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    Visit the Episode GuideCAPRICA SEASON ONE
    APOTHEOSIS
    EPISODE NUMBER - 118

    The Graystones flee from the authorities after they are accused of terrorism, and attempt to stop Clarice’s plan to bomb the Atlas Arena. In the wake of a personal loss, the Adamas face the possibility of all-out war among the Taurons on Caprica.

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    Since none of the mods are Canadian and can't watch Caprica, when you want this thread opened (and we can open it as early as halfway through the airing) please report either this post or the main post so all the mods get an e-mail....or you can pm any of use that you see online and we can open it for you

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    watching this now from the summary it seems like the series ends how i wish it was from the start. so far i'm loving it

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    Apotheosis was AMAZING! If only the rest of the series had been as good. Granted it did seem rushed but I am glad we did get some sort of resolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boo1234 View Post
    Apotheosis was AMAZING! If only the rest of the series had been as good. Granted it did seem rushed but I am glad we did get some sort of resolution.
    if there was a season 2 i'm sure it would have cont. from this point.

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    I just found out today that the series continued airing in Canada, so I quickly downloaded all the remaining episodes and watched through them. The last few episodes were absolutely incredible! With every episode I was increasingly astonished at how the execs at SyFy could have been such fools to cancel the show when it was only one episode away from the climax of the entire season! If they had let it continue even one more episode it would surely have gotten a ratings boost. Too bad they saved the best for last, which I guess just doesn't work for such a ratings obsessed network as SyFy.

    Anyway I was at least glad they didn't end it on a cliffhanger and wrapped up all the main plot lines from season 1. I especially loved the final montage showing how the series would have continued. That did confuse me though, since at first I thought once the show was canceled they went back and cut together a quick montage to wrap up the entire show in five minutes. But then I checked YouTube for some of the previews for season 1.5 that were posted back in the summer, and they prominently feature scenes from that montage complete with Clarice's voiceover. That means the montage must have been planned before season 1.5 even started airing! So either they already knew the show would be canceled at that point and just pretended there was a chance of it getting a season 2 all the way up till October, or they originally planned to end season 1 this way and would have had some substantial time jump and introduced a whole new plot line for season 2. It will be interesting if they ever tell us what the plan was with that.

    Spoiler:
    Oh and I read a blog a couple months ago that totally called Willie not being the real Bill Adama and expecting him to die so Evelyn and Joseph would have another son named William. Amazing that ended up being right.

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    personally, i thought the last 5 minutes of the show was also the most amazing. But the episode as a whole was also great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korean_Turtle87 View Post
    personally, i thought the last 5 minutes of the show was also the most amazing. But the episode as a whole was also great.
    Indeed... Cylons coming out of the plane to save the day

    How ironic.

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    the whole damn ending was awesome really wrapped it up nicely just wish i understood what zoe was at the end.

    and do all the cylons have a copy of zoe's program in them ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh Atem View Post
    the whole damn ending was awesome really wrapped it up nicely just wish i understood what zoe was at the end.

    and do all the cylons have a copy of zoe's program in them ?
    I would assume so... or a part of Zoe.

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    Very satisfying ending, really like the montage at the end.

    But after watching the last episode, I got to ask. Wasn't the whole storyline with Tamara just completely pointless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andron View Post
    But after watching the last episode, I got to ask. Wasn't the whole storyline with Tamara just completely pointless?
    Just because they couldn't finish the story because the show was cancelled doesn't mean it was pointless...

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    It is now.

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    Well, the virtual Tamara provided the means by which Daniel and Joseph first got to know each other and how Joseph found about about Graystone's company. Thank link became much more important later on. Then she provided a lot of character development for Joseph, and at least briefly got to serve as virtual Zoe's sidekick. It was also her that allowed them to develop the whole V-World storyline, which for me the use of virtual worlds in Caprica was the most fascinating part ("There is Another Sky" is still my all-time favorite episode). And the actress that played Tamara was fracking hot. ;-) So I think she served a purpose, though I wish they had done more with the character.

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    Wow, you know I totally forgot about Tamara. So when Zoe decided to go back with her parents, did she just blow Tamara off, leaving her behind?

    I've really enjoyed these last few episodes of Caprica. Love how the Greystones fought to save the arena this episode--they were very different people than in the first half of the series, and it's been really nice to see different sides of them. It was also really nice to see Zoe temper herself and focus her energies in a direction other than her parents, though the "I am God" part was weird. I would have really liked the scene that was hinted at when Zoe was finally given a "skinjob" body again, that would be a very touching scene.

