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    Default Re: Cold Lazarus (106)

    Quote Originally Posted by Albion



    And then there's that poor crystal! It tells them its energy is fading and that if it doesn't get back to its planet it will die - So, do they react immediately with concern and dash it back to the gate and home so it will live? Nope. They all collectively turn their backs on it, start discussing the revelations it's given them, and leave it there! Hey, folks, hello, dying alien life form sitting on the desk here!


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    Good point.

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    Maybe they needed a new paperweight.

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    Default Re: Cold Lazarus (106)

    Quote Originally Posted by _Anubis
    yeah but I wonder what about Sara she saw 2 Jack's and Charlie and knows about the stargate !!
    There was obviously some time after where Jack talked to Sara that we didnt see.


    My question is how did the jaffa move the crystals with out getting shocked and stuff. Also why did they leave one crystal unbroken. Its not like it was away from the others.

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    Default Re: Cold Lazarus (106)

    This ep _can_ be accussed of sappiness but I've always loved the fact that SG has been willing to wear its heart on its sleeve in a way that say...ooh, Voyager or some such could never pull off. We all hurt and we all have baggage -- SG1 is one of the few shows to remember this.
    Script a little clunky and finding its feet at times sure, but anyone who has kids and doesn't get choked here has got to be harsh.
    moving acting by RDA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gone_fishin'
    This ep _can_ be accussed of sappiness but I've always loved the fact that SG has been willing to wear its heart on its sleeve in a way that say...ooh, Voyager or some such could never pull off. We all hurt and we all have baggage -- SG1 is one of the few shows to remember this.
    Script a little clunky and finding its feet at times sure, but anyone who has kids and doesn't get choked here has got to be harsh.
    moving acting by RDA.
    About the clunkiness of the script:

    Most SF shows need a season or two to get their head on straight and figure out what they're doing. The first season or so, the writing is usually spotty, as is the acting, and sets and costumes tend to be on the cheesy side as everyone settles into their roles and figures out how to work together (TNG, SG-1, and DS9 are prime examples, as is B5 to a lesser extent). So I always give the first season or so of a new show some slack. This is first season, and fairly early first season at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gone_fishin'
    This ep _can_ be accussed of sappiness but I've always loved the fact that SG has been willing to wear its heart on its sleeve in a way that say...ooh, Voyager or some such could never pull off. We all hurt and we all have baggage -- SG1 is one of the few shows to remember this.
    SG-1 remembering baggage is one of the things that makes it so good--if I couldn't write on or even ponder over various charcter demons, I'd be bored to death with it. The fact that said demons aren't in ever episode keeps it from getting bogged down (I haven't seen much Andromeda, but the eps I have caught seemed to be like that), but mixing a few in every so often keeps we devoted fans onboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion
    There is something that always makes me wince though and that's the awkward, clumsy dialogue when Daniel fills Sam in on Jack's past and Charlie's death. It makes Sam look callous and uncaring. A kind of "Oh dear, how sad. Oh well, never mind, look a cool crystal!". And later, the same lack in the writing gives the same impression when she reports to Jack that she has a theory the alien might have gone to find Sara. I know that the fact that it's radioactive is important, but Sam adds in this fact like it's some kind of casual afterthought, with no real sense that she has any inkling this could be potentially dangerous for Sara and little sense of urgency. It's a weird little moment of delivery that always strikes a sour note for me.

    And then there's that poor crystal! It tells them its energy is fading and that if it doesn't get back to its planet it will die - So, do they react immediately with concern and dash it back to the gate and home so it will live? Nope. They all collectively turn their backs on it, start discussing the revelations it's given them, and leave it there! Hey, folks, hello, dying alien life form sitting on the desk here!

    But these little quibbles aside, this is one of the highlights of the season for me. A great episode.

    Albion
    I agree with you on both points, but still a great episode. I'd heard Cold Lazarus was a good episode, but i managed to avoid spoilers and i was pleasantly surprised by what happened. Definately a tear-jerker.

    I loved that when the real O'neill came back throught the stargate, the speakers were saying "unscheduled offworld activation - this is not a drill...unscheduled offworld activation - this is not a drill" Lol, i can't believe they have to say that! What do they say when it is a drill?

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    I really like this ep!
    Its great!!
    Very funny in bits (especially Teal'c, and real Jack coming back through!), and its great to see Jack how he used to be, with a family. I think its so cute when he meets Sara in the hospital!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gone_fishin'
    Script a little clunky and finding its feet at times sure, but anyone who has kids and doesn't get choked here has got to be harsh.
    moving acting by RDA.
    You said it. I can't watch this one without dissolving into tears the moment 'Charlie' touches Jack.

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    The scen with Jack in the brig was hilarious!
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    You know, I was watching this episode yesterday and I couldn't help but wonder, how did Jack open the iris BEFORE the wormhole materialized? I mean, in all the other times before, you had to enter iris codes after the wormhole engaged because radio waves travel through the wormhole? But this time Hammond says, "Why isn't the iris closed?" Walter says "someone has our IDC codes, sir." And the wormhole had not even been engaged yet? Does that work? If it works, then its reasonable to say that you could send a message through the stargate without engaging a wormhole completely just by dialing the address? No no no that's not right. Someone help me figure this out.
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    Default Re: Cold Lazarus (106)

    Not one of my favourite episodes, but it did have some nice moments in it

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    Default Re: Cold Lazarus (106)

    This is one of my top favourite episodes. It totally makes me cry, but I love watching it, because it's happy in a way. I mean, Jack has closure. It's just beautiful.

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    Average Episode Nothing to write home about

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    Default Re: Cold Lazarus (106)

    meh, glimpse of off-world activity brought back alien to planet, nice little character building at the end so it is good for being the 6th ever episode

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    Thumbs up Re: Cold Lazarus (106)

    Saw this for the first time Monday night and I loved it! One of my favorite episodes of the series and one of the best of season 1 as far as I am aware, this is probably one of the most underrated episodes of thes series. RDA really outdid himself in this episode with his wonderful performance as the alternate O'Neill and the scenes with Sarah were...touching to say the least. The music was great with the sad piano music playing troughout the episode. The efects were pretty good and I thought the end of the episiode was especially good when the "unity" became Charlie O'Neill and him and O'Neill went trough the Stargate.

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    Default Re: Cold Lazarus (106)

    I just found out that Harley Jane Kozak (Sara) has been writing detective novels for the last few years. I'd seen the name but didn't put the 2 together.

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    I trhink its a lovely episode made to bring a tear to the eye of even the strongest of hearts.
    Oh Yes the Sam is Back and hes more Sci-fied up than ever !!!!!!!!!

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    Default Re: Cold Lazarus (106)

    good back story on jack but thats about it not a fan of this one

    it is good that there had jack get over charlie death early so the chararcter could move on but i think that there could had done it differently

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