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    I guess I'm a really shallow person, but I don't really take note who wrote or directed which episode. So I couldn't say. But now that you mention it, it's a really intriguing question, and something I will look out for on my next re-watch. (And I'd love to hear your thoughts on this!)

    I actually can't tell the difference. That's why I was curious if anyone else could. They'll say in the commentaries how "This is a typical Kim Manners shot." Or "Only Ben Edlund would write something like this.", but I never see it. The only change I noticed was when Kripke was told against his will to change the look for season 3. I'm glad they changed it back!

    If one of the boys had to die at the end of S5, do you think Sam would be able to better deal with his losing his brother than Dean would?
    Interesting. Until it actually happened, I would have thought Sam that would have handled Dean's death in a healthy manner...but we soon learned THAT wasn't true, didn't we? Though, I still do think he would handle it better than Dean. I think that Sam still looks at life more logically (even more so now), and Dean is all emotion. Funny, since Dean is always accusing Sam of being the 'girl'!

    Do you think Dean would be able to deal with Bobby's death without spiraling like he did with John's death?

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    The only change I noticed was when Kripke was told against his will to change the look for season 3. I'm glad they changed it back!
    What kind of 'look' were they aiming for? Do you mean the purported 'love interests'?

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    Do you think Dean would be able to deal with Bobby's death without spiraling like he did with John's death?
    That depends when it would happen. With the
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    Apocalypse on hand and Michael on his tail I think Dean would be to busy ATM to go into a nosedive, no matter what happens.
    Otherwise I'm sure he'd be just as broken up about Bobby as he was about John's death. Bobby has become a surrogate father to the boys, and his loss would be very difficult for Dean to bear.

    Do you feel that Dean's being portrayed as the 'brainless jock' or that it's implied that he's more intelligent than he lets on?

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    What kind of 'look' were they aiming for? Do you mean the purported 'love interests'?

    Do you feel that Dean's being portrayed as the 'brainless jock' or that it's implied that he's more intelligent than he lets on?
    I can't remember where I read it, I think in the Supernatural magazine. Kripke was talking about how people had noticed in season 3 how they used more light and the colour palette had warmer tones, but said not to worry because they were going back to their usual look for season 4. I actually HAD noticed that difference. It doesn't scream at you, but it is there.

    The best example of this is the end scene in It's a Terrible Life when Zachariah touched Dean. Until then, you might not have even noticed the colour being 'off' for the whole episode...then you see it shot in it's usual grey-er tone and you go, "Hey! Yeah, that DOES seem more Supernatural-ly." Season 3 was like the pre-Zachariah part of the episode. A bit brighter in colour, with more yellows and less blacks, and a little more 'beauty light' on the boys (like they need it! ). Ok, back to the question:

    I don't think of him as a jock for one, he comes off as 'I was too cool for organised sports'. Brainless? Not really. I don't think Sam thinks of him that way either, despite his surprise when Dean comes up with a reference. I think Sam (and the viewer) sees Dean as less 'intellectual'. Not that he isn't smart, but more that he is more street smart. That he was never that concerned about being book smart because 1) School was secondary to taking care of Sam, John, and hunting, and most of what is learned in school wouldn't help him with that. 2) Again, he was too cool to learn the 'geek' stuff 3) He had 'geek' Sammy around, who was great at that stuff, so let him do it!

    Hindsight is 20/20, but do you think Sam's reasons for following Ruby were understandable/sound, not knowing who she was really working for? And if so, up to what point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crichiel View Post
    I can't remember where I read it, I think in the Supernatural magazine. Kripke was talking about how people had noticed in season 3 how they used more light and the colour palette had warmer tones, but said not to worry because they were going back to their usual look for season 4. I actually HAD noticed that difference. It doesn't scream at you, but it is there.
    Ah, okay, thanks for the explanation. I'll have to look for that during my next re-watch. Which may be coming up very soon, I think I've managed to corrupt convince somebody else to give the show a try.