    There are, however, certain cheesy things about the technology in the show that I can't help but be annoyed by because it really breaks the realism. The fact that the cylons were physically signaling each other like military soldiers, and holding their hand to their head when they were "listening" to a signal was unnecessary and ridiculous. Also, in the end clips, I couldn't believe that cylons integrated into daily Caprican life still had that ugly, rough industrial metal look. That might be okay for R & D, but as a consumer product they looked ridiculous, especially with a statue made in their likeness. The bright blinky holobands are a tad annoying for me as well, but I can see those actually being made like that, and no have no grievance against them.

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    I am going to miss this show. In 18 episodes it did some killer storytelling, gave me some characters to care about and just generally created a universe that was totally immersive and enjoyable in its complexities. I may be like one of twenty-odd people who actually liked the show in the whole wide world of worldliness, so bully for me for actually taking away a positive experience away from the show. It's been a great ride.

    Part of the reason I'm content with how the show ended is the epilogue seen here. Obviously it was intended to foreshadow events of season two, but, apart from a few threads that can be handwaved away (Duram and Tamara), it worked brilliantly (Music especially. Wow.). Daniel and Amanda and Zoe are a twisted-up family again and continuing their mad science stuff that'll only end badly, the Adamas are concentrated on family, and Clarice is doing what Clarice does best - go bat****. Any character I thought to be a little iffy about at the start turned around for me. Although I'm not sure many would've survived past the initial Cylon war - Sam would probably get caught up in something, Daniel and Amanda would've probably gotten killed by Zoe or something and I have a mental image of Clarice Vs Lacy at the end - I really wished I could've stuck with 'em for a bit more. But, like I said, I'm content with it. All hail Caprica and stuff. Gonna miss it, glad to have watched it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattSilver 3k View Post
    I am going to miss this show. In 18 episodes it did some killer storytelling, gave me some characters to care about and just generally created a universe that was totally immersive and enjoyable in its complexities. I may be like one of twenty-odd people who actually liked the show in the whole wide world of worldliness, so bully for me for actually taking away a positive experience away from the show. It's been a great ride.

    Part of the reason I'm content with how the show ended is the epilogue seen here. Obviously it was intended to foreshadow events of season two, but, apart from a few threads that can be handwaved away (Duram and Tamara), it worked brilliantly (Music especially. Wow.). Daniel and Amanda and Zoe are a twisted-up family again and continuing their mad science stuff that'll only end badly, the Adamas are concentrated on family, and Clarice is doing what Clarice does best - go bat****. Any character I thought to be a little iffy about at the start turned around for me. Although I'm not sure many would've survived past the initial Cylon war - Sam would probably get caught up in something, Daniel and Amanda would've probably gotten killed by Zoe or something and I have a mental image of Clarice Vs Lacy at the end - I really wished I could've stuck with 'em for a bit more. But, like I said, I'm content with it. All hail Caprica and stuff. Gonna miss it, glad to have watched it.
    Well said! I agree with most everything you said. I'm not sure I can picture Zoe killing her parents at this point, though, since it seems the Cylon war is being led by Clarice and Zoe has taken her own ideological path separate (indeed, in opposition to) Clarice's.

    I have to say, one thing I would have liked to know had the series continued was what Zoe would think about Cylons being mass-marketed for the public. Does she recognize a part of herself in them? Would she consider them a life form or just machines in comparison to herself, who is for all purposes a fully sentient human?

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    One thing I would have liked to know is how in the world did Clarice escape being thrown in prison after the Atlas stadium bombing? At that point it wouldn't matter that Duram's boss was a terrorist. They had all the evidence they needed pointing to Clarice. It like to know how she managed to go scott-free and keep running around in the wild. That was probably the biggest surprise of the final montage--simply that she was in it. Caprican law enforcement must be mighty ineffective. (Not to mention how Lacy and the other would-be bombers in an earlier episode managed to just drive off and escape the spaceport they just tried to bomb with absolutely no pursuit).

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    interesting - the ending (which pretty much precludes any possibility of a 2nd season) suggests this was shot in haste, either as soon as news of the series' cancellation broke out, or in anticipation thereof

    btw am I the only one here who now thinks the entire Bill Adama subplot was an utter waste of airtime ?

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    That's the thing, I think this ending was actually pre-planned. Shots from the final montage and Clarice's final voiceover appeared in trailers for season 1.5 back in July. Either they already knew it would be canceled then and just lied about it until October, or they were originally planning on ending the season that way. I also saw some news articles talking about a possible time jump for season 2, so I think they were going to skip ahead a few years and pick up the story later on, and they had already planned that montage to close out the plotlines from season 1.

    And yeah I thought it was funny too how they advertised the show for months as showing Bill Adam's childhood, only to say, "haha, wrong William Adama, suckers!"

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