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    The desert planet was named Sanghelios? As in the homeworld of the Sangheili from the Halo Universe? (Elites for those of you that don't read the books.)

    FYI, Sanghelios means "Blood Star"
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    im a little dissapointed at this special as it had such as cool title and i was expecting something on the same level if not better than episodes of the series such as the impossible planet or blink, or the whole return of the master saga but what i got was this 1hr of worrying about death coming(flying creatures) but imo it never really felt as though the people on the bus were in any real danger.

    now take episodes from the series such as "silence in the library" and "forest of the dead" where there were so many twists and turns and characters were dying one by one and you couldnt predict what would happen next and bottom line those 2 episodes were down right creepy and entertaining.

    now planet of the dead was a little to predictable, lacked a little drama and plot twists and felt a little like an average or mediocre episode of the series.

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    My BIGGEST gripe, and it's a silly one, is WTF was up with the earpieces? EARpieces? for ALIENS WHO DON'T HAVE EARS?! Or at least not external ones. And certainly not external ones that match the exact contours of a human ear. HA!

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    Oh, well spotted! I missed that completely. Now I feel like a total donkey.

    I can suspend disbelief about the wormhole creation theory by rationalising that maybe their bodies are structured in such a way to produce funky-wierd electromagnetic fields which can work in some ten dimensional way to create the wormhole - but having two human shaped earpieces sitting waiting to be discovered on a ship created by a race of insects who clearly don't have ears - that's breaking the rules of internal consistency. Bad writer!

    I also did think whole opening sequence did stretch credulity a little too much as well - if you're going to have a cracking good opening action sequence you might find a way to do it that doesn't depend on the museum security staff being absolute imbeciles.... Even if it had been a deliberate trap for Lady C which she chose to spring because she was such a daredevil, I would have bought that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reefgirl View Post
    Neither, Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart or Brigadier Bambera for me
    I think it's certainly granted no one can EVER outclass the Brig. But Colonel Mace was a good second. As long as he stays a Colonel, and doesn't try and step into the Brig's shoes, he's fine with me. But Magumbo? Yech. No ta. Not one bit.


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    The start was so awful, it was the most entertaining part of the show. The story was boring and unoriginal. The intentionally comic parts were disappointing and there was no real peril.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Bennett View Post
    I think it's certainly granted no one can EVER outclass the Brig. But Colonel Mace was a good second. As long as he stays a Colonel, and doesn't try and step into the Brig's shoes, he's fine with me. But Magumbo? Yech. No ta. Not one bit.
    And how many years in Colchester would she get for pulling a gun on a civilian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reefgirl View Post
    And how many years in Colchester would she get for pulling a gun on a civilian?
    I have no idea, but quite a few. For those not following, Colchester is home of the Military Correctional Training Centre - ie, a military prison, amongst other things.

    I can hardly imagine Malcolm wouldn't report that act to Col. Mace, and despite the extenuating circumstances, if other UNIT officers have managed to avoid that kind of behaviour, she should be no exception. I doubt the Doctor would have been so smiley with her at the end if he'd have known. Odd thing is, the writers seemed to want us to forget what she'd done...

    It would be nice if she gets some sort of justice for her actions, though I doubt she will.

    Brig would have been horrified.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Bennett View Post
    I have no idea, but quite a few. For those not following, Colchester is home of the Military Correctional Training Centre - ie, a military prison, amongst other things.

    I can hardly imagine Malcolm wouldn't report that act to Col. Mace, and despite the extenuating circumstances, if other UNIT officers have managed to avoid that kind of behaviour, she should be no exception. I doubt the Doctor would have been so smiley with her at the end if he'd have known. Odd thing is, the writers seemed to want us to forget what she'd done...

    It would be nice if she gets some sort of justice for her actions, though I doubt she will.

    Brig would have been horrified.
    Why the hell do the writers want to make UNIT the incompetant bad guy's,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reefgirl View Post
    Why the hell do the writers want to make UNIT the incompetant bad guy's,
    Cause the military is baaaaaaaaaad.

    *rolls eyes*

    I dunno. For once in the new series I was happy how UNIT themselves were handled, it's just their OC that's rather crappy. The individual troops worked very well imo. But you're right, they can't decide whether they want UNIT to be cool, or ruthless *******s...


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    As somebody who is old enough to remember robot yetis in the london underground and a Doctor in black and white blowing on a recorder, I have to say that, on the whole, this was a pretty good episode. Far closer to the old style Doctor Who adventures that the last few years have consistantly failed to give us, with a few exceptions.

    A bunch of innocent victims the Doctor has to save.

    Aliens that you think might be the bad guys, but are really in just as much trouble as the rest.

    A wormhole.

    U.N.I.T.

    Mindless planet killing swarm of metal-clad creatures heading for Earth.

    And, because there was no Rose, Donna or Martha it didn't have half the show taken up with emo loaded angst about how much they miss their Mum/Dad/Grandad/Boyfriend or how the peril affects their Mum/Dad/ Grandad/Boyfriend or how much they have this deep abiding love for The Doctor.

    One little nitpick. After the bus came back did U.N.I.T. fall asleep? How come there was no guard on a bus married to alien technology?
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    I have to say all in all it was a fun episode. I laughed when the Doctor mistakenly called the pizza place. Perhapes a forsehadowing of Torchwood involvement?