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    Hindsight is 20/20, but do you think Sam's reasons for following Ruby were understandable/sound, not knowing who she was really working for? And if so, up to what point?
    Actually, I saw Malleus Maleficarum not too long ago, and I think that illustrated very well the difference between Dean and Sam. Where demons are concerned, Dean's world is black or white. Sam is either more open minded or more idealistic (wanting to believe there's a bit of good in everyone) so he's willing to give Ruby the benefit of the doubt. And at first she did position herself as a great asset, with saving Sam from the 'Magnificent Seven' and Dean from the witch, fixing the colt and giving them intel. But I'd say the moment she started talking about him drinking demon blood all his alarms should have gone off. I'm not sure we actually know when he took his first swig. If it was during the time Dean was still in hell it may be more understandable given the state Sam was in then, probably not even caring what happened to him.

    Of the seven deadly sins, Lust came after Dean and Pride (and a few others) went after Sam. Which one do you think would have come after you?

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    Of the seven deadly sins, Lust came after Dean and Pride (and a few others) went after Sam. Which one do you think would have come after you?
    Probably Wrath. I have a pretty wicked temper.

    Do you think Sheriff Whats-Her-Name-Original-Weir was right to kill Pa Bender in The Benders?

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    Do you think Sheriff Whats-Her-Name-Original-Weir was right to kill Pa Bender in The Benders?
    Hell yeah! As Dean said, that was one sick puppy, and I don't think he was fit to keep living in any human community.

    Do you think Sam would have stayed with Madison and given up hunting if there had been a way to reverse the whole werewolf thing?

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    Hell yeah! As Dean said, that was one sick puppy, and I don't think he was fit to keep living in any human community.

    Do you think Sam would have stayed with Madison and given up hunting if there had been a way to reverse the whole werewolf thing?
    I don't think he would have given up hunting. At that point, I think he kind of accepted their need for the hunting life again. Especially since the YED was still around and he was still trying to figure out his visions. And there was his overwhelming concern in season 2 that he was going to turn evil. That alone would have probably kept him out of a long-term relationship, for fear of getting Madison hurt.

    Is there one episode that you could call a favourite? Not a favourite finale or premiere, not a favourite Dean ep or Sam ep, funny ep or serious ep, not a favourite of a particular season, but ONE episode out of the 92 that stands above all others for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crichiel View Post
    Is there one episode that you could call a favourite? Not a favourite finale or premiere, not a favourite Dean ep or Sam ep, funny ep or serious ep, not a favourite of a particular season, but ONE episode out of the 92 that stands above all others for you?
    Actually, there is. It's Folsom Prison Blues since it's the first Spn episode I ever watched. A friend recommended it to me, so I went on YT, and that's the first one I found. I was hooked instantly. And the moment Dean got whumped by the creepy nurse ghost made me a Dean girl forever.

    Would you say that every season so far has been better than the ones before it? And which one is your favorite?

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    Would you say that every season so far has been better than the ones before it? And which one is your favorite?
    I actually wouldn't. Sorry. I think season 3 was amazing, season 4 was outstanding, and I adore season 5 so far....but, season 2 was unbelievable to me. If I had to list 10 favourite episodes, something like 6 or 7 of them would be from that season alone! So, it WOULD be true for me that each season it gets better, but so far nothing has topped season 2.

    Hmmm, how to phrase for a 'yes or no'? Ok, Do you have a favourite Dean-death from Mystery Spot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crichiel View Post
    I actually wouldn't. Sorry. I think season 3 was amazing, season 4 was outstanding, and I adore season 5 so far....but, season 2 was unbelievable to me. If I had to list 10 favourite episodes, something like 6 or 7 of them would be from that season alone! So, it WOULD be true for me that each season it gets better, but so far nothing has topped season 2.

    Hmmm, how to phrase for a 'yes or no'? Ok, Do you have a favourite Dean-death from Mystery Spot?
    I'm torn. I love the electrocution, where his bones shine through just like in a comic. But I also love the scene with the dog - that was so unexpected! And of course the twist of Sammy killing him with the axe in the haunted house... I just can't decide. Each and every one was brilliant in its own right, and I would have loved to see more of them. For example Sam's comment that the waitress is such a bad archer opens up endless possibilities I would have liked to see.

    Okay, no way I can phrase this as "yes or no' - who do you think takes more after their father, Sam or Dean?

