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    Default Re: Reckoning, Part 2 (817)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nurgle
    Ba'al was great in this ep (but then, he always is). He always had more depth than the other snakes, but there was something about the was he wished Sam/Jacob/Selmack luck which seemed pretty sincere.

    His exit was pretty funky too.
    Ba'al is definitely more human than most of the other goa'uld. I think it is part of the effort of TPTB in recent seasons to soften the goa'uld so they can have more interactions with SG-1.

    As for him being sincere, that's to be expected since his life is also on the line.
    I just love shows about wormholes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skydiver
    let's see if i can recall the planets
    i can't find the list i made
    The best would be if someone had screen captures of each one and the ep it came from next to it.

    Anyone up to it?!

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    Well, I've watched the episode 4 times now and i think i love it more and more each time. Here's a little summary.

    Jack briefs Sam and Jacob on the fact that Baal has disclosed that he's working for Anubis and he wants them to destroy the ancient weapon. Sam and jacob agree to go to the planet as they need to find the weapon to make sure they actually destroy it. They find it and after deciphering the ancient language they unlock the door and Jacob discovers that the technology maybe used to destroy the replicators as its similar to the disrupter technology Jack built. But Sam points out that in order for it to work they would have to dial all gates simultaneously so the replicators cant adapt. Jacob doesn't know how to do this, but Sam knows someone who does...

    Meanwhile...

    Although Replicater has the knowledge she wanted from Daniel about the weapon she is aware that there is a great deal of use in all of the ancient knowledge he possesses. He argues that he doesn't remember anything and would never help her but she shows him the end of 'Full Circle' when he was about to stop Anubis and Oma pulled him out. He says he will fight her all the way, even though she argues that she cares for him and earth becuase she shares Sam's memories. However...

    The repilcators are already infiltrating the SGC and locked out the computer system. Jack orders a full evacuation of the SGC and orders a lockdown of the base once everyone's clear.

    Sam, JAcob and Baal are working on calibrating the weapon to work against the replicators and Baal has shown Sam how to rig the gates to all be dialled at once so that the signal to destroy the replicators will be transmitted. However, at this point his fleet is being attacked - a fleet of replicators are apporaching the planet.

    Replicarter is getting giddy with the amount of info she's getting from Daniel's mind. He questions if it's too much for her, but she tells him that she's sharing it with her 'bretheren' (or flunkies). However, he tells her, its not just about the info, its about understanding it and she never will cos she's a machine. He then reveals that he knows the replicators are invading earth and she realises hes in her mind. She tries to stop him, but he grabs her arm and informs her that they're in 'Daniel's world' now.

    Jack and Colonel Reynolds are still in the SGC after they find out Siler and five others are still trapped with no way out. They make their way to them and get them out, and succeed but the replicators are closing in on them. They head towards the gateroom in an attempt to dial out, and Jack orders Walter (on the surface) to tell Hammond to blow the nuke asap.

    jacob, Baal and Sam are still working on the weapon when a replicator ship lands. Baal has to leave because his ships are losing the battle, even though Teal'c has ordered the rebel Jaffa to fire on the replicator ships too. And as a result they are being defeated as well.

    Just then, Daniel's eyes open and he announces that he's got Replicarter. She looks at him in horror as he controls the replicators and they all freeze. All the ships stop, Jacob has time to finish calibrating the weapon and Jack and Reynolds note its odd but continue blasting away.

    But Daniel's having trouble controlling all of them, and he looses control, but its too late for the replicators and Jacob starts activating the weapon and all of the gates begin dialling simultaneously. Replicarter takes back control and brings Daniel back to reality and frees him from his restraints. He moves forward with uncertainty and she morphs her arm into a sword and stabs him through the chest.

    Meanwhile all gates are activating and we see all of the gates activating and all of the replicators turning to dust. Daniel's eyes close and blood drips from his mouth as Replicarters ship is destroyed. The replicators are gone!

    Sam congratulates Jacob on getting the weapon up and running, but he doesn't look too good and he doesn't know why.

    We're now on Baal's ship as he orders his fleet to take the rebel jaffa and the city. Teal'c appears on the screen and tells Baal to surrender as he's surrounded and Bra'tac and some rebel jaffa take out his kull warriors and attempt to kill him but he beams out before they can.

    Back at the SGC, Sam tells Jack that although Baal's still alive jaffa are flocking to the battle and Teal'c got his turning point, and with the weapons Earth has provided they are actually turning the tide against the kull warriors. 'Viva la revolution!' replies Jack. They then begin to speculate why the replicators stopped, and Sam suggests that it may have been Daniel, but if he was on a replicator ship then we won't have survived. Jack says that they don't know anything and stops the conversation there.

