What did everyone think of this epp? I am sure it has been talked about over and over but being brand new to the gate I was wondering what everyone thought. Is it a metaphor for egypt? Am I way off? Is it ok if I post my thoughts as I watch each show or has those topics grown stale before I gat here? Just very excited about this show and don't rreally know anyone who watches it. Watching this show to me is like watching a really good mini film. anyone think that way?
One of the things I love about Stargate is that it works on so many different levels and, as you say, each episode is a bit like a short film in its own right.
I'm no expert, but I think this episode could well be seen as a metaphor for Egypt.
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thanks. yea the way he made them build even if it killed him, building to a man claiming to be god. i think i read that that is how alot of people feel the buildings where built
The relationship between Egyptian Pharos and their gods was also very complex; one wouldn't necessarily have to pose as a god to get their subjects to do their will, just making them believe that they have a close enough relationship with the gods would have been enough.
But that's all IMHO, I'm no expert on this stuff.
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I can't recall any episode of SG-1 that I hate, but this one is probably closest. I concur with the other people who have said that it was too early for someone in the SGC to go crazy. Also, the whole plotline, imo, is preposterous. Yeah, it has its moments like any SG-1 episode, but overall it's just weak. It could've been much better in a later season, I believe.
I loved this episode, Hanson could have been a good renegade bad guy but they just had to kill him off. Carter also had barely any emotion for him. I know they broke up but come on.
I was going to criticize Sam for being engaged to a guy who enslaved a planet and worked his followers to death, but I realized I've dated worse.
Didn't really enjoy this ep much. The trees are pretty tough to be able to withstand the really hot rays of the sun. The vegetation seems quite healthy.
Sam's so smart to be able to fix alien technology. She should have pulle the trigger though.
We have seen SG-1 be manipulated more than their fair share of times. In the episode Need we see Daniel manipulated to the point that he allows his friends to be brought to the brink of death. However, we as an audience realize that it was not his fault. Captain Jonas was not an evil man, like Conner said if it was one thing they would have noticed it and been able to stop him. The combination of sun, traveling to different planets, saving a boy, and the hypnotic effect of having so many people look up to you. I can easily see how a good man could go crazy extremely easy. Sam didn't shoot him because she understood that he was not an evil man and that he could still be helped. It was to bad that they were not able to save both Lieutenant's Conner and Baker.
Not to mention that she had some major personal history with him.
I had a hard time picturing Jonas as Sam's former love interest, too. However, I like the fact they threw it in, making her seem like she has some sort of 'life' outside the uniform and isn't some sort of automotan. But there was no on-screen chemistry with them and it kind of fell flat.
I'm liking watching the developing friendships between the main 4 characters. Especially Daniel and Teal'c in this one, when they are working together finding the second shield generator.
This episode seemed to continue on the theme of the what ifs of Gate travel and is every officer/solider really cut out to interact with other cultures from other worlds.
Sam's lunertic fringe comment and then the camera staying on Jack was interesting - Jack's not crazy just WACKO sometimes (reference to Window of Opportunity).
Sam and Jonas was a bit of a shock I mean from what we have seen so far of Sam she seems to career driven to be worried about a relationship - but I guess it goes to show even the most "hardcore" officer/soldier need a relationship/partner.
Daniel's comment typical of the government and solider comment "the crazier they are the more extreme situation they are put into" then Daniel casually looks at Jack.
Haha Teal'c's drawing was "good" and his smile hehe. I from what we understand in Children of the Gods the Jaffa probably weren't allowed to draw/write as when Daniel draws earth symbol he quickly dusts it out so I guess that's where that comment was drawn from/in relation to or it was just his drawing wasn't that good.
I'm loving all the interesting shots they are doing with the Gate maybe I just don't notice them as much any more or they aren't used so often but they are cool. Oh and Gate lying down and activated was cool to.
Also lots of biblical references in this episode.
Overall not to bad of an episode.
This was quite a good one. It showed that Jack was willing to risk being captured while freeing somebody. It showed that Sam may be military, but she won't kill in cold blood. It also (possibly) showed that she hoped Hansen could be 'saved'.
Regarding some previous comments: Egyptian Pharaohs became gods when they died. Occasionally one would want to be worshipped while they were alive (Akhenaten was one, I think), but not often. The pyramids and temples weren't built by slaves. They were built by workers who were paid in food and clothing (Egypt didn't have a cash economy back then). Towns where the workmen lived with their families have been excavated, including evidence that the workmen went on strike if the 'pay' didn't arrive on time. Oh, and if you compare Teal'c's sketch of the 'device' to the cave paintings, it was good. It just wasn't good by the standards of anybody that can draw. (Or maybe Jamala was being kind to somebody he thought might kill him.)
I do have a couple of questions. There were four members of SG-9: Hansen, Connor, Baker and Frakes. Frakes is killed right at the start, Hansen dies when he is thrown through the Stargate, Connor goes back to the SGC with SG-1. What happened to Baker? I don't recall him being thrown through the 'gate and he definitely wasn't there when SG-1 left.
The other question is about the shield. When the two devices are activated, the shield covers an area between the 'gate and the caves. When SG-1 are leaving, Jamala says, "The area outside the caves is big." Daniel replies, "Bigger than you can imagine." Well, the area under the shield when activated isn't that big, and I don't see how it could expand to cover an area bigger than between the two fixed points. Actually, the shield makes me think of the shield in the Childhood's End episode of Atlantis. In that episode the area covered by the shield was limited.
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I completely agree. It would have been great to have that. Also, the first time i watched this ep, i was confused by how Carter knew Hansen. The "gave back the ring" thing went over my head. They should have had him introduced earlier in the season if that was possible.
By the way, was anyone else shouting at the screen- "SHOOT HIM! COME ON!" or am i just part of the lunatic fringe?
sorry, this is in reply to the very first post! (I'm new)
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