to show up again.

    Oh and the part with her dressed as a super-solider and saying how Daniel was attractive and what-not... The look on Daniel's face was priceless lol.
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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    I think there's undeniable chemistry, enough to shine through a slapstick situation. I hope there's the same level of innuendo when Vala returns, even in a "serious" arc.

    My thought is that Daniel gets worked up by people who frustrate him, and her physical strength is a plus in his book. She challenges him, and he respects her abilities. Plus Daniel just looks good when he's sweaty and panting.

    On an even shallower level, if that's possible, I think Daniel looks better with someone with dark hair and/or somewhat exotic features. I never bought the string of blonds that paraded by him.

    Vala might drive Daniel insane, but I think Daniel's at the Schopenhauerian point where boredom/rut needs to be relieved by anxiety. Vala is stimulating on a lot of levels. I think that the audience now knows her well enough to at least buy some flirtation, later.

    I also like the fact that Vala equates to Daniel's age on the show. Daniel is mid-career age with a lot behind him. Daniel is not, and has never been, a post-pubescent young'un. It's nice to see him paired with a woman that reinforces the idea of his character as written.

    Later,
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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    More ship and another 10 million male viewers switch off in droves to something more interesting.
    I really don't need to see a Sex In The City Stargate, thanks.

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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    Are you proposing that 10 million viewers departed after Prometheus Unbound? I think not. That level of innuendo is harmless.

    There are good arguments against ship, but resorting to cheap catch-phrases and hyperbole is not effective. The reason is that it doesn't reflect any thought: just reactionism. Come back with your actual feelings about how innuendo between Daniel and Vala will make the show less interesting.

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    Haven't seen the ep. I just HATE ship stuff of any description. It just BORES me stupid.

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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    I agree a lot of onscreen ship is forced and can damage the show. At the same time, attraction is one of the fundamental human stories. Why should writers limit their options? I bet when it's done right, you don't even notice it's there: ship should always be secondary to the main theme of a show. Stargate isn't about who is dating who. Shipping just rounds things out.

    If you hate Stargate ship, you have a reason to be glad about Vala. She throws a wrench in a few of the traditional fandom ships. Now there's a question of apostasy. Things could get very interesting, indeed. :-)

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    Sorry but please no! I never liked the way the show deals with ship. (Sam and Jack is the most boring romance I have ever seen!). But Daniel/Vala would be the worsest ship they have ever done. If there must be any ship for Daniel than give him Sarah or bring Sha´ree back or do even Daniel/Sam but not Vala! Sorry but I think that she is the worsest female character the Stargate writers have ever created! (Even Anise/Freya don´t annoyed me so much). I hope desperatly that this time the ship will only happen in fanfic!
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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    I love Vala and she can be with ever she want, she is SpacePirate after all although Daniel and Vala are cute


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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    Vala is a great character, with huge potential. Let better writer to pen S9 episodes with her and Daniel and everything will be perfect. David Kemper would be ideal choice

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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    Quote Originally Posted by graculus
    Anyone else shipping for Daniel/Vala yet?

    Only in the realm of fun, games and insane speculation.

    I propose Vala kidnap Daniel and take him to Atlantis. Why? Because he wants to go, and she would enjoy the ride!

    I favor those who say that Vala is going to be Daniel's Maybourne: someone who is totally untrustworthy who may nevertheless help him out on occasiion. She may save his life one of these days. He may be in the uncomfortable position of defending someone who really ought to be in jail. (Notwithstanding that we don't know of any jail that can hold her.)

    Meanwhile, Vala's loopy attraction to Daniel, and Daniel's attendant discomfort are gonna make me laugh. (I can see Sam being amused, too, and trying not to laugh. Nah, she'll laugh. She's gonna razz Daniel about his "fruitcake" girlfriend.)

    I like the "SpacePirate" designation! Vala is crazier than Capt. Jack Sparrow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Margaret
    Only in the realm of fun, games and insane speculation.

    I propose Vala kidnap Daniel and take him to Atlantis. Why? Because he wants to go, and she would enjoy the ride!!
    i like it . maybe Daniel will like it too...

    I like the "SpacePirate" designation! Vala is crazier than Capt. Jack Sparrow!
    yeah! the name just pop to my head and you'r right she's crazier than Jack Sparrow!!! LOL.
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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    I love the idea of Vala as Daniel's Maybourne, but I wouldn't object to flirtation and innuendo, either. I think it's possible to do both.

    As for the fears about the way PU was written, the Stargate writers aren't going to be churning out comedy eps for an entire 5 episode arc (::crosses fingers:: ). If Vala does indeed belong to a band of ragtag survivors, that could fuel a new political storyline.

    On a shallower note, IMHO she looks a lot better with Daniel than Sarah. I think Sarah is a great character: I thought she was terrific as Osiris, and I hope to see her coping with the aftermath in future episodes. I just never saw the chemistry with Daniel. I see a lot more chemistry with Vala.

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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    hmmm I so can't wait till it's on in the states... I heard they weren't love intrests on the ep, and I herd they were... I don't know what to belive. I want to see it badly. And NOW.

    haha BTW valaCB... I beat you to it

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    haha BTW valaCB... I beat you to it
    LOL. i was looking for you... who took Vala's name!!!

    that could fuel a new political storyline
    that could be cool idea.

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    Default Re: Start Shipping for Daniel/Vala

    My friend and I gave ourselves an early viewing for Christmas. Best present either of us got, lol.

    Later,
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    All in all, it should be interesting how the play Ben and Claudia together when both are on the show. These two have amazing chemistry and it isn't just because they were John and Aeryn on Farscape. I saw them at the Farscape con in November and they were awesome together.

    I can't wait to see them on the same screen and see how they play off together as different characters.

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