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    Kill me now, if you wish, but I've got to say that so far, this is my favorite episode. I thought it was hilarious, I LOVED the looks on the guy's faces when they saw her. I agree on the dress though. She was dressed up too fancy considering what the other women were wearing. And I wouldn't think that a place like that would have a dress that makes you stare down a mile of clevage. What, did they have that laying around just in case some Earth women showed up? Other than that, I loved it.
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    With the recent press coverage of the Kenyan leader who offered a large quantity of livestock to Bill Clinton in exchange for Chelsea's hand, I find the part in whinch Jack trades the gun for Sam a mite funnier now.

    And was the guy who played Turghan in 'Elektra'? Just a thought...

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    Ahh, the first "planet of the week" episode. Also the first instance of mysteriously English speaking people knowing such relatively modern slang as "okay". Sam being totally uncooperative, but not in the fun way Jack can be totally uncooperative. This episode was the first to make me worry that the series couldn't keep going at the quality of the earlier episodes, but things worked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JastersLegacy
    Kill me now, if you wish, but I've got to say that so far, this is my favorite episode. I thought it was hilarious, I LOVED the looks on the guy's faces when they saw her. I agree on the dress though. She was dressed up too fancy considering what the other women were wearing. And I wouldn't think that a place like that would have a dress that makes you stare down a mile of clevage. What, did they have that laying around just in case some Earth women showed up? Other than that, I loved it.
    Okay...it's not my favorite...BUT I don't think it's the worst episode ever...so far that award goes to Affinity....

    It wasn't the best ever, though, but it was only their third. They were still getting their sealegs for crying out loud. Some of the dialogue was forced IMHO...like Sam's uber-annoying ultrafeminist crap...WAY over the top and even Amanda found it irritating.

    That all being said, there are some really cute moments and some PRICELESS MOMENTS in this episode as well...

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    Sam (wearing that native blue dress): Daniel, find me an anthropologist that dresses like this and I will eat this headdress.

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    Sam: I will not wear this thing over my face. I don't care how much embroidery it has on it. And this…dress, or whatever it's called, I mean…I can't move, I can't walk…

    Jack: I don't know. (shakes his head, smirking) It…it kind of works for me. I, uh…

    Daniel: It's, it's you, it's…

    [Jack and Daniel exchange looks; in the background Teal'c looks from one to the other. Jack and Daniel turn to Sam and speak.]

    Jack: …you.

    Daniel: (a beat later) Definitely you.

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    Jack: All things considered…Samantha…if we have to come back here, it might be a better idea if we brought an all male team. No offense.

    Sam: Well, in view of the fact that you all get to go to this party tonight and I get to stay in this…yurt that smells like rancid yak butter, none taken.

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    Daniel: Well…Okay, let me talk to Moughal first, this might be another misunderstanding—cultural differences.

    Jack: The hell with culture; a member of my team has been neutralized. That's a hostile act.

    Daniel: How is it that you always come up with the worst-case scenario?

    Jack: I practice.

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    Turghan: Now you are Tugai, women of the forest. What can you do? Can you cook? Spin weave, make dyes?

    Sam: I'm a lousy cook, and I couldn't spin weave or dye if my life depended on it. You made yourself a bad deal.

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    Teal'c: But what will happen to Dr. Carter tonight if we wait?

    Moughal: Turghan will partake in his newest purchase.

    Jack: Oh, there's not a chance in hell.

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    Sam (smiling broadly): What a relief. I have never been so happy to see you guys.

    Jack: Oh, sure you have! Remember that time on P3X-595?

    [Sam starts to lose her smile.]

    Jack: You drank that stuff that made you take off…

    Sam: Ahem. We won't get into that now.

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    Then of course Sam fighting and beating Turghan...which I thought was cool...

    So sure there were several awkward beats in this episode but I give them a pass as it was one of the first and the characters were still being established...

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    My main question was: Why didn't they send Sam back and deal with everything with the remaining three?
    This was in fact the plan. Sam says that she'll just go back to the SGC and 'hope for better luck next time'. Jack says they'll all return to the SGC (presumably in the morning) and come back with an all male team. Unfortunately, she was kidnapped before morning came and they made it back to the gate.

    And I'll admit it - this is one of my favourite episodes. What can I say? I'm a complete sucker for the old damsel in distress routine. And there is such a wealth of what attracts me to any show in this one - character relationship and a group of people showing they care about one another. Just makes me melt into a gooey puddle watching it. It has so many moments that I just adore from all concerned.

    Sure there are problems with it here and there, a couple of points where I cringe, but they don't get in the way of enjoying it for me.

    The one thing which I didn't get in this episode and would have liked to have seen, was Jack apologising to Sam for getting her into the mess in the first place and realising that he'd screwed up badly. It was his easy acceptance of her being treated differently - less than equal - from the rest of his team by the locals that led to her kidnap.

    Had he stuck to his guns and insisted that she wasn't a local woman and therefore should be treated the same as the rest of SG1 or they would all leave back through the gate right there and then, then perhaps that kid wouldn't have gotten the idea that he could treat her as a native woman either.

