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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelagia
    I don't know what I think of this yet, I'll have to watch again and then decide. I know I found all the sexual innuendo to be terribly childish and immature writing-wise. The first bit with Vala in the Super Soldier outfit coming on to Daniel was funny, but after that it got old rather quickly. The fight between Vala and Daniel was simply ridiculous and way OTT. I always thought Stargate was supposed to be a Drama, but the writers seem to be trying for a comedy and falling short.

    I'm also getting tired of hearing Jack's words come out of Daniel's mouth and for this I blame the writers. Daniel is not Jack. He isn't a sarcastic, jokes at the wrong moment, silly, brainless git. You could have exchanged Jack for Daniel in a lot of this episode and not had to change the lines at all. That's not good.

    This could have been a very good dramatic episode, with Vala having once played host to a goa'uld and survived where Shau'ri died. Instead we got .... I'm not sure exactly what we got.

    CB did a pretty good job, and MS was good as he channeled Jack. Good to see DSD back and that Walter was there, but lose the lass with the hiccups, that was simply ridiculous.

    I'd truly like to see less of the buffed up military Daniel, and more of the old linguist/archeaological man.
    I totally agree with you Pelagia. This was a total none episode. Nothing happened. And you're right they passed up a fantastic opportunity to have a nice dramatic Daniel centric episode instead we end up with Carry on Stargate...

    It was great to see DSD again and I hope we get to see a lot more of him in the future.

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    This was a bizarre episode. I mean, it was weird seeing Hammond act heroic and go onto that ship to get the crystals. I suppose it was more shock than anything!

    Then there was the whole Vala thing. Dear oh dear. I agree with previous posters; her character just came across all wrong. Definitely not what I had in mind, I'll tell you what. Hopefully the character isn't quite the same for whatever eps the rest of the season has in store for her.

    It was great seeing Hammond again though. Damn that hiccupping woman too! I was hoping she'd have gotten left behind

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    Fantastic episode.... C.B will be a great replacement for A.T.

    The chemistry between her and Daniel was far better than we ever saw between Jack/Sam.

    cant wait for season 9!!!!

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    So, overall, the ep was good? I'm glad. I haven't been too excited about this ep, but I am definitely looking forward to seeing it (not that that's anything new). If they can achieve two great eps in a row, I have more than enough faith in them to make the rest of the season just great.

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    I just hope they don't ruin it during the ninth season with the Farscape Reunion

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    Best episode so far this season

    Most definately. I was in stiches at most of it. I laughed the entire way through the opening credits after seeing Jack's reaction to "I'm taking Walter too"

    I didn't like Novak in the first scene, but she was fine after that. When she tells Reynolds to give Hammond mouth to mouth... I could hardly breath I was laughing so much there. And Walter blowing the crap out of the other ships... priceless

    Vala was really good, but how much of what she said was true? It's a good thing she'll be back in Season 9 anyway. I thought most of the sexual innuendo was funny. And the fight between the two of them had shades of Xander vs. Harmony

    I only had one problem with the episode: damned humanoid aliens. If they had to be alien, could they not have made them Serrakin or something? (though that would have resulted in further questions from Daniel...) This race better be back, they need a name. *glares at PTB*

    Also, did I see Sgt. Bosworth in the credits? It flashed by pretty quicky, but I thought I saw Bosworth written there...

    So, absolutely brilliant episode, far surpassed my expectations (which were actually high, so that means it was really good)

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    ...First Jack is only in there for like 5 minutes ..right at the beginning..and no Sam at all

    The episode is OK but I will never watch it again...it's very Daniel centric ...why not !!!! Daniel deserves his episode too although he is far from being my favorite character but he was hot in that episode ..Vala thought so too ..Daniel is not vala's boyfriend ...he zats her at the end ..before she had time to speak again ...Vala finds Daniel attractive compared to the other ones of the prometheus crew ....this is why she kept him mostly ....Vala is probably in need of sex ..she does mention sex to Daniel in the episode ....They have a fight ..and it's hilarious ...I laughed so much ..They were very good ..She kicks him in the !!!!!!It hurts ..poor Daniel ....Vala was a lot to cope with for Daniel ..but I think TPTB made Daniel play the John Crichton fellow a lot ..specially when he carries her ...and in the fight too.

    Hammond was there and it was nice to see him ...sg3 was there too...and they got transported by vala in her ship which was a go'aould ship .

    Then she kept Daniel ...when Vala and Daniel first meet ...Vala is dressed with a supersoldier outfit and is undestructible ...and she said to Daniel she finds him attractive.. still wearing the supersoldier mask ..Daniel panicks and says "You are not my style" then she takes off her helmet and we see her with her long black hair like Eayrin Sun. Eventually she takes all her supersoldier outfit ..and she wears a very tight black outfit [a bit catsuit)
    ..very sexy I suppose for a guy to watch...After the fight with Daniel he zatts her a first time and puts her in a secluded room ..but she does not wear the same clothes anymore ...so she obviuosly knows that Daniel changed her in proper gear ..She tells him that because he saw her naked ..he can do lunch for her because she is starving ...and she eats at one end of the table and Daniel at the other end with his zat gun right by his hand just in case.

    Anyway ..she says she wants the prometheus because she wants to save her people ..but apparently she made a deal with other aliens of another planet to exchange the prometheus against the Naquadah that they have ..The deal does not happen ..because Hammond and the others found a way to make the go'aould ship work ..( Vala made sure the go'aould ship will not follow them) and go and save Daniel and Vala ...Vala helps Daniel at the end ...She is a good person really ....he does not know what to do with her ...so I suppose he puts her back in the secluded room!!!! and at the end she escapes ..and he says to Hammond and the other ones "She is good"


    There is also that military girl who has the Hickup during the whole episode ..but this is a minor plotline I wonder why they had to do that but anyway .


    Daniel was John Crichton and Vala was very much Earyn.....They left the ship open ...between Daniel and Vala ..we can not conclude that they'll be an item ..Vala was a bit much for Daniel ..After the fight he was so relieved when he zats her ...and at the end too ..he zats her again ..and *sigh*


    Quite a good episode ... some hilarious scenes....but I'm not a Daniel fan therefore I probably won't watch it again .. Daniel was hot though in that one ....but I liked Vala .....I think she 'll be good for the show while AT is away for the first 5 weeks of season 9


    Caty

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    Quote Originally Posted by flynn1959
    Fantastic episode.... C.B will be a great replacement for A.T.

    The chemistry between her and Daniel was far better than we ever saw between Jack/Sam.

    cant wait for season 9!!!!

    Don't forget that Sam and Jack are military and can't consort that way..and Vala and Daniel are just normal people ...who can do whatever they please anytime ...anywhere...and they call each other by their little names too ..I think this is important to consider in the story line



    CB is not replacing AT ..she(Vala) is an alien ..not a colonel ..and she is only filling the gap because of AT's baby ..and yes I think she is a good thing but ...Sam is Sam and I really like her ...and I like Vala too...I don't think AT would appreciate the word "replacement " to be honest.

    I think it's more a question of compensating the lack of availability

    Caty

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    I loved that Vala was bringing sex into everything. Not all characters should be the same, some should be a little "weird". I must say I agree 100% with Teal'c, this was the episode I looked forward to the most, and I must say I really liked it. And I think we can settle the "energy weapons", since they wouldn't run out of ammo

    I said 6 months ago or so that I thought this episode would make a really really good story line if followed up, and TPTB seems to agree with me

    I loved Novak btw.

    Oh and Prometheus with Asgard hyperdrive = 1,300,000c an increase with 1,100,000 from the Nr. one.
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    OK...

    If this is what happens when Farscape actors are let on to the SG1 set then this is not a good omen for S9!

    1. OK...which writer's dumbarsed idea was it to have the most prominent female crewmember in this episode hiccup for the entire ep!

    2. I was LOLing for the entire Daniel-Vala conflict - not sure I was supposed to be though.

    3. Having said that, it was good to see Hammond again, and his one-on-one with Jack at the beginning was class!

    In short Joe, if you got that stash from the Farscape crew - please dump the rest down the drain!

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    Ok loved it, loved it! Below are my fav bits:

    1. Jack and Daniel together again!

    2. General Hammond, his chair and Jack looking so gormless in front of him once more!

    3. Daniel thinking the super soldier was coming onto him and also the part where he was wincing at her taking the helmet off.

    4. the fight - esp the bit where Daniel was kicked over the control panel and his legs flew up in the air.

    5. Daniel and the aliens - "Hans Olo" and "I'm not surprised. Do I look surprised?"

    6. Reynolds at the thought of giving mouth to mouth to General Hammond

    7. Walter in general (i think he's been great with his extra airtime in season 8)

    8. Daniel in general.

    9. I agree the best line was "you're a fruitcake"

    10. Daniel getting some action (bless him its been five years!)

    I really thought this was a great episode, it was nice to have a funny episode after the more serious Sacrifices/Endgame and Gemini. Ok, so it was a bit OTT at times, but it was funny because of it, and i certainly think it left you wanting more - finding out what Vala's deal is and I really want the rest of SG-1 to see his chemistry with her. I think its good he got some action, he was funny, quippy and held his own. I have to admit I didn't really miss Teal'c or Sam, and the bit of Jack, although short was well worth it. There were a couple of things I didn't like (that hiccup woman mainly) but what I also thought was nice about this episode was that it gave time to other people, Reynolds, SG -3, Hammond and Walter. Think I'm going to watch it again now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnos
    I liked the episode very funny, especially all the sexual innuendos etc.
    the sexual innuendos were crap and childish. Sloppy writting by the writers.

    So so episode. A bit pointless, but I'd say 6/10.

    Excellent CGI work for the spacebattle scenes. Great ship movements/camera angles.

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    will someone post a summary of this episode? there have been none yet.

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    This episode was really good! The second half of both Altantis and SG-1's seasons are quite good! I can't wait for "Reckoning".

    In the infinite expanse that we occupy, whose to say that something's impossible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geb
    Just like to say what a crap episode and waste of time. What was the point in this episode? Only good point was to see general hammond .

    A couple of questions really. Why do the shields fail so quickly and weapons run out so fast? Before you say we dont have enough power for the asgaard upgraded shields why would they update them and not give us the necessary equiment to use them properly.
    I agree. It was funny, and visually nice, but other than that, a complete waste of time.
    It seems like the writers knew this was a filler and didnt put much effort into it. There just seemed to be parts of the episodes missing. The last two episodes of stargate have been very predictable. If they are going to take Farscape actors, they should take their unexpected stories too.

    Big Cons were
    1) They don't explain much about vala
    2) Prometheus gets beaten up bu a few gliders. Isn't asgard tech supposed to be in another league compared to the Goauld
    3) Where are these asguard weapons? We've heard them to exist. I cant see the asgard as having a sense of humor to give us Hyperdrive and shields, and say "Yea, sure, a few missles and bullets should keep you safe"

    I love this show, but this episode brought up memories of "Space race"

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    Prometheus Unbound was such a cute episode!

    Cute as in, I give a 3/10 for episode quality and 12/10 for how much I adored it. I know that doesn't make much sense, but there ya have it.

    Eps like this generally aren't my prefered flavour of Stargate- the slapstick humour was overdone- and it bordered on corny. It's like everyone was trying really hard to be RDA. They got most of it right though- funniest thing I've seen on Stargate this season was the 'I find you attractive' part. The look MS had was priceless.

    ...And some of it they got wrong. Whats-her-name Mc'Hiccup was definitely the most annoying character in the history of television. Oh, and the mouth-to-mouth? Oi, lol. The planet they landed on was... interesting. The aliens were, um... different. I guess I've gotten used to aliens looking all human that it just didn't ring true for me. And why did Prometheus get it's butt kicked so hard? Jack better ask Thor for some defence shield upgrades next Christmas.


    But hello... Daniel! He and Vala had oodles of chemistry, and they were so funny around each other. I loved watching their scenes, even when it got incredibly cliched. They never really dealt with Vala's past the way I wanted to though... so she was host to a Goa'uld (unlike ANY other woman who has fallen for Danny) and she was tortured etc... but don't we get anything else about her? I guess there was that 'mystery' aspect to her.


    Think it's too soon for a D/V ship? I know, everyone's cringing, but I can't help the way my mind works. Unlike most of the 'relationships' Stargate has attempted, they had absolutely no angst. It was just... playful. In a really shallow way. I can't wait to see Vala again! She kicked ass. Definitely has potential to be as cool as Sam Carter... and I wouldn't say that lightly.

    So yes. I have a love/hate relationship with this episode... but because I know they'll never do something like it again this season, I'm leaning towards love.
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    Just have to say that I loved this ep. At least they got back to action, even thought we didn't get to see the big round spinny thing that is hiding in the basement.

    Loved the Jack/Daniel argument and the way Hammond settled it. And Jack's chair!! LOL! I have to watch future scenes to see if it's really gone!

    Walter!! What can you say!? The poor man went nameless for years locking chevron seven and turns out to be one of the hidden jewels in SG1!

    Vala/Daniel... Loved it when he punched her in the nose... Didn't seem very hard though, they should have thrown a little blood in there, on both of them. Real punch like that should have brought some blood.

    The fruitcake line had me rolling! I wasn't sure about CB in SG1 S9, but now I kinda wish they'd signed her as a regular and BB for a few spots instead of the reverse.

    I was laughing the whole ep pretty much. The sexual innuendo didn't bother me in the slightest. I figured that Vala has and was using it to distract Daniel... and it worked for the most part.

    The whole "you're not my type" had me rolling because I knew from spoilers that it was Vala in the supersoldier suit... LOL!

    And Reynolds giving mouth to mouth to Hammond!! ROTFLMAO!! And his line about, "good waking up, oh, and good job too". I had to go back and watch that again cause I was laughing too hard the first time to catch it!

    All in all, I thought it was one of the best eps so far this season. Gemini was also good IMO, so if the rest of S8 is as good as these two, it should be wonderful!!

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    this episode was supposed to be funny? it might of been alright if they didnt have the retard hicup girl, wow that was bad.. such a good idea done so wrong.. i get sad when i have to watcha not so good sg1 ep.. i think they keep saving the good stuff for sga witch is having a good s1.

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    First of all, I'd like to mention how utterly hilarious it is to see such polar opposite opinions on this ep and Gemini. This fandom never ceases to amaze/humor me.

    I was just wondering:

    a) Transcript, please!!!

    b) And what the frell is up with the hiccups. Madeleine said something earlier, but I was still quite confused. Can anyone clarify please?


    Thanks!

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    There was a AF Technician (or something) who hiccupped constantly. It started during a briefing Daniel gave.

    There was a brilliant line after they'd all been captured; "well on the bright side my hiccups have stopped". Corny I know, but I was in such good spirits from the rest of the ep that I found it hi-larious.

    Madeleine

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    I finally got to see it. I don't like slapstick humour, or sexual innuendo, and I thought both went way OTT in this. The fight between the two of them was ridiculous, partly because there's no way Vala should have been able to beat up Daniel, not after 8 years of training. And the constant muttering about having sex-- to me this was the writers FORCING an attraction, rather than letting one appear on it's own. Every once in a while I caught a little spark, but it was not in the places where it was written.

    If this is what Vala is, and the way S9 is going to be written, I'm not looking forward to it. I'm not a hormone-ridden 14 year old boy and I get no thrill out of an episode like this. When I watch an episode and I see MICHAEL rather than Daniel, then something is wrong. This just isn't Daniel for me, and I'm hugely disappointed. Everything seemed so forced. If I wanted to watch Farscape, then I would go rent the DVD's.

    What was with that chickie who kept hicupping? It did nothing for the plot; I assume it was put in there because someone thought it was 'funny.' Can we stop with the 'comedy' and get back to DRAMA?

    You only have, what, 40 minutes to tell a story? If it's not pertinent to the plot, then leave it out.

    And when you have to give someone CPR, you don't wrinkle up your nose in disgust and hesitate. Both Reynolds and Hammond (AND Damien Kindler!) are far beyond the 'ooh, cooties, he's a boy I can't put my lips on his!' age!

    And writers? DANIEL IS NOT JACK. Please stop putting Jack's words into Daniel's mouth, it doesn't sound good at all.

    We really need some FEMALES up at Bridge in the writing and producing areas. Some new blood. You're hiring Farscape actors, why not hire a few of thier writers, too? Give yourselves a bit of a break, working on two shows at the same time does not make for good quality.

    The best thing in the entire episode was the teaser; that actually felt natural. Other than that, I'll watch this when it airs in the US, but it won't be on my re-watch list.

    IMO, this should have been a serious episode, not a 'comedic' one. Nobody's heard from Atlantis in ages, they're going off to hopefully rescue them when they get "hijacked." ARGH.

    I'm hugely disappointed.

    Dana Jeanne

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