Atlantis Vs Destiny

[Kailias]

That doesn't really mean anything. Atlantis was more or less stationary. Destiny was out of reach. Atlantis could have been updated with the ATA gene requirement as the technology developed. Really, there was no need for Atlantis to have an ATA gene requirement before the wraith and other threats appeared.


Also i was thinking about it.... I think Destiny may be much faster than a regular hyperdrive. For this reason. A stargate can typically dial to any other Stargate in the galaxy (in the same gate network) without much trouble. Why is it, when they needed something... calcium carbonate, the ship had to fly them to a certain place before dropping out of FTL and allowing for gate usage. Why not just immediately drop from FTL and dial that planet when Rush informed the computer of the problem? I mean Stargates have a pretty long range.

I mean maybe the ship couldn't drop out of FTL until a certain point, and once it did stop it could only stay stopped for 12 hours. But apparently at worst just killing the power, will stop the ship so.... Any theories?

And i suppose if you were intent on sending a ship out further than anything had ever been before... Why wouldn't you equip it with the fastest drive imaginable?

[_Famrir_]

ata gene

[jhkplaya888]

Spoiler:

In ep 4 (darkness) rush said destiny was traveling for like a million years

[SGAFirenity]

That doesn't really mean anything. Atlantis was more or less stationary. Destiny was out of reach. Atlantis could have been updated with the ATA gene requirement as the technology developed. Really, there was no need for Atlantis to have an ATA gene requirement before the wraith and other threats appeared.


Also i was thinking about it.... I think Destiny may be much faster than a regular hyperdrive. For this reason. A stargate can typically dial to any other Stargate in the galaxy (in the same gate network) without much trouble. Why is it, when they needed something... calcium carbonate, the ship had to fly them to a certain place before dropping out of FTL and allowing for gate usage. Why not just immediately drop from FTL and dial that planet when Rush informed the computer of the problem? I mean Stargates have a pretty long range.

I mean maybe the ship couldn't drop out of FTL until a certain point, and once it did stop it could only stay stopped for 12 hours. But apparently at worst just killing the power, will stop the ship so.... Any theories?

And i suppose if you were intent on sending a ship out further than anything had ever been before... Why wouldn't you equip it with the fastest drive imaginable?

I agree with the bolded part. On Earth there was no need for the ATA gene but in Pegasus there was the wraith, a threat to Atlantis and the ancients. So by updating Atlantis with the ATA gene, if the wraith ever got onto Atlantis or tried to use anything ancient, the wraith wouldn't be able to operate it. Whereas on Destiny it was never updated with the ATA gene because there was no need for it. Having the ATA gene doesn't prove anything.

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In my opinion, I think Atlantis is older because the hyperdrive in the Destiny is much more hightech than Atlantis. Plus Destiny's power source is better. I mean Atlantis' ZPM was pratically drained by the time the expedition got there whereas the Destiny still had power when Rush and his team got there. Why would the ancients build a ship with a powerful hyperdrive and power source and then build Atlantis with lesser tech? That doesn't really make sense.

And what about the Stargate differences? The Earth gate is obviously the first gate because that's where the ancients originated. The Atlantis gate is similar to the Earth gate besides the fact that it's blue and has star consellations on it. Then the Destiny gate completely spins while dialing, and uses a handheld device to dial.

So, if Destiny was built before Atlantis than why isn't the Atlantis gate like the Destiny gate? Technology goes forward not backwards. Why would the ancients build a gate like the Destiny gate and then go backwards in technology and build the Atlantis gate similar to the Earth gate. A gate that needs a DHD to dial (without it they can't dial), whereas the Destiny gate uses a handheld device to dial.

Now to me that makes no sense, so right there that must mean that Atlantis came first then they built the Destiny.

[jhkplaya888]

So, if Destiny was built before Atlantis than why isn't the Atlantis gate like the Destiny gate? Technology goes forward not backwards. Why would the ancients build a gate like the Destiny gate and then go backwards in technology and build the Atlantis gate similar to the Earth gate. A gate that needs a DHD to dial (without it they can't dial), whereas the Destiny gate uses a handheld device to dial.

Now to me that makes no sense, so right there that must mean that Atlantis came first then they built the Destiny.

you got it all wrong no offense...but Atlantis's gate is far superior to earths and destinies gates. Destiny's gate is the oldest and junked model. The fact that it spins and has horrible range is evidence of that. And the producers said SGU's gates are the oldest and least advanced. Also you don't need the DHD to dial as in Atlantis's gates they have puddle jumpers that are capable of dialing the gate...

also when you said the hyperdrive is more advanced on deastiny...not even close...ftl is only better in terms of energy...atlantis has a fully functional hyperdrive and a wormhole drive.

[SGAFirenity]

you got it all wrong no offense...but Atlantis's gate is far superior to earths and destinies gates. Destiny's gate is the oldest and junked model. The fact that it spins and has horrible range is evidence of that. And the producers said SGU's gates are the oldest and least advanced. Also you don't need the DHD to dial as in Atlantis's gates they have puddle jumpers that are capable of dialing the gate...

also when you said the hyperdrive is more advanced on deastiny...not even close...ftl is only better in terms of energy...atlantis has a fully functional hyperdrive and a wormhole drive.

Right... ...my bad. Hmm....now I'm not sure about which one is oldest. Now I'm thinking probably the Destiny because as I said in the other post technology moves forward not back. So if thats the case then it makes sense that Destiny is older because it has that crappy gate. Whereas like you said Atlantis' gate is far more superior than both Destiny's and Earth's gate.

[mirdin1992]

Right... ...my bad. Hmm....now I'm not sure about which one is oldest. Now I'm thinking probably the Destiny because as I said in the other post technology moves forward not back. So if thats the case then it makes sense that Destiny is older because it has that crappy gate. Whereas like you said Atlantis' gate is far more superior than both Destiny's and Earth's gate.

Two words: Periodical upgrades.

[_Famrir_]

I agree with the bolded part. On Earth there was no need for the ATA gene but in Pegasus there was the wraith, a threat to Atlantis and the ancients. So by updating Atlantis with the ATA gene, if the wraith ever got onto Atlantis or tried to use anything ancient, the wraith wouldn't be able to operate it. Whereas on Destiny it was never updated with the ATA gene because there was no need for it. Having the ATA gene doesn't prove anything.

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In my opinion, I think Atlantis is older because the hyperdrive in the Destiny is much more hightech than Atlantis. Plus Destiny's power source is better. I mean Atlantis' ZPM was pratically drained by the time the expedition got there whereas the Destiny still had power when Rush and his team got there. Why would the ancients build a ship with a powerful hyperdrive and power source and then build Atlantis with lesser tech? That doesn't really make sense.

And what about the Stargate differences? The Earth gate is obviously the first gate because that's where the ancients originated. The Atlantis gate is similar to the Earth gate besides the fact that it's blue and has star consellations on it. Then the Destiny gate completely spins while dialing, and uses a handheld device to dial.

So, if Destiny was built before Atlantis than why isn't the Atlantis gate like the Destiny gate? Technology goes forward not backwards. Why would the ancients build a gate like the Destiny gate and then go backwards in technology and build the Atlantis gate similar to the Earth gate. A gate that needs a DHD to dial (without it they can't dial), whereas the Destiny gate uses a handheld device to dial.

Now to me that makes no sense, so right there that must mean that Atlantis came first then they built the Destiny.

Rush said hte destiny PREDATES ata gene technology which means even if it did need it the technology wasnt available thus the destiny is older than Atlantis because atlantis uses the ATA gene

[mirdin1992]

Rush said hte destiny PREDATES ata gene technology which means even if it did need it the technology wasnt available thus the destiny is older than Atlantis because atlantis uses the ATA gene

that makes no sense comparing the Destiny to Atlantis on the bases one is ATA encoded and the other not is a baseless fact when one was abandoned morre than a million years ago and the other 10.000 years ago and had people adding and changing thing. Do you really think a city would stay the same for that long even if there were no technological progress(which clearly existed) the style and architecture and some other stuff change a lot, just look at us and what we make now and compare to a 100, 50, even 10 years ago and point the differences.

[Exiled Master]

The Destiny. Which hasn't been in Hyperspace, it's been in FTL. Which was stated in the first episode.

And, Rush said at least hundreds of thousands. But we know that they sent off the Destiny before they went to Atlantis, as it was the prime of their civilisation. Before they fled the Plague.

Therefor, we know the Destiny is older.

In a fight, Altantis would win though. Just to throw that randomly in there

Heck, I'm pretty sure you could just throw atlantis at the destiny and the city would still be able to fly.

[corey2002]

destiny is older
you need the ATA gene for atlantis, which is a security upgrade
and

Spoiler:

there is the "1.0" version of the ancient head sucker thing/ tao of rodney ascension device

also the gate on destiny is steampunk

[TrueLordOfNetu]

The Destiny is clearly older. On the original point of time spent in FTL, the Destiny has outdone Atlantis simply as it's FTL drive is different from a Hyperdrive and presumably designed for the purpose of near constant use. Although it hasn't been stated in the show, it makes sense that it travels slower than most hyperdrive driven ships and uses less power as there is no need for the large initial burst used to rip open a window into subspace. Also when the Destiny's power reserves run low it simply drops out and

Spoiler:

flies through a star

to recharge.

[Dragon_Heart]

Arguably the Destiny's weapons, in my opinion, are much less efficient and powerful than drones.
Thousands/millions of years makes sense (to the clinically sane) that the weapons and shields would be more advanced and efficient.

Destiny though, in my opinion, is much better equipped to be in a prolonged battle.

Destiny's amount of weapons would provide suffice fire to eventually take down atlantis's shield, but then again the drones could pass straight through the destiny's shielding and kill it.

We cant now for sure.

[Alan Wake]

Arguably the Destiny's weapons, in my opinion, are much less efficient and powerful than drones.
Thousands/millions of years makes sense (to the clinically sane) that the weapons and shields would be more advanced and efficient.

Destiny though, in my opinion, is much better equipped to be in a prolonged battle.

Destiny's amount of weapons would provide suffice fire to eventually take down atlantis's shield, but then again the drones could pass straight through the destiny's shielding and kill it.

We cant now for sure.

That my friend, is up for a debate.

Discounting the last episode of Atlantis, the Shields on the city do not drain/weaken because of fire. The shields stay up relative to the power the city has.

[The Swarm]

But Destiny has great shields to...not to mention that the constant barrage of fire from Destiny's numerous guns will eventualy deplete Atlantis shields.