    Jack made Sam accessible to the locals by the way he allowed her to be treated. His actions in separating her from the rest of the team, putting her on a different level from himself, Daniel and Teal'c, devalued her in the eyes of the locals and put her on a level with their own women. Had them thinking of her as one of their own women. He put her in jeopardy by his actions. Granted, he was taking advice from Daniel, but I'd still have liked to have seen some acknowledgement from him at the end of the episode that the decision had been a bad one. That he'd failed in his duty of care as Sam's commanding officer.

    Oh and I never found the dress surprising. Although the local women wore more subdued colours and less fancy clothing for day to day wear, I would imagine that they had fancy clothing tucked away for special festival or feasting days. What woman wouldn't? And since Sam was obviously being treated as an honoured guest, it therefore doesn't surprise me that one of the women - in fact probably the one with the highest status in the tribe, the chief's wife - given the task of loaning this honoured guest decent clothing, would loan her her fanciest dress as a mark of respect and honour, rather than some ordinary day wear.

    Overall, I just love this one to bits. So sue me.

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    I know alot of people hate this episode, but I didn't actually think it was that bad! It's by no means my favourite ep, but it did have some fun moments in. It was only the 3rd episode afterall....cut the show some slack

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    The 3rd episode and the first time we see SG-1 offworld together as a team (including Teal'C) it was well written i thought!

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    Yeah well take into account they did not set up the characters real well and it was probably just testing the waters.........but bad eppy IMHO

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    it was an ok episode..i liked when same kicked butt and when she had on the dress and all the guys were googly eyes over her, that was funny! i missed the blood and gore stuff though =(

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    oops, i ment sam* =p

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg1freak007
    oops, i ment sam* =p
    Hey Emancipations on.... Lets all bask in the wonderful glow of one of the cheesest of Stargate episodes.... aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh.

    Look Helmuts.
    Look really geeky Daniel
    Movie music.
    Yes, those wooden bow and arrows are a mighty threat to 1st season grumpy teal'c and his trusty staff weapon.

    Awe and greate credits brings chills.....back after the commerical break.
    Joseph Mallozzi -"In the meantime, I'm into season 5 of OZ (where the show takes an unfortunate hairpin turn into "the not so wonderful world of fantasy")"

    ^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?

    AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.

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    Hello native guy, meet Mr Firearm.
    Were those dogs really that big a threat?
    Make up the law as you go, good job old guy, still a bad hat though.
    Looks cold... wonder when it was filmed.
    Their back packs have gotten smaller over the years.
    Define "clothes of a man", I mean aren't all the guys in this ep wearing dresses?
    Properly attiared? not in a dress?.. good job Daniel get Carter in trouble... Jack took too much pleasure in that.
    Wonder if they ever got the miracel drug.. another never followed up on point.
    Teal'c looks like hes bored, even with Carters new look.
    Jack and Daniel are twerps in this scene.
    How come carter can beat the crp out of the cheif guy but gets shanhi'd by the punk kid? Thats just not right... she should have waxed the floor with him.

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    Joseph Mallozzi -"In the meantime, I'm into season 5 of OZ (where the show takes an unfortunate hairpin turn into "the not so wonderful world of fantasy")"

    ^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?

    AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.

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    Forgot to point out the MP5's... P90s are soooo much cooler.
    Daniel still calling Carter Doctor.....wow....

    Wow that was some bad dialouge between Carter and the Kid.
    Now Finally Jack is Mr Military.... "How can you come up with the worst possible scenerio".... "I practice".... nice.

    Teal'c Master Tracker!!!!
    I think this Cheif guy has been, like, a bad guy in 5000 differnet movies... it seems like it, at least. MORTAL COMBAT!!! being the most obvious.

    You should listen to her Chiefy. The boys are coming with Firearms and staff weapons. Exactly how are you going to explain this to your dad punk. More importantly, how are you going to explain it to Teal'c... you know, they guy with the big staff weapon.

    Comercial... got to say... that upcoming stargate ep (ripple effect) better be as good as it looks, because its just got soooo much potential that if they mess that up I will be p o'd big time.
    Joseph Mallozzi -"In the meantime, I'm into season 5 of OZ (where the show takes an unfortunate hairpin turn into "the not so wonderful world of fantasy")"

    ^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?

    AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.

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    It really is quite satisfying when Carter gets to beat the crp out of this guy.
    Teal'c cracks me up... kinda gives that candy bar a look.... funny.
    Yes, yes.... old guys is wise, we get it....and Daniel is still a geek.... thats what teal'c is thinking. Except he is using the jaffa word for geek, probably tack'ta or something like that.
    ooooo, the punk's in wuuuvvvv.
    Carter aaaahhhh warrior and scholar.... guess he wouldnt know what Scientist is. Your not scarry dude, your just cheesy.
    Carters going to give you a beeeeaaaatttt ddddoooowwwwnnnn naw, naw, na na naw.
    Maybe they should change her clothes to something more cook worthy.
    Good horse.
    dude, did you not get the warrior and scholar memo.
    what!!!! forgot about the kiss...is Carter Kirking?

    Comercial.... am i going to get in trouble for spaming this thread?
    Is it spammin really spamming if no one is around to see it?
    Joseph Mallozzi -"In the meantime, I'm into season 5 of OZ (where the show takes an unfortunate hairpin turn into "the not so wonderful world of fantasy")"

    ^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?

    AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.

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    Carter, not sure they are ