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  1. #21
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    Okay, excellent episode. Liked the goa'uld infiltration of the Trust, but why would they allow Kinsey to drive off with them when they know the Trust has beaming technology? Wasn't the empty house a bit deja vu?
    Minor gripe and not really important cos it was a brilliant episode, Kinsey/Jack scenes were great.

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    OOHH! what a great episode. I firstly have to say that I have been proven wrong. After the brilliant 'It's Good To Be King' last week, it thought we would be subjected to a week of O'Neill being away for no good reason. But it finally seems like they've got their act together in the second half of this season, and have found better ways to use RDA's reduced schedule, but still keeping O'Neill highly involved in the action.

    Though i didn't like this episode as much as last week (becaused lets face it that was pure class) this episode was one of the strongest earth based episodes of the season and left a lot of possibilities open for the trust and kinsey and the Goa'uld they're working for. (Don't know about anyone else, but my money's actually on Anubis!). My fav parts listed below:

    1. The 'Mikita Courier'
    2. Daniel and his dry cleaning
    3. Daniel with a zat gun on the Prometheus in his suit
    4. Jack and Kinsey (even when they're being nice they're still so not!)
    5. Jack on the phone to the russian president "when was the last time you saw Colonel Kiselev wearing his glasses?" - how lame did it sound basing their Goa'uld theory on the fact that he didn't have glasses on.
    6. Solid proof that although Daniel can speak at least 23 languages, he can't speak all of them well! ("I guess we'll stick to English")

    There are a couple of issues however.
    1. I know most people, myself included think that Kinsey will still be alive, but how could he have possibly made it off the Alkesh. Guess the guy just won't die, like many other baddies.
    2. More info needed on how Kiselev was got to.
    3. How come the heads of the trust all seemed like 30 years younger than those we have previously seen (and what about the rest of them!?)
    4. How come every woman Daniel meets seems to fancy him (not disagreeing though!) and seems to be so desperate to help him, and yet he stil hasn't got a girlfriend? She made it obvious straight away that she liked him, and was all "Daniel I'll get you out!" when he was taken. Love sick puppy - i think so.
    5. Does Teal'c actually have a driving license, or just his practice from '1969'?

    All in all a good eppy, and the unanswered questions and seemingly quick resolution, though a little annoying made the middle part of the story stronger as a result.

    Oohh. Reckoning next week. Can't wait.

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    No more Trust. Thank you thank you thank you

    Kinsey....him being a Goa'uld...bet that doesn't last.

    Generally a good ep this one and better than last week. It also had a more old-style SG-1 feel to it with Jack actually useful to the plot.
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    Default Re: Full Alert

    To be honest I found it a bit boring. Although for some reason I was expecting "Reckoning" which I am looking forward to, so I suppose anything would have been a bit of a downer.

    I think the person who works the "flange" on the Goa'uld voices has lost it. It is starting to sound very tacky, and cheap, kind of how Apophis's voice was in "The Nox" episode. It wasn't "full" enough if you get me.

    I liked the nuclear war part.

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    It was a good episode. Wish it showed the prometheous firing energy weapons not missles.

    Well wondering how many goau'lds left on earth and how to get them all?

    So far only way get to them would be we know asgards have sensors that if something has a goau'ld in it or not and maybe they can locate and beam them somewhere like prison or inside the sun. Also I suppose we could symbiote poisen the whole planet that would kill them all of them except the ones living in underground bunkers possibly.

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    I am definitely enjoying the second half of season 8 more than the first half. This episode was well done!! Kinsey as a Gou'ald was brilliant! I knew he had it in him.

    Great dialogue! The plot kept me involved. However, the build up to "Reckoning" and "Moebius" is painstaking! I wanna know the end NOW!!

    I am already looking forward to the commentaries on the DVDs. (Hmmm....I wonder if I could get a price break if I only ordered the second half of 8. )


    I do have a question. If the Russian general was a Gou'ald and his right-hand man was a Gou'ald, then why did they take Daniel's blood? Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by somme
    To be honest I found it a bit boring. Although for some reason I was expecting "Reckoning" which I am looking forward to, so I suppose anything would have been a bit of a downer.

    I think the person who works the "flange" on the Goa'uld voices has lost it. It is starting to sound very tacky, and cheap, kind of how Apophis's voice was in "The Nox" episode. It wasn't "full" enough if you get me.

    I liked the nuclear war part.
    Interesting that you should say that. Remember when there was a discussion on the fact that we hadn't seen the glowy eyes in a while, and then when we did, they looked weird (at least they look weird to me)? I don't like them. I know they're probably higher-tech looking now or something, considering the advances that the show has made, but the glowy eyes of yore are WAY better. I'm wondering if the voices met the same fate or something...

