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    Quote Originally Posted by lordvader
    Is it just me, or are the Puddle Jumpers the ugliest damned ships in the galaxy ?

    I mean, look at all the other ancient tech, and then look at a PJ. It's like ALL the designers took a day off when they designed that thing .....

    Ugh ....
    It's just you.

    Now, I'll try to explain the time travel thing, as it is (as always) very confusing.

    Basically what happened is an Ancient 10,000 years ago built the time device in the Puddle Jumper and travelled forward to a time after SG-1 defeated Aries (He wasn't there watching SG-1). He then went back several hundred years and wrote down the events on the pillar and left his Puddle Jumper there.

    Now, when the Ancient did that he changed everything that happened from then on. Obviously things like the earthquake and the flood were still going to occur, leaving the pillar and PJ couldn't change that. But other things did change, and that's the timeline we see.

    In the timeline we didn't get to see Maybourne wouldn't have become king ("There was no specific mention of me") and SG-1 wouldn't have got the PJ. Fighting off Aries probably would have been a lot more difficult.

    I hope you can all understand that

    Now some spoilers for Before I Sleep and Mobius
    Spoiler:
    We know this is how time travel works with the Time Jumper. Weir going back in BIS created a new timeline where the power in Atlantis lasts a bit longer and the failsafe saves the city. SG-1 going back in Mobius changes the timeline to whatever we get to see in Mobius Part 2. And the Ancient here (most likely Janus) changed the planet by telling them what would happen. (Perhaps an experiment to see the effects of time travel? He observes their history, takes note and then checks what happens after leaving the pillar there)

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    Oh no .....

    Can the moderators please shut down all threads that involve time travel "explanations" and "theories" ?
    There are so many, and they get rediculously stupid (not saying the previous post was stupid btw).

    Leave the time travel discussion to theoretical physicist's, and accept the fact that Stargate is science FICTION, not FATC.

    Thank you, and goodnight.

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    Ummmm... possibly a stupid question: How is everyone 'reviewing' and 'rating' this episode, when it hasn't aired yet? At least, it hasn't aired in MY reality. Is everyone in an alternate universe, or did you time-travel in order to see it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordvader
    Is it just me, or are the Puddle Jumpers the ugliest damned ships in the galaxy ?

    I mean, look at all the other ancient tech, and then look at a PJ. It's like ALL the designers took a day off when they designed that thing .....

    Ugh ....
    It may just be you. I love the Jumpers. I think they look stylish and cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyh
    Ummmm... possibly a stupid question: How is everyone 'reviewing' and 'rating' this episode, when it hasn't aired yet? At least, it hasn't aired in MY reality. Is everyone in an alternate universe, or did you time-travel in order to see it?
    Episode #13 of SG-1 "It's Good To Be King" was shown in the UK on TUES.

    Episode #16 of SG-A "The Brotherhood" was shown in Canada on Monday.

    Next monday and tues #17 SGA and #14 SG-1

    The ppl from the UK and Canada have seen those episodes and everyone else who is discussing it got them through...alternate means.........read the "do not discuss downloading episodes" threads.

    I see that you are from the USA like me. Sci-fi will air episodes #11 of SG-1 and SG-A on Jan 21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeleine_W
    At the end though, why didn't they fly through the gate? They walked. Had they already taken the ship through and then come back?
    The PJ is too big to fit in the Gateroom at the SGC. Or the Alpha Site, for that matter. They'll have to find some where else to hide it, or at least modify one of said locations to bring the ship in. Hmm...maybe they turn the SGC's gate onto it's back and open the overhead shaft. Just fly the thing straight up and out to Area 51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordvader
    Is it just me, or are the Puddle Jumpers the ugliest damned ships in the galaxy ?

    I mean, look at all the other ancient tech, and then look at a PJ. It's like ALL the designers took a day off when they designed that thing .....

    Ugh ....
    They look fine to me. Besides, puddle jumpers are essentially shuttle craft and most such transports are designed for short-ranged flights, hauling cargo and meant to fit inside small spaces. They're not intended as fighter craft.
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    This episode is on tonight in Australia. Looking forward to it. i just hope there are no Atlantis references in it otherwise they will be cut from the show here.

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    Great ep! For all the same reasons as everybody else.

    Did anybody else immediately think of the RDA Thunk Thread here on Gateworld when O'Neill made his "Who would've *thunk* it" comment?

    Mmm, wonder if Joe has been sneaking a peek?

    Could it be a deliberate reference? I guess it wouldn't be the first time...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordvader
    Is it just me, or are the Puddle Jumpers the ugliest damned ships in the galaxy ?

    I mean, look at all the other ancient tech, and then look at a PJ. It's like ALL the designers took a day off when they designed that thing .....

    Ugh ....

    Uglier than the Promethius? Nah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brassguy
    Episode #13 of SG-1 "It's Good To Be King" was shown in the UK on TUES.

    Episode #16 of SG-A "The Brotherhood" was shown in Canada on Monday.

    Next monday and tues #17 SGA and #14 SG-1

    The ppl from the UK and Canada have seen those episodes and everyone else who is discussing it got them through...alternate means.........read the "do not discuss downloading episodes" threads.

    I see that you are from the USA like me. Sci-fi will air episodes #11 of SG-1 and SG-A on Jan 21.

    Interesting... I thought that eps were usually shown in the US first. I have no idea why I thought that, but usually the US posters are slapped at for 'spoiling' episodes before they're shown elsewhere. At least, that's been MY experience.

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    Was a so so ep. Don't know why everyone is raving about it. I suspect because the rest of season eight has been so bad that anything in comparison looks great.
    Very, very average, I'm afraid.

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    It was good in that it wrapped up the whole Maybourne thing. We know he is staying where he is. There will be no more HArry Maybourne I would doubt. Consider the Maybourne thread tied.

    I liked the line by Jack "God I miss going offworld!"

    The two shots from teh timeship that took out the mothership was .... easy. Lucky for them they hit something vital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaharaGate
    Did anybody else immediately think of the RDA Thunk Thread here on Gateworld when O'Neill made his "Who would've *thunk* it" comment?
    I thought that too. I heard him say it but thought "Hmmm where have I heard that before". It didn't click until I came on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaharaGate
    Great ep! For all the same reasons as everybody else.

    Did anybody else immediately think of the RDA Thunk Thread here on Gateworld when O'Neill made his "Who would've *thunk* it" comment?

    Mmm, wonder if Joe has been sneaking a peek?

    Could it be a deliberate reference? I guess it wouldn't be the first time...?
    The first thing I thought was "The Gutter Gals are gonna go crazy" . I thought the same with all the references to ship .


    I really enjoyed this episode, it reminded me of the old SG-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordvader
    Is it just me, or are the Puddle Jumpers the ugliest damned ships in the galaxy ?


    ....
    Nope. That's the Prometheus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imzadi
    The first thing I thought was "The Gutter Gals are gonna go crazy" . I thought the same with all the references to ship .


    I really enjoyed this episode, it reminded me of the old SG-1
    Yes it was a real stroll down memory lane Especially liked the flowers at the end for some reason.

    Maybe they'll tell us in the DVD commentary whether it was an intentional reference

    Although...if RDA knows about the gutter gals, that must either be a REALLY REALLY good thing or a REALLY REALLY thing.

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    Just saw the ep. It was pretty good; kind of like a season one romp aged to irreverant maturity. From the few publicity photos I saw I was expecting Monty Python-esque shenanigans.

    The first time Sam brought her face in close to Maybourne's I was expecting another great Foothold line, especially since she probably wanted to hurt the guy, badly, after what he put her through in PL, but.... Nothin'.... Drat.

    I did like the reference to The Grateful Dead The sound for the ep was very bad; what was the welcoming ditty they played for Jack?

    Maybourne was not quite there in this ep; his "coming clean" speech was too Disney for my tastes. I'd have liked him to play that part in character - he's smarter and craftier than that. I do appreciate how his time with these people has softened him. His scene with the kids was cute and I couldn't help but compare it with his scene with Ally in Bane. I guess he don't smell so bad, anymore, eh?

    I haven't been able to make sense of why the timeship was on the planet, but I've only seen the ep once, with terrible sound, so I'm looking forward to reading your posts on the subject. It made sense, to me, that Jack would have all kinds of trouble making it work but then, when he got going it became easier.

    The pulldown controls at the rear of the Puddle Jumper must be a common component in all Ancient tech. Sam had no trouble locating it and got right to work on it, just like Rodney does in Atlantis. Maybe the Antarctic outpost has similar tech that she's worked with? I can't figure out how she knew at a glance which componenet was the time machine. Hopefully, watching it over(and over and over) again will make it all clear to me.

    So, for me, all in all, GtbK was another good ep. Season 8 has been batting a thousand, IMO.
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    As I read through the posts,there was mention of "Harry" having "Wives"[emphasis on the plural].For some odd reason that made me think of the charachter from the original "Star Trek"series named "Harry Mudd".If I remember correctly,he had a harem too,but I think they were androids or something.
    I realize I can have stange thoughts,but with both "Harry M's",both a bit of a thorn in the side ......I couldn't help but make a connection.Anybody else see that,or know who I'm talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tok'Ra Hostess
    The sound for the ep was very bad; what was the welcoming ditty they played for Jack?
    It is the MacGyver theme. Gotta love Jack's reaction when they started playing (if the music was playing during filming) and told them to stop playing because they were disgracing his theme
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