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    Okay, no way I can phrase this as "yes or no' - who do you think takes more after their father, Sam or Dean?
    What happened to Salamas? This has turned into a Stars/Crichiel private game!! That's all right though, I'm still having fun!

    In hunting, I would say Dean is more like John. But as the whole person package, absolutely Sam is way more of a John-clone. The passion, the way they are both willing to put a hunt before family. When Dean made the comment about how alike Sam and John were in Jump the Shark, I totally agreed with that.

    Which of the boys do you think is more like their mother (from the little we've seen of her.)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crichiel View Post
    What happened to Salamas? This has turned into a Stars/Crichiel private game!! That's all right though, I'm still having fun!

    In hunting, I would say Dean is more like John. But as the whole person package, absolutely Sam is way more of a John-clone. The passion, the way they are both willing to put a hunt before family. When Dean made the comment about how alike Sam and John were in Jump the Shark, I totally agreed with that.

    Which of the boys do you think is more like their mother (from the little we've seen of her.)?
    I am also still lurking, because this is one of the most interesting threads around!

    Here I'd go for Sam as the one who was a hunter but decides against it, at least until he was more or less forced to go hunting again. There is also the he believes and prays, which (as stated by his brother) was also something their mother did. For more we just don't know Mary good enough.

    Do you think that it is evident, that Kripke knew from the start what he had in mind for the brothers, or are the changes he made during the run big enough that some things from the earlier seasons are wrong now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iolanda View Post
    I am also still lurking, because this is one of the most interesting threads around!
    Glad you decided to join in again!

    Do you think that it is evident, that Kripke knew from the start what he had in mind for the brothers, or are the changes he made during the run big enough that some things from the earlier seasons are wrong now?
    I know for a fact that Kripke made a lot of important decisions while the show was already airing, such as bringing in the angels. That was not planned from the start. But as yet I have not found any major plot holes or inconsistencies. I'm planning an A-Z re-watch soon, though, so I'll look be looking out for anything that doesn't gel based on what I know is to come.

    Would you watch a spin-off of the show that didn't have Sam and Dean in it? And if so, what secondary character would you like it to center around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolanda View Post
    I am also still lurking, because this is one of the most interesting threads around!
    Hi, iolanda! I am so glad you find us entertaining, I find myself rather dull! Didn't mean to make you come out of lurking, but it's so nice to have another voice join in!

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    Would you watch a spin-off of the show that didn't have Sam and Dean in it? And if so, what secondary character would you like it to center around?
    This wouldn't be a 'yes/no' question for me anyhow, it is more complicated than that. It would totally depend on what the show is about, not who was in it. I don't watch spin-offs JUST because it is a spin-off of a show I like. I have written other posts about this in the Stargate threads. Let's see if I can condense them and just hit a couple of my main points.

    I will give a proven creator (Joss Whedon, J.J. Abrams, Brad Wright) and a handful of favourite actors, a little bit more leeway than others when choosing a new show to watch. But for the most part I really pick which shows to watch by how much the premise appeals to me. I've learned not to trust implicitly that because I liked one show, I will like the other.

    Examples: I loved SG-1, liked SGA, have no interest in the whole premise of SGU. I loved Buffy, loved Angel, loved Firefly, but can't get myself to care about the story going on the The Dollhouse. Liked Alias, love Lost, am 'meh' about Fringe. This is true of actors, too. I gave Sanctuary more of a shot than most shows I try, but I just couldn't get into it no matter how much I love Amanda.

    On the other hand, I didn't know anyone involved in Chuck (outside a familiarity with Adam Baldwin), but the idea of the show grabbed my attention and I loved it first time I saw it. I didn't think much of Castle the first couple of episodes I saw, but I gave it a little more time because I like Nathan Fillion so much and I learned to like it. Not love it, but I do enjoy it.

    Hmm. Guess I COULDN'T condense it very well! Sorry, trying to get to the point here which is...If a Supernatural spin-off were announced, it would first of all depend on if Kripke were involved. Then I would want to know which writers were retained. Then I would want to know the premise. THEN I would want to know who the characters were, and THEN I would probably give it a shot (4-6 episodes) to see how well the idea is executed and judge it like I would any new show. If it holds my interest, I'd keep watching. If not, I wouldn't spend my precious little free time watching a show I don't like out of a feeling of loyalty!