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    I thought it was very boring for the most part--way to much exposition and not enough action. The scenes in Russia were a pretty good mix, but the stuff back at the SGC was dull.

    We went to Defcon 1-- big deal, we know nothing's going to happen and everything will be all right at the end. There was really no urgency to anything.

    Speaking of the end-- what's with that abrupt dead stop? They run out of time or something?

    I probably sound like a broken record at times but this is just NOT Stargate anymore. It's more like... space pirates or something.

    Another disappointment. This was more of a Tell rather than a Show.

    The good bits? Jack didn't act like an idiot. Daniel was HOT in that suit, but... he's talking way way WAY too fast.

    Oh--- I'm glad they had the Russians speaking Russian rather than English!
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    Terrible episode!!!! SG-1 is steadily going downhill. The storyline quality is getting really poor. I am thinking getting rid of my satellite stations in europe, the only reason i got them was to watch SG-1 early.

    O'Neill is not on SG-1 anymore and the show is suffering badly. I was hoping the show wouldn't end like this, the show is gonna end with many badly written stories after it. Too bad cuz it is better to end a show when it is doing good than drive it into the ground...

    This episode was so boring i could cry!! It ended so quickly with an incredibly stupid ending with no purpose whatsoever. Arghh i am just upset that this show was once great now it is getting disappointing week after week (although "its good to be king" was pretty good i have to admit...)

    If you want good character development and exciting stories WATCH ATLANTIS it is doing a lot better than SG-1 at the moment.
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    Earth Symbol Man of the Match: Opposition Striker Senator Kinsey

    Mr W loved it, he said it was great cos Stuff Really Happened. I can't argue with that. Does it make any sense at all for me to say that it was a good ep but I didn't really like it? I mean, it had action, humour, continuity, surprises, lots of stuff that was a Really Big Deal... ie plenty of great ingredients. And yet I have little desire to see it again, which is really unusual for me.

    I did like Kinsey's role in this one though - another rarity. I felt he got given a lot of depth (in his swansong ep! the irony!), and he was interesting cos whereas before I always thought that he was posturing and speechifying whenever he spoke about the Stargate Programme or US security this time I got the feeling he meant it.

    I guessed what was in the box, and it was easilly the most thrilling part of the ep. Ronny Cox gets top marks for acting in this ep, and especially in that scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token
    I do have a question. If the Russian general was a Gou'ald and his right-hand man was a Gou'ald, then why did they take Daniel's blood? Any ideas?
    The Russian colonel had ties to the Trust but that doesn't automatically mean he has a symbiote in him. It just means the Trust could get to Kiselov very easily. Or maybe they were just putting on a show for the benefit of everyone else, to reinforce their charge that they believed the American leadership had been compromised by the Goa'uld.
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    Wow... Jack was in a lot of this episode. In the extended Lowdown that came with my Season 7 boxed said, RDA, when talking about his schedual said:

    "I've seen some of the later scripts and I'm wall to wall [in them], so I don't know how [we're going to make them]."

    Maybe this is an example of a Stargate episode that's Jack-Heavy.

    Anyway, I enjoyed the episode. It had lots of plots running along, the end of the Trust (went out with a bang! Heh!), lots of Jack and just continued the storyline that's been building this Season very well. And Goa'uld Kinsey! That could be interesting.

    Only two things bugged me:

    Lionel Pendergast and "Comm. Officer". Damn it, I want Col. Ronson and Maj. Gant back!

    The ending. It just kinda... stopped. It was VERY quick.

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    You know, for an episode of Stargate that had little to do with the Stargate, this was a great episode!
    A homage to "The Sum of All Fears". I dunno why, but anything to do with the world being on the brink of nuclear war is really entertaining (probably because TV's the only medium we can enjoy that sort of thing ...).

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    This was a weird ep. It wasn't awesome, but wasn't terrible, wasn't good, but wasn't bad. It was just...there.

    I enjoyed the scene between Jack and Kinsey at Jack's place and Kinsey, Sam and Daniel in the van ("Take off your belt" ). Kinsey's 'eye glow' looked wrong, and the Goa'uld voiced seemed different somehow . Also, the ending felt rushed.

    Maybe this seemed disapointing because I found 'It's Good To Be King' so enjoyable, or because I have such high expectations for the latter episodes of Season 8 (I don't know why, i'm sure i'll just be disapointed )

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    An Earth based mission that I enjoyed.

    This surprised me alot - it was a very interesting episode and the last six episodes look great as well.

    The first scene was great - O'Neill and Kinsey, the way Kinsey pulls the phone line so then Jack gets out his mobile instead to phone the Sheriff.

    Daniel thinking he wasn't needed so he would go and get his dry cleaning!

    I liked the interaction between Daniel and the Russian Woman - as someone already said Daniel seems to be getting all the ladies attention lately. I liked the bit when Daniel said her English was good and she asked in Russian how good was his Russian and he answers in not so perfect Russian so the woman then says "We'll stick to English".

    Good to see O'Neill and Chekov sort of getting along - those two are never friendly and there was some tension but they worked well together.

    Surprised Major Davis wasn't in this one - this episode seemed suited to him.

    Good to see the same crew on Prometheus - two questions regarding that thoe is A: Why weren't the shields up in the first place - there is a cloacked enemy ship so you would have shields up ready! B: Where did Daniel get the beam device from and how he get beamed to the Bridge and not the mess!

    One last question - where did Kinsey beam down to! The device only works short distances so he must be back on Earth.

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    Default Re: Full Alert (814)

    In the Things-That-Make-You-Go-Hmm category, I was just wondering if it was standard practice for a brigadier-general to be carrying a concealed hand gun when going out for groceries at the local supermarket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
    In the Things-That-Make-You-Go-Hmm category, I was just wondering if it was standard practice for a brigadier-general to be carrying a concealed hand gun when going out for groceries at the local supermarket.
    I said the exact same thing when Jack pulled the gun out of the back of his jeans... also did you notice just how much beer he bought...

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    Well, don't have much time to register my opinion, but just time enough to say that I really, really enjoyed this episode.

    First of all, it was great to see Jack being completely Jack in this one. If that makes sense. Not just One Liner Jack or Constipated-In-The-Briefing Room- Jack (what is it with that stock expression he uses in the Briefing Room these days that seems to be the only expression he's got?) but the Jack we know and love who can take a crisis in his stride and be serious and determined when the situation calls for it. A fully engaged, completely animated Jack. How wonderful to see his return.

    Of course, he hadn't lost his sense of humour in between times - perfect balance. Can we have more of this please?

    The teaser was an absolute joy. Laughed out loud at Jack pretending Kinsey had stymied him by pulling out the phone lead - then casually taking his cell out of his pocket and starting again. ROTFL! And there was so much wonderful banter between him and Kinsey in that scene. Also, nice little touch of throwaway detail - the kind of thing I really love to see - where we learn that Jack and his good buddy, Andy the local sheriff, play poker.

    I almost fell off the chair laughing at "Five bucks, Carter has a theory!" and "Yeah, well, we're under new management." And the Briefing Room conversation with Teal'c being assigned to the Prometheus, the banter over Carter's suggestion for the search program and finally the great interaction with Daniel and Jack (especially Daniel casually looking around as he waited for Jack to dismiss him and then deciding it was time for him to pick up his dry cleaning) was an absolute joy to watch. Oh and how could I forget, "If you don't do what they want, they'll kill you. If you don't do what we want...we'll let them."

    Generally speaking, the great thing about this one too was the air of tension throughout. Something which I thought was lacking in last week's episode. (I enjoyed IGTBK a lot, but felt that the Jaffa these days just don't inspire the same tension they used to and were pretty much a non-threat). This week, there was a real air of danger and threat. Loved the solution to dealing with the Alkesh and the Trust members escaping back in Endgame - how inventive that they were caught by the Go'auld and turned into hosts. Now there's irony for you! LOL. Kudos to the writers there.

    I enjoyed the team getting down and dirty - Daniel and Carter doing the surveillance, Daniel in Russia was a delight, especially his interaction with Daria ("Language!"). Only poor Teal'c was short-changed really.

    Yup, this one's already a firm favourite and one I'll watch a time or two (or maybe more ) again.

    also did you notice just how much beer he bought...
    Well, he was providing the beer for the poker night, remember. <g>

    Oh and how nice too that even though they thought this was the last season they didn't kill off Kinsey on screen, but left it open-ended. Can't see it taking much writing talent to bring him back in S9 if they want to. Yay! <G> Kinsey, back on Earth, with a Go'auld hand device. Spooky.

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    Default Re: Full Alert (814)

    well he does have a poker night on friday with some guys, I don't think hes turned to being an alcoholic just yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
    In the Things-That-Make-You-Go-Hmm category, I was just wondering if it was standard practice for a brigadier-general to be carrying a concealed hand gun when going out for groceries at the local supermarket.
    I thought that was...odd too. Here's my theory: Jack left his gun in his car for some reason, and realised it was there when he got in after doing his shopping. He put the gun in his pocket so he would remember to bring it with him when he was getting out of the car, and so it was conveniently there for him when he found his front door open.

    I realise that Jack is the last person who would be careless with where he leaves a gun but it's the only thing I could come up with...unless he is really really paranoid...

    I'm putting too much thought into this.

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