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    First Lieutenant darkwarden's Avatar
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    Default Re: The First Commandment (105)

    Quote Originally Posted by F.H.BAGPUSS
    Weird ep,IMO. I didn't really enjoy some parts of the story,but there were some good moments.
    I'll have to rewatch this ep as it's been a fair while.

    Fave quote/scene : Daniel to Sam:"This tastes like chicken ".
    Sam:"What's wrong with that?"
    Daniel:"It's Macaroni Cheese".

    So much for M.R.E.s !
    That was a pretty good part, but also the part where Carter knocks down the guy beating the slave with his gun was pretty funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkwarden
    That was a pretty good part, but also the part where Carter knocks down the guy beating the slave with his gun was pretty funny.


    That bit wasn't too bad, it did make me laugh, but then what needs to be done, must be done!

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    Default Re: The First Commandment (105)

    Yeah I guess, my memory of that episode is a bit rusty, but I can remember most of it, I seem to remember that when Teal'c shot the stone thing that had the shield device in it the bit of stone that was blasted out was a perfect circle, shouldn't it have been elliptical?
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    Default Re: The First Commandment (105)

    Quote Originally Posted by Selmak
    It was to early in the series for someone from the SGC to go nuts.
    Not to put a fine point on it... but the last year that the air force released these sorts of stats, more than 5,000 people with access to nuclear related material (weapons, targetting information, bomber maintenance, security... ect) were moved out of their jobs each year for mental instability. That was out of about 100,000 people.

    Now that stat is from 1980, which was the last time they released that information. It's incidently, the last year they released the total number of broken arrows as well. 51 since 1945. That's an average of more than 1 a year. Food for thought.

    Not good food for thought... but still. People got nuts when they go nuts, even people in classified jobs.
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    Default Re: The First Commandment (105)

    Quote Originally Posted by Selmak
    It was to early in the series for someone from the SGC to go nuts.


    It wasn't the SGC until the gate was actually reactivated, it was just a base of standard military people, he could have went nuts anytime. Besides, that episode wouldn't have been based 'next-day' so anything could happen between the time gap.

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    Default Re: The First Commandment (105)

    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis
    It wasn't the SGC until the gate was actually reactivated, it was just a base of standard military people, he could have went nuts anytime. Besides, that episode wouldn't have been based 'next-day' so anything could happen between the time gap.
    Yeah, I always figured that he wasn't exactly playing with a full deck of cards beforehand and then (if I remember the show correctly) it got worse when he went out to find that kid. Heat like that can mess seriously with your mind. Top that off with a bunch of people worshiping the ground you walk on and presto you are off your rocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibwolf
    Yeah, I always figured that he wasn't exactly playing with a full deck of cards beforehand and then (if I remember the show correctly) it got worse when he went out to find that kid. Heat like that can mess seriously with your mind. Top that off with a bunch of people worshiping the ground you walk on and presto you are off your rocker.


    So very true. I don't think he was mental at first, perhaps something that happened in his life that made him do something like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis
    So very true. I don't think he was mental at first, perhaps something that happened in his life that made him do something like this.
    No, he wasn't "mental" going in. Just a little unhinged (as was O'Neil in the movie). But then events conspired to both deep fry his brain and put him in a position of power and influence. Things just took their natural course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis
    I agree Craized, you'd actually understand if you actually watched the episode. But since I just got up, the device is used for a bright energy beam. He had one of two devices, and needed them to be activated. Yet, he doesn't know how to turn them on...until Carter arrives.

    Um... I'm not quite sure what you mean Anubis my good friend?
    When I said "Did you watch the episode?" I was talng to Selamk who was asking odd questions. Not Hansen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazedwraith
    Um... I'm not quite sure what you mean Anubis my good friend?
    When I said "Did you watch the episode?" I was talng to Selamk who was asking odd questions. Not Hansen.


    Sorry Craized, I misjudged you there. I got confused with a fanfic I was reading at the time.

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    Default Re: The First Commandment (105)

    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis
    Sorry Craized, I misjudged you there. I got confused with a fanfic I was reading at the time.
    You're forgiven, my child. But only if you stop misspelling my name... there no "I" in team...er....Crazed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazedwraith
    You're forgiven, my child. But only if you stop misspelling my name... there no "I" in team...er....Crazed.

    OK, noted. I'll just have to actually remember now!

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    This was one of the boring episodes of the season, though the writes must have liked it to make another similar to it in season 8.

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    Hi! I've got a very specific question. When we see the Natives running after Franks and Conner, some of them wear masks made of "hardened earth" I kow I've seen it worn by a civilization on Earth and I believe it'S the Diolas form Sengal. Can somebody tell me if I'm right or not?

    Thanks.

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    The story itself it just so-so but the quotes/moments make this episode far better than most episodes in S4-8.

    My favorites:
    • The way the Stargate theme swells over the drumbeat at the beginning when the doomed team member tells his partner to get back to the gate. (Notice how they never use the Stargate cue anymore?)
    • "Does it say Colonel anywhere on my uniform?"
    • Daniel's furtive glance at Jack when discussing Jonas' mental instability with Carter.
    • Jack's biblical knowledge (or lack thereof).

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    Default Re: The First Commandment (105)

    So why did the SGC let this guy lead an SG unit I think the SGC will select only the very best and this guy was nuts!!
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    Default Re: The First Commandment (105)

    Psychologists can be fooled!

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    Default Re: The First Commandment (105)

    Quote Originally Posted by _Anubis
    So why did the SGC let this guy lead an SG unit I think the SGC will select only the very best and this guy was nuts!!
    To quote Apocalypse Now, which several aspects of this episode remind me of, "I think the sun put the zap on his head." Sometimes the unstable types slip through the cracks and/or circumstances promote the production of a god-complex (remember Philip Zombardo's prison experiment? or Abu Gharib?).

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    There was probably some kind of underlying instability in the guys character, but not enough to show up in psych tests.
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    Default Re: The First Commandment (105)

    Quote Originally Posted by _Anubis
    So why did the SGC let this guy lead an SG unit I think the SGC will select only the very best and this guy was nuts!!
    Maybe he was schitzofrenic???Perhaps?

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