Page 33 of 33 FirstFirst ... 2330313233
Results 641 to 657 of 657
  1. #641
    First Lieutenant Chaka-Z0's Avatar
    Member Since
    Apr 2018
    Location
    P3X-888
    Posts
    802

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    Haven't seen S08 finale in a while. Love all the differences in the ''messed-up'' timeline:

    • I can't take Apophis seriously with this beard, makes me laugh every time.
    • Same goes for Major Davis, his mustache is glorious.
    • Jack' sarcasm in response to Sam & Daniel trying to convince him to join the team is just too funny.
    • Daniel dies again, never gets old.
    • Lemon chicken is Rodney's favorite meal.


    I think Moebius time travel episodes are quite easy to follow, but maybe I'm just spoiled after seeing countless complicated time-travel movies. Overall one of my fav seasons finale.

  2. #642
    Probie
    Member Since
    Apr 2019
    Posts
    10

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    A few plot holes:

    a) on 3rd timeline, they expect me to believe that a self glowing light like a zpm would traverse 3000 years (especially the last century with all the pillage) without anyone trying to get it, should it be just for reading at night? And that a camera obviously recognizable in the 50s too? I mean, we are assuming that was all in Katrine's posession, given the 1st episode start. She was really not curious.

    b) the 1st timeship survived 3000 years of the 2nd timeline, ok. So when the dorky sg1 goes back, there is 2 timeship there in the 3rd timeline- one presumably under goul'd surveilance, the other ultimately still usable. Now, they want us to believe the dorky sg1 and old 1st Daniel will not go back to the future (at least another planet or in some non-clashing time to avoid contanimation) to live a secure comfortable life?

    c) and since there are 2 timeships which survived 3000 years on the 3rd timeline, why didn't the tape indicated where these are along with the zpm?

    I didn't like these 2 episodes, really.

  3. #643
    Captain Xaeden's Avatar
    Member Since
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    1,363

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    Quote Originally Posted by donald85 View Post
    a) on 3rd timeline, they expect me to believe that a self glowing light like a zpm would traverse 3000 years (especially the last century with all the pillage) without anyone trying to get it, should it be just for reading at night? And that a camera obviously recognizable in the 50s too? I mean, we are assuming that was all in Katrine's posession, given the 1st episode start. She was really not curious.
    The ZPM doesn't glow unless it's plugged in, and neither it nor the camera were buried at a site Catherine and her father were at. Daniel placed it in a tomb at Giza that, in the original timeline (and apparently also in the subsequent ones), was not uncovered until 2005...

    JACKSON: Well, I know a way we can get the Z.P.M. back to our time even if we don't. About a month before we left, there was an archaeological dig that uncovered a first dynasty tomb near Giza. All we have to do is bury the Z.P.M. in that tomb, let them find it, and maybe our future selves won't have to take on this mission!

    Catherine's estate put them on the track to find the ZPM because it contained a drawing of a ZPM that was copied from a destroyed Ancient Egyptian wall painting, but in no timeline did her boxes ever contain the ZPM or camera.

    b) the 1st timeship survived 3000 years of the 2nd timeline, ok. So when the dorky sg1 goes back, there is 2 timeship there in the 3rd timeline- one presumably under goul'd surveilance, the other ultimately still usable. Now, they want us to believe the dorky sg1 and old 1st Daniel will not go back to the future (at least another planet or in some non-clashing time to avoid contanimation) to live a secure comfortable life?
    At the end of the last scene in Ancient Egypt, Jack and Sam disappear from view by laying down after their kiss. Sparks then fly around the time device and Carter utters, "I can fix that."

    We actually have no idea what occurred after that. It's possible something happened to the first jumper this time around (the changes they made could have caused Ra to destroy it while leaving, just like the changes the first Sg-1 made caused him to take the gate). So if Carter couldn't fix the second one they might have been stuck in Ancient Egypt or she may have fixed it and they might indeed have taken it (or the first one). No time travel jumper has been seen since then, so their fates are up in the air.

    All we know is that something must have gone wrong as both sets of Sg-1 intended to go back to the future when their missions were complete. For example, maybe they did travel back, but they ended up arriving a few years later, we just never got to see that because the show didn't last long enough (it took them 5 years to return to their android counterparts from "Tin Man").

    c) and since there are 2 timeships which survived 3000 years on the 3rd timeline, why didn't the tape indicated where these are along with the zpm?
    The ZPM was buried with the tape by the first Sg-1 when the plan was, not to leave the jumper to be found by the future, but to wait until the rebellion started and then recover the jumper so they could return to their own time. This also means it could not have contained any information about the location of the second jumper unless the second group recovered it and added their own recording. However, since they know the first jumper was successfully found near the tomb that the ZPM and tape were buried in, they could have tried to move the second jumper there. By leaving it where it was and updating the tape, there's no guarantee that it wouldn't be found earlier in history, so relocating it would have been the best thing to do if they couldn't get the time device working again.