    Ok, I'll try and ask a simple one! (bet you thought yours was when you asked it, didn't you starg8fans! )

    Do you think Supernatural ever crosses this line into too melodramatic/soap opera-y?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crichiel View Post
    This wouldn't be a 'yes/no' question for me anyhow, it is more complicated than that.

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    Ok, I'll try and ask a simple one! (bet you thought yours was when you asked it, didn't you starg8fans! )
    Hey, I enjoyed hearing your thoughts. Don't know a lot of the shows you mentioned, but your point was definitely well documented.

    Do you think Supernatural ever crosses this line into too melodramatic/soap opera-y?
    Surprisingly, it doesn't. And I credit the talent of the actors with this. If you were reading about all this heartbreak and saving each other, it would sound like complete drivel. But the way they present it is done with - yes - a lot of emotion, but it feels... can't really find the word for it, but definitely not sappy. Which is what I associate with soap operas, although I'm no judge really since I don't watch them. I guess the closest it ever came to this was when
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    Okay, another open ended one - what would you say are the boys' biggest weaknesses, apart from each other?

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    Okay, another open ended one - what would you say are the boys' biggest weaknesses, apart from each other?
    Dean-Acts before he thinks things through too often.

    Sam-In the past couple of seasons his weakness has become that he looks TOO much at the bigger picture and isn't paying enough attention to the immediate consequences.

    Is there an episode that, if you think about it objectively, isn't a very believable story (or even what you would consider 'good'), but you enjoy it anyway because Jared and Jensen acted above the poor material?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crichiel View Post
    Is there an episode that, if you think about it objectively, isn't a very believable story (or even what you would consider 'good'), but you enjoy it anyway because Jared and Jensen acted above the poor material?
    Well, I'm no standard because I'm an extremely gullible person, and I'll accept just about anything. I guess the one episode that comes to mind here is Croatoan. A demonic virus? I mean, what the heck? It's also hard to portray since it's invisible, but I think our boys did an outstanding job at showing how they dealt with the consequences.

    Which brings me to my next question - do you think Croatoan had the worst (or best? ) cliffhanger of all Spn eps, or is there another you rate higher?

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    Croatoan had a special cliffhanger? *scratches head* Oh, wait, that was the scene with the boys at the river, now I see what you mean. Yes that would have been some wait for the next episode If I hadn't watched it on DVD for the first time.

    But the worst (and with this: best) cliffhanger is the end of S3 for me. You just think that this might be the right time to pull something out of the hat, but no.

    There are a lot of things which are quite unrealistic in SPN, like that the boys never really run out of money, con their way into nearly everything, can park their not very decent car everywhere and not get caught, sometimes very fast changes of daytimes, and so on. Do these points bother you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by starg8fans View Post
    Hey, congrats on passing 2,000 posts! *high fives*
    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by iolanda View Post
    There are a lot of things which are quite unrealistic in SPN, like that the boys never really run out of money, con their way into nearly everything, can park their not very decent car everywhere and not get caught, sometimes very fast changes of daytimes, and so on. Do these points bother you?
    It really doesn't. I have suspension of disbelief like you wouldn't believe. I figure if you are buying the premise of demons, guns with magic bullets, and time travel, you don't quibble about the little details! If you are noting things like where they park, then the story must not be that interesting....and that is almost never the case with Supernatural.

    Do you think Jared is due for a new hairstyle?

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    Do you think Jared is due for a new hairstyle?
    Good Question!

    Imho, Jared is. Not so much Sammy, though because I think that the hair is part of the role but I'd love to see Jared with a total different hairstyle, just for the change of it. I know that he had shorter hair in Gilmore Girls, but the style wasn't that different. I guess he counts on it that the longer hair makes him appear not as tall as he is, because he would definitely appear taller with a buzz cut (see: Chris Heyerdahl).

    And just because I am watching it at the moment: What do you think would have happened, if Dean hadn't made the deal in AHBL, concerning the current storyarc?
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