    UNIT, I'm not military, but they seemed to accquit themselves better then what they did in The Sontaran Stratagem. Magambo was good, but I liked Mace better.

    Along with the earpeice mistake, where is it written that the Doctor has to snog, save Donna, a woman?

    I can't remember the eact quote, but I did like the references to arresting himself (the Doctor). It brought series one Doctor 9 (CE) and and 10 (DT) full circle to me.

    All in all a fun episode.

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    If they don't bring Lee Evans back I will be greatly disappointed. Hell, they gave him a Welsh accent so he has to show up in Torchwood at least once. I love Lee Evans and seeing him in it just made my day, especially when I greatly enjoyed the character.

    I also really enjoyed UNIT in this episode more than others. Magambo was excellent, especially when she went as far as to point a gun at Malcolm for refusing to abandon the Doctor.



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    Pretty good episode if I do say so myself.

    I found something odd approximately one minute after the title sequence finished (or at exactly 5:05 if from YouTube).

    The odd thing from the scene I am mentioning is that there seems to be a person on the upper deck of the bus... but everyone is on the lower deck of the bus. Then who is this mystery person?

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    This special was like an average Doctor Who episode, but it was definately better than the last Christmas special. There were a few bits with bad acting, but it still was enjoyable.

    What did annoy me were the horrificly bad CGI scenes of the flying bus, the wormhole size (although this could be explained if the center of the wormhole was up 5 miles and down in the tunnel there was only a small part of the wormhole) and the earpieces. Human earpieces on an insectoid ship, that really makes a lot of sense.

    Otherwise it was, as I said, enjoyable, although I had hoped that for a season consisting only of specials they'd at least create specials that are on the level of most Doctor Who two and three parters.

    I also liked the UNIT new scientist and hope to see more of him, and Christina's backpack was amusing.
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    I enjoyed this special immensly. It emphasised more on "Nature vs Nature", with no real antagonist (unless you count The Brigadeer pulling the gun on Malcom, but that was only because she wanted to do the right thing and prevent a worldwide threat from using the portal). The passengers on the Bus were there to push forward the need not to give up on what you leave behind if stranded, and Ryan's characters, whilst unberably stitled and seemingly reading lines from "The Doctor's Daughter", at least gave a good performance as the overly smug Christina. Part of me wanted The Doctor to abandon her to the police rather than allow her to escape...it would have been less Disney-like and kept true to the dramatic weight attached to why The Doctor is traveling alone.

    I can forgive the dodgy CGI of the bus. The BBC have always been cheap *******s where DW is concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Bennett View Post
    Cause the military is baaaaaaaaaad.

    *rolls eyes*

    I dunno. For once in the new series I was happy how UNIT themselves were handled, it's just their OC that's rather crappy. The individual troops worked very well imo. But you're right, they can't decide whether they want UNIT to be cool, or ruthless *******s...
    Basic UNIT squaddies are ok it's just the incredibly bad CO's they've been given recently, Col's Him-From-Dempsey-And-Makepiece and Her-That-Pulled-The-Gun-On-Lee-Evans haven't exactly been Poster Boys and Girls for UNIT.

    I'd have forgiven her anything if she had have shot Lee Evan's character, whoever told the man he could act needs a good talking to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarius View Post
    I enjoyed this special immensly. It emphasised more on "Nature vs Nature", with no real antagonist (unless you count The Brigadeer pulling the gun on Malcom, but that was only because she wanted to do the right thing and prevent a worldwide threat from using the portal). The passengers on the Bus were there to push forward the need not to give up on what you leave behind if stranded, and Ryan's characters, whilst unberably stitled and seemingly reading lines from "The Doctor's Daughter", at least gave a good performance as the overly smug Christina. Part of me wanted The Doctor to abandon her to the police rather than allow her to escape...it would have been less Disney-like and kept true to the dramatic weight attached to why The Doctor is traveling alone.

    I can forgive the dodgy CGI of the bus. The BBC have always been cheap *******s where DW is concerned.
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    I really enjoyed it. It was a romp and not as good as the last two specials, and if I had to describe it in one word it would be "forgettable". But these days these thigns say more about the wonderful general quality of Doctor Who than the particular episode. Planet of hte Dead is forgettable simply because it doesn't stand out in complete brilliance.

    It was fun, it was funny, it was an adventure, Michelle Ryan was lovely,. the random future-seeing woman was random and only there to throw the coment in the end
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    and the plot was completely bonkers as usual. Malcolm WAS OTT but he's forgive for standing up to Mgamba and the "I love you" bit n the end

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    Random double posting: I don't think Mgamba or UNIT were portrayed as "bad". I think they were specifically portrayed as "not bad". Yes, Mgamba wanted to sacrifice the Doctor, yes, she threatened Malcolm's life in order to achieve it, but she was making a mistake with good intentions. Doctor Who, of any show, is one show that makes sure to take the person's intentions into account - look at the Doctor himself. How many times he ****ed things up/ made them worse because of his good intentions. Like Midnght, that was mentioned in the episode. He refused to kill the creature because of his good inttinos, and in the end it cost another life.

    The only time I'd say UNIT were explicity portrayed as "bad" wasn't in Doctor who, it was in Torchwood - that scene with Tosh in Fragments.
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    Like the Captain said, she had the welfare of 6,000,000,000 to think about, not just the seven on the bus. I liked her.

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