    THE END.

    Amazing episode! By far the best this season. It was great because every character was doing something. It didn't feel wrong that Jack was at the SGC as you couldn't see him doing anything else. Sam was techno girl, Teal'c had his cause, Daniel was kinda all ancient and powerful and Jack was protecting the SGC. It was funny clever and for Daniel especially shows a good lead into 'Threads', though it does work for Sam and Jack as well, when they said 'froze' together you sensed her realisation that Jack knows her better than anyone.

    God it was just amazing and it wasn't all heavily serious.

    Cliff Simon was right when he said these were good Baal episodes and it was great when he was all 'I am a God, I am all powerful' and then he screwed up the device' and when he wished them good luck and Jacob commented that it was just creepy.

    Siler was classic, and I loved it when Jack said that he expected to be put in Siler's will for saving him and he told him that he was already in his will 'That's just creepy!'

    Daniel arguing with replicarter was good and witty as was Jack in general.

    Just a couple of nit picky things:

    In the words of Jack 'reusing props are we?' - didn't the ancient device look awfully like the time loop device from 'Window of Oportunity'?

    And the other thing was I wasn't sure that Baal could rig the device to dial all gates (e.g. Atlantis or any other 8 chevron address, i.e. Asguard planets) though I don't care as it means the replicators are gone.

    It was also nice to see the planets they showed being dialled in. Obviously they were using old ones but it was nice to remember previous episodes and recognise which episodes the gates were being used from.

    So to finish, loved it, loved it, 11/10. Don't know how they can cap it off and you could definitely see how Reckoning could have been a season finale. They really outdid themselves!

    Think I'm done.

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    Awesome episode. It's easily one of the best episode of season 8.

    I can't wait until the next episode to see how they resolve Daniel's situation (got to love how him tricked RepliCarter).

    Now, not I am not trying to be picky here but I am just wondering if this is indeed the last of the Replicators. Does Ba'al's program has the ability to overide stargates that were already in use (and you got to assume that they are being used by the replicators to continue expanding). With RepliCarter out of the way, the rest of the replicators (if any survived at all) should not be as menacing but I guess RepliCarter could have uploaded her consciousness to teh replicator collective...
    I just love shows about wormholes!

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    I tried translating the ancient text on the wall. But all I got was jibberish.

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    SOoit seems the WoO time machine was a standard console. Dammit it'd be so cool it every one was huningthis massive uberweapon and turned out to be nothing more than a time looper!

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    Default Re: Reckoning, Part 2 (817)

    What else can I say about this episode?
    It was superb.....action, suspense, humour and a few twists thrown in for good measure. I'm in two minds about the demise of the replicators. They have been in some of the best SG1 eps ever, but I will agree that maybe its best to finish them now before they become boring. But I'll miss them (Of course - are they really all gone?)
    Poor Daniel....... how many times now has he - died, been at death's door or (and this always makes me smile) been shot with a zat? Am looking forward to Threads and avoiding spoilers at all costs. When the Replicator ship disintigrated - did anyone else notice Daniel being beamed away or was I seeing things?
    Yep Baal is now my favourite Goa'uld, you know he's mean as hell and yet he's still .... nice!!
    Roll on next Tuesday and please let it be goooood

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    If Daniel wasn't beamed away, his little tiny human body would be floating in that mass of Replicator blocks, so I'm thinking he WAS taken somehow. Of course it was probably Oma, but who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skydiver
    let's see if i can recall the planets
    t'kara
    juna
    chulak
    past and present (the boxes)
    prisoners (the vine covered blocks)
    fiad....the one that was in danie's dream, the pink planet
    one as yet unidentified
    sgc
    i might have them a bit out of order, i can't find the list i made
    There was one that cracked me. Probably juna or chulak.

    Where all the Jaffa in the old snakehead helmets looked startled when the gate opened.

    I could imagine them saying...

    "whoa, what's going on - we're still in season 1 here."

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    Yes! I waited a whole week for "Reckoning: Part 2". Made my day on Wednesday so much better.

    Things I Liked:
    1. Ba'al and Sam and Jacob. WOW! Tau'ri, Goa'uld, and Tok'ra working together - amazing!
    2. The SGC being overrun. Something we haven't had for a long time and I liked it.
    3. Jack going back for Siler. So awesome!
    4. The weapon when released was so cool. I liked it!
    5. Frozen replicators was like, great!
    6. When every single Stargate activated at the same time, and then every single Replicator being turned to dust. AWESOME!!
    7. The ending was nice. The whole "we don't know what happened to Daniel" thing I liked.
    8. Daniel's strong mind which was strong enough to stop all Replicators.

    Things I Didn't Like:
    1. DANIEL! NOOOO!!! I knew when Replicarter gave him that look it would happen.
    2. Ba'al was being too not-Goa'uld like with the helping and the working with the Tok'ra.
    3. Ba'al disappearing at then end with the beaming away thing. I hate that! So many bad guys save their asses by doing that, its so old now!

    Good Quotes/Moments:
    1. Anytime with Ba'al, Jacob, and Sam.
    2. Anytime at the SGC when the Replicators attacked.
    3. Daniel/Replicarter when he controlled her and what resumed from that.
    4. All Stargates activating! I liked that so much! I love when they show the Stargate....I mean, it is Stargate: SG1!

    So my rating for "Reckoning: Part 2?" 10/10 just as I gave to "The Seige: Part 2" because I felt they worked so perfect and somehow, two perfect episodes aired just one day apart. SWEET! Next week: "Threads", aka as it has been called, "Reckoning: Part 3." I love the Daniel-heavy episodes.

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    Default Re: Reckoning, Part 2 (817)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kes
    There was one that cracked me. Probably juna or chulak.

    Where all the Jaffa in the old snakehead helmets looked startled when the gate opened.

    I could imagine them saying...

    "whoa, what's going on - we're still in season 1 here."

    that was chulak. someone has identified it as being from family

    and yeah, they just reused stock footage that didn't have cast members in it

    maybe it was a bit symbollic in a way

    daniel also 'died' in double jeopardy, almost did in prisoners, got involved with the 'destroyer of worlds' in p&p, quit the/sgc, almost died in FIAD...bout the only one that didn't have daniel dying was chulak and the as yet, unidentified gate

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    What planet is Juna? What ep was that from and which of the Reckoning gates was it? I mena, what did it look like?

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    i liked episode overall, but that thing with gate being connected with every gate in the galaxy was a little much for me. if that was the case, how would it work if a person went throught that gate? would they appear on all planets at the same time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by langdonboom
    What planet is Juna? What ep was that from and which of the Reckoning gates was it? I mena, what did it look like?
    juna is from double jeopardy and it's the one with all the rocks lined upin front of it

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    thanks! another ep where daniel is 'killed'! Though of course just the alternate Danny.

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    Overall a great episode. the one thing that irked me was the rotating lock for the weapon...I mean come on, nobody would ever do that in the history of the galaxy????

    I guess since the gou'ld have always controlled the planet and no free people have ever been there it's possible; but a little far fetched.

    Loved the daniel eating it again, can't wait for next week !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by darman
    i liked episode overall, but that thing with gate being connected with every gate in the galaxy was a little much for me. if that was the case, how would it work if a person went throught that gate? would they appear on all planets at the same time?
    I think if a person went through when it was rigged up like that, they'd pretty much die.

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    Wow... what can I add to the conversation that hasn't already been said?

    Loved the interaction between Sam and Jacob - especially when they're discussing her blowing up a sun

    Selmak! Where have you been m'dear?! We missed you terribly!

    Daniel - lordy where does a girl start? Vis Uban blues with no glasses for a start... his sparring and 'defeat' of Replicarter long enough for the Carter Brain Trust (plus snake) being able to figure out how to use the Ancients device and use it.
    And no I wasn't expecting that ending either. I've heard complaints that Jack wasn't concerned that Daniel was still on the missing list.

    Oh he's concerned alright, but there is that small matter of a Replicator invasion of Earth to be concerned about! So yes, he's worried about his dear friend.

    Baal - was wonderful as ever. Loved Jacob & Selmak's diva moment (Selmak cannot work like this and neither can I!) And it's great to see that 'Avenger v2.0' has some reason to justify it's existence!

    All in all a great episode and despite my eariler misgivings, I'm looking forward to 'Threads'.
    Can't give higher praise than that!

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    So its pretty much safe to say, the replicators are over yay, but i was starting to like Replicator Sam... So are there no more system lord anymore?

    Very dramatic episode, liked a lot of things about it, very well could be a season finale for me, especially with a cliffhanger of Daniel's death...

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    That was one of the best episodes yet! Watching the repeats of Season 1 made me wish they'd make more episodes that involve all the team. Even though the team weren't all together this time, it felt like they were.

    With all the screens showing the whole universe and all the Stargates being opened at once, the galaxy felt really small.

    Also, more Jack/Siler scenes, which are always funny.

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