    Again, though, what exactly the second group did with their lives and the jumper is intentionally left up in the air.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nevi View Post
    (as a proof for that I think of medallion that Daniel was given at the funeral, isn't he suppose to have it already?)
    At the end of the movie, Daniel handed the medallion to Jack and told him to give it back to Catherine. I'm not aware of it ever being said that Catherine gave it back to him on the TV show, or of the TV show continuity stating that Daniel kept it instead of returning it like in the movie.
    Last edited by Xaeden; April 14th, 2019 at 03:22 PM.

  4. #644
    Major
    Member Since
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Mapleleaf
    Posts
    2,076

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    In Torment of Tantalus, Catherine has the medallion, which she states she never takes off. I don't think she gave it back to Daniel until she died.

    Seaboe
    If you're going to allow yourself to be offended by a cat, you might as well just pack it in -- Steven Brust

  5. #645
    Colonel P-90_177's Avatar
    Member Since
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Traveling through Time and Space
    Posts
    7,293

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    The only other time you see it is in Full Circle when Daniel is trying to explain to Jack what the Eye of Ra looks like, but with him being ascended it could have just as easily been something he conjurered up.
    Please do me a huge favour and help me be with the love of my life.

  6. #646
    Colonel Elite Anubis Guard's Avatar
    Member Since
    Oct 2004
    Location
    England
    Posts
    6,494

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    Quote Originally Posted by P-90_177 View Post
    The only other time you see it is in Full Circle when Daniel is trying to explain to Jack what the Eye of Ra looks like, but with him being ascended it could have just as easily been something he conjurered up.
    I always imagined that to be the case. I never thought it was the real one.

    Stargate Destiny - Coming Again Soon

  7. #647
    Air Force Chief of Staff Falcon Horus's Avatar
    Member Since
    May 2004
    Location
    Atlantis
    Posts
    35,401

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    And that brings me to the end of season 8, and it ends with an episode I have little issues with. It's a fine ending.

    Okay, maybe Michael's wig bugs me a little as it is sometimes so shiny and well, gives it that fake look wigs tend to have sometimes.

    Anywho... alternate SG-1 has to set the record straight and mayhem ensues.

    Apophis is back. Kawalsky is back.
    Which is what makes this episode so much more fun since it has all these fun little tidbits which go back to the beginning, to Children of the Gods.

    There's plenty of explosions, a fairly good story, some saving the world going around and well... there's that one thing in the jumper I'd rather not talk about. Will just ignore that bit. So yeah, there's two things that bug me, I guess.

    How would you rate SG-1's "Moebius, Part 2"?

    Excellent
    -- very enjoyable.
    Good
    Fair
    Poor
    Terrible

    ----------

    That's it for season 8. Onwards to season 9 and watch this DVD set for the first time ever which also means it will be like watching them for the first time again cause that's what it basically will be like as I've only ever saw them on "tv" when they aired.

    ----------

    3-episode quiz: Citizen Joe, Moebius I & Moebius II

    Jigsaw puzzle: Moebius, part II

    And because it's the end of the season, here's the End of Season poll: Season 8 of Stargate SG-1
    Last edited by Falcon Horus; July 11th, 2020 at 02:06 PM. Reason: Fixed the jigsaw link...
    Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
    Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 9 of SG-1
    First time watching Star Trek: The Adventures of Captain Kirk and his Trusted Sidekick, Mr. Spock

  8. #648
    Second Lieutenant Who Knows's Avatar
    Member Since
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    407

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    I think you have got the wrong jigsaw, this is Moebius part 1 in Moebiuus part 2.

    Found part 2 in the rewatch thread & got 11:48

  9. #649
    The Monitor jelgate's Avatar
    Member Since
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Preparing for Crisis
    Posts
    37,071

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    I really hate the ending to this episode. Its so confusing it took me 4 times watching it to understand it. It needs to be fleshed out. I think they should of gotten to ancient Egypt earlier instead of the unnecessary time on alternate Chulak. Their is such a missed opportunity to explore the origins of the series. Which seems to be S8's motto. I give it a fair with a perfect quiz score. No puzzle since apparently FH never made one
    Quote Originally Posted by aretood2 View Post
    Jelgate is right

  10. #650
    Air Force Chief of Staff Falcon Horus's Avatar
    Member Since
    May 2004
    Location
    Atlantis
    Posts
    35,401

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    Quote Originally Posted by Who Knows View Post
    I think you have got the wrong jigsaw, this is Moebius part 1 in Moebiuus part 2.
    Quote Originally Posted by jelgate View Post
    No puzzle since apparently FH never made one
    Link is fixed.
    Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
    Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 9 of SG-1
    First time watching Star Trek: The Adventures of Captain Kirk and his Trusted Sidekick, Mr. Spock

  11. #651
    The Monitor jelgate's Avatar
    Member Since
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Preparing for Crisis
    Posts
    37,071

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    6:56
    Quote Originally Posted by aretood2 View Post
    Jelgate is right

  12. #652
    Air Force Chief of Staff Falcon Horus's Avatar
    Member Since
    May 2004
    Location
    Atlantis
    Posts
    35,401

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    Finishing the season with a solid 7:23.
    Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
    Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 9 of SG-1
    First time watching Star Trek: The Adventures of Captain Kirk and his Trusted Sidekick, Mr. Spock

  13. #653
    Chief Master Sergeant
    Member Since
    Jul 2020
    Posts
    129

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    This episode was funny, but I would rather to have threads as the last episode but never mind. Sam was really funny but I don't get it why she was so weird. I think she would have gone to army and been Carter thay we know.
    Pity that we didn't see so much of Teal'c but on contrary I was pleased to see Hammond, Mckay,Major Davis or Kawalsky.
    As a shipper I liked the scenes in the ship, it was cute, but it was again just alternate timeline.
    I already miss the old SG1.

  14. #654
    Chief Master Sergeant
    Member Since
    Jul 2020
    Posts
    129

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    I have one question for you guys. When the scene with fishing happened after Moebius 2 part, does it mean that the same scene didn't happen after Threads episode? The lines were same (except of fish of course). It woudn't make sense to say the same thing two times, especially Sam's "Can't believe we didn't do this years ago." If they would have done it after Threads then she wouldn't have said it in Moebius 2.

  15. #655
    Chief Master Sergeant
    Member Since
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    130

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    I think it's supposed to be the same scene, except changed because despite what they tried to do, there were little changes in the universe.

  16. #656
    Chief Master Sergeant
    Member Since
    Jul 2020
    Posts
    129

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    But then were we could fit that scene when we are talking about timeline? It was like that
    Threads-scene-Moebius where SG1 died
    "New" timeline Threads-(then they obviously didn't meet)-Moebius that never happened-scene (because they mentioned the SG1 record )

  17. #657
    Captain Xaeden's Avatar
    Member Since
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    1,363

    Default Re: Moebius, Part 2 (820)

    It's possible that the tape was found before they went on their fishing trip at the end of "Threads." So in the first timeline, they went on their fishing trip, then returned to the SGC where Jackson learns about Catherine's death, leading to him finding the drawing of the ZPM and suggesting they time travel back to Ancient Egypt to recover it. In the third timeline, they may have still been in the SGC after Jackson descends, but before they went fishing when the discovery of the ZPM and tape was brought there.

    However, it's also possible that the timing of the fishing trip changed in the third timeline. That's the whole crux of that line about the fish; maybe Sg-1 repeated their past adventures and the only discernible change is that the fish are gone from that pond, or maybe other things changed as well, like the date and time that they decided to finally go fishing.

Page 33 of 33 FirstFirst ... 2330313233

Similar Threads

  1. Lost City, Part 2 (722)
    By GateWorld in forum SG-1 Season 7
    Replies: 321
    Last Post: September 9th, 2020, 09:53 PM
  2. Evolution, Part 2 (712)
    By GateWorld in forum SG-1 Season 7
    Replies: 113
    Last Post: September 1st, 2020, 08:39 AM
  3. Evolution, Part 1 (711)
    By GateWorld in forum SG-1 Season 7
    Replies: 79
    Last Post: September 1st, 2020, 08:25 AM
  4. Redemption, Part 1 (601)
    By GateWorld in forum SG-1 Season 6
    Replies: 77
    Last Post: October 28th, 2018, 09:38 AM
  5. Replies: 123
    Last Post: September 20th, 2004, 10:00 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •