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    "Subversion" (118) Pre-Airing Discussion/Speculation Thread

    Writer: Paul Mullie
    Director: Alex Chapple

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    Congratulations Coronach for guessing correctly!

    You win a lifetime supply of nothing!

    Ok, all the info I've collected on this episode:

    I eventually made my way back up to the offices and where I chatted with Brad about episodes 18, 19, and 20. He and Rob have some fantastic notions for the stretch run that promise to cap off SGU’s first season with a bang! And plenty of surprises.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...ually-rolling/


    Goliath writes: “So Marty G. is writing more episodes of SGU than you? I thought you were the staff writer? Is he technically a “freelancer” now? I don’t understand all the differences here.”

    Answer: When all is said and done, Martin and I will end up writing the same number of scripts: 2. Before the season kicked off, we all gathered together and spun the first ten(ish episodes). He landed an early episode. I landed a later episode. Since his episode was earlier in the schedule, he got his in first and, as a result, was given a story idea that Exec. Producer Rob Cooper had pitched out. I finished my episode, Space, which was much later in the schedule, then switched gears to work on the Stargate Atlantis movie. With that done, I spent some time pitching out some ideas that didn’t really go anywhere but it looks like I’ll be writing episode 19 that Exec. Producer Brad Wright had a terrific idea for the other day.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...d-the-mailbag/

    I’ll start thinking about 19 – which dovetails nicely into 20, our thrilling season finale.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...at-year-is-it/

    Today, we set aside an hour to talk stories – specifically, the back half of SGU’s first season. Okay, okay. I think that, this time, I’ve got it right. […] Finally, Paul and I are going to start thinking about #19 and #20 as it now looks like we’ll be the ones to put the capper on SGU’s inaugural season.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...-hee-ha-ha-ho/

    PG15 writes: “[…] 2. Is Paul writing the season finale? […]

    Answers: […] 2. Paul and I are presently hammering out episodes #19 and #20. It remains to be seen who will be writing which one. […]
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...h-the-mailbag/

    Well, damn. Normally, when I’m given the green light on a story idea, I can head off on my own, spin it and beat out an outline inside of a week, but I seem to have hit the wall with episodes 19 and 20. Part of the problem rests with the fact that, when I break a story, I start at the beginning and work my way through. Unfortunately, the idea pitched out for episode 19 is fairly complex and full of TBD’s (“To Be Decided’s” for those not in the know). Paul suggested we work backward from episode 20, but that is easier said than done given that 20 is fraught with TBD’s as well. Working backward is the right idea, but our starting point should actually be season two. Sometime in the next two weeks, we’re going to have to sit everyone down and establish a game plan for the back half and beyond. That way, we can all head off on hiatus with a script assignment – and, more importantly, come back from hiatus with SGU’s first season stories locked down.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...he-comic-book/

    Well, after several weeks of talking about it, we finally sat down and did it – the writers set aside their other work (editing, outlines, autobiographies) and their differences (the Binder-Gero feud is legendary) to gather and break Episode #19. And, in under two and a half hours, we were done. Not only did we have a terrific story with not three, not four, but five FULL acts, but Robert Cooper had come up with an episode title none of us hated (which, trust me, is a major achievement). Can’t reveal the name yet but, as Carl noted, if you switched out a single letter, it would have the same title as an episode of Atlantis.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...-walker-smith/

    Breaking a story can go either way. It can be a fast-paced and entertaining exchange of ideas in which all participants contribute to fashion a gripping, tightly plotted, detailed episode breakdown. Or, it can be a frustrating exercise in futility spent arguing story points and running into creative dead-ends resulting in little, if any, progress Usually, it falls somewhere in between.

    Earlier in the week, we had an example of the former when we all got together (along with the visiting Martin Gero) to break episode 19. Inside of two and a half hours, we were done: The tease and all five acts .
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...brian-j-smith/

    PG15 writes: “Are you writing episode 20? Is Paul writing episode 19?”

    Answer: Yes and yes.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...h-the-mailbag/

    Major D. Davis also writes: “1. You already know my reasoning, so is episode 19’s title is hope? […]”

    Answers: 1. Nope. […]
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...h-the-mailbag/

    Josh Taylor writes: “How are the final two episodes going for Season One?”

    Answer: Paul has already gone to script on episode 19. I received notes on the outline for 20 and plan to start work on the script later in the week.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...d-catching-up/

    After a discussion with Paul – who is writing the penultimate episode which segues neatly into mine – I had a game plan [for the season finale]
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...-some-mailbag/

    Paul is apparently into the second act on his script.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...ctical-puddle/

    As promised in yesterday’s comments section, I reveal to you the title to Episode #19. Those of you who guessed Subversion – guessed correctly.
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...itle-revealed/
    Last edited by PG15; 02 September 2009, 10:19 PM.

    #2
    I haven't really been a fan of the episodes he wrote in the last few seasons of SGA, so I'm a bit worried, but I'm gonna hope for the best.

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      #3
      [...] - Somewhat slower going on Paul’s script, Subversion, Episode #19. I assume he’s finished Act I by now. [...]
      http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...rdoponics-lab/
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        #4
        Small update:

        Matt Boesch writes: “ u said that Episode 19 will become episode 18 and your two scripts will become episode 19 and 20 so does that mean subversion is now episode 18?”

        Answer: If my fellow writer-producers feel that I have two strong scripts then, yes, Subversion will become episode 18.
        http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...nd-the-mailba/

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          #5
          That makes me wonder if they are going to get rid of an episode
          Originally posted by aretood2
          Jelgate is right

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            #6
            They are.

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              #7
              Originally posted by jelgate View Post
              That makes me wonder if they are going to get rid of an episode
              I think it was said that episode 17, which hasn't been written yet would be put aside.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Madwelshboy View Post
                I think it was said that episode 17, which hasn't been written yet would be put aside.
                Yeah, JM said it would potentially be used as an episode for season 2 (if they get renewed that is.)

                There are no regrets. Thank you Brad Wright and everyone else for SGU,
                and the amazing Stargate franchise in general.

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                  #9
                  Sounds good to me, because I didn't want him writing a season finale...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by reddevil18 View Post
                    Sounds good to me, because I didn't want him writing a season finale...
                    Do you mean JM? Because he is writing the season finale.
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                      #11
                      And the last few times he did that we got The Siege Part 2 and Camelot.

                      I'll admit that JM/PM are not the best writers of "regular" episodes, but damn if I'm not impressed with their finales! PM's "The Last Man" is my favorite SGA episode.

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                        #12
                        Matt Boesch writes: “ u said that Episode 19 will become episode 18 and your two scripts will become episode 19 and 20 so does that mean subversion is now episode 18?”

                        Answer: If my fellow writer-producers feel that I have two strong scripts then, yes, Subversion will become episode 18

                        that was my question. sweet.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Coronach View Post
                          Do you mean JM? Because he is writing the season finale.
                          Oh, so this will become episode 18, but JM won't be writing just ep. 19, but the finale as well? Meh...

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by reddevil18 View Post
                            Oh, so this will become episode 18, but JM won't be writing just ep. 19, but the finale as well? Meh...
                            Essentially, the unwritten episode 17 will be scrapped. episode 18 written by CB will become episode 17. episode 19 written by PM will move to 18, episode 20 written by JM, will become episode 19 & 20

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Madwelshboy View Post
                              Essentially, the unwritten episode 17 will be scrapped. episode 18 written by CB will become episode 17. episode 19 written by PM will move to 18, episode 20 written by JM, will become episode 19 & 20
                              Ah! So he's stretching the season finale into a 2-parter, with 19 and 20? Hmmm...

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