What did you guys think of "The Scene"

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

you do know I have a degree in psychology right? didn't say it was personal chitchat....

Well not being psychic so no.

[12OzMouse]

You guys and girls do realize that this is a fictional television program that is based on 0% fact. The stargates really don't exist and there is really no Stargate command. These people who act in this show only exist for our entertainment, and to even remotely compare them to actual military personal is wrong, unless it is for your entertainment. I guess considering how long this thread has endured, it must be pretty entertaining!

Sometimes I think a reality check is in order. SGU is going to be different from the rest of the franchise. The writers and producers have openly said so. There are going to be adult themes and the "the scene" I'm afraid is only going to be the tip of the iceberg.

I like the direction the show is going. I'm glad they included the scene, because the rest of the show is proceeding at a snails pace. Shoot, in 4 more episodes they are going to take a 5 month break! Most any other show would be canceled.

Sorry, didn't mean to interrupt!

[GateGipsy]

12ozMouse - LOL! Yes indeed of course we do But it is so much fun to argue these points. Goodness knows how much time I've spent nit picking in the SG fandom over the years. It is what's so great about discussing the show with other fans. Especially working out how something might happen in order for it to fit within both the SG verse and our own. Like how Apophis managed to go back out through the stargate in the pilot episode of SG1 when we didn't see him use any portable dialling mechanism or unwrap the closed off control room and start up the computer.

[12OzMouse]

I know, it was all in fun! Although I have to say that in this case, the arguments are more interesting that the actual footage in question!

[Paradoxum]

I hated this sex scene, because I recently got my little 12 year old brother hooked on stargate, we watched SG-1, Atlantis all the way through in a couple months and he was excited to begin watching Universe, I had no idea it would have such graphic scenes like that and was really disappointed that they felt they had to resort to this kind of stuff to pull in ratings. who knows maybe 10 years from now they'll remake the first 2 episodes like they did with children of the gods and cut out the sex scene (well in CoTG it was just nudity but you know what I mean)

[Mongoletsi]

I hated this sex scene, because I recently got my little 12 year old brother hooked on stargate, we watched SG-1, Atlantis all the way through in a couple months and he was excited to begin watching Universe, I had no idea it would have such graphic scenes like that and was really disappointed that they felt they had to resort to this kind of stuff to pull in ratings. who knows maybe 10 years from now they'll remake the first 2 episodes like they did with children of the gods and cut out the sex scene (well in CoTG it was just nudity but you know what I mean)

1. It's rated PG / PG13 generally. Your parents are at fault.
2. I bet he wasn't disappointed at seeing a (vague) hint of flesh.
3. "Resort to"? Erm. Sex happens. In that situation I'd be getting all I could. It's realistic.

[apostrophe]

Studio Executive: "Well BSG had sex scenes, so SG:U must have them too".

It did feel very "stuck in" there. Like some studio executive had walked onto the set one day and said "we need a sex scene to help ratings, do it now" and then by the next day had forgotten all about it.

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Yeah, I agree. A lot of the show is like that (so far). Way too much character crap thrown in like space filler. Too many characters thrown in at once. Maybe this is Karma because I always liked the so-called techno-babble when it is credibly worked out (not so much the case here though). To the sci-fi tech fan all the emoting and back stories is so much "character-babble" and quickly becomes tedious if it's not mixed in with some witty repartee' or at least comes in small doses.

I've got nothing against sex but I found the scene to be of distracting intensity which didn't help amid all the other confusing character jumble. If nothing else, it establishes that the female military person has rather nice legs as opposed to discovering other aspects of her being desirable. But that's unnecessary, since we get to see her legs in a following episode as well as several scenes quickly establishing at least a couple of her other, um, strengths.

I'm starting to learn to reprogram DVD's so I edited it down to strong innuendo and it works much better. I cut to the point where John Boy (Scott?) is tucking his shirt in on the way out. The lusty look she gives is still priceless. That's all I need to know. Nice. Interesting. Happy for them but now it's easy to move on with the overall story (such as it is).

I think the "coitus interruptus" aspect of the uncut scene was supposed to be humorous too but, to me, it wasn't. It just added a mild sense of unfulfillment and dissatisfaction due to another layer of disruption on top of the disruptive effect of the overly prolonged and too detailed portrayal to begin with. I don't watch SG for the sex. If I want to see it done well and scenes taken to proper completion by beautiful people, I would prefer to watch actual porn of my own choosing.

The other problem is that I have gotten some older relatives interested in sci-fi. Sitting down to watch in that social setting, when you hit a scene like that, it can get a little awkward. Now, there will probably always some people who have Puritanical convictions about sex, but there is also the fact that, ultimately, sex is primarily the domain of the young. Things tend to get more difficult the older you get, past a certain age. If things are too explicit and prolonged it becomes too much of a reminder about what has been lost along with one's lost youth. It therefore, in such a mixed setting of viewers, what was intended to be titillating/amusing/engaging, instead, becomes major buzz-kill and makes everyone in the room squirm uncomfortably.

Good innuendo is harder to craft but it avoids all that and makes it easier for the widest possible (adult) audience to identify with the characters intimate personal interaction on some level without actually being provoked into reacting to it or breaking one's attention to try to figure out how one is supposed to react to it..

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[Snowman37]

Well, that was the first romance scene we've seen in a while in stargate. Personally, I think it was next to unnessecary and overly graphic and the grunting was, well over the top. They didn't actually have to be doing it, it would be the same effect if they were kissing, and then we wouldn't have to put up with the moaning and grunting. So what did you guys think of it.

Sex is not romance, this scene was childish at best. I fast forwarded over it, so I can't comment on the details. I can only say that it shouldn't have been there. Imagine a mom watching that with her ten-year-old son after having finished with Atlantis. Do you think they'd be finishing the episode? No... the mom would have changed the channel. By including graphic scenery, the show looses a large chunk of it's audience: kids.

[Adrian_Jackson]

Sex is not romance, this scene was childish at best. I fast forwarded over it, so I can't comment on the details. I can only say that it shouldn't have been there. Imagine a mom watching that with her ten-year-old son after having finished with Atlantis. Do you think they'd be finishing the episode? No... the mom would have changed the channel. By including graphic scenery, the show looses a large chunk of it's audience: kids.

Oh yeah? Well maybe it's not FOR kids! Maybe this dumb ass mom in your scenario should have done some research before stupidly showing her child something she knew nothing about. There are hints throughout the episode BEFORE that scene indicating that this is a grown-up show dealing with adult situations and characters with ulterior motives. It's different from a get go. There's nothing shocking about that scene.

[Egle01]

Hello. It's this thread again. Oh the double standards and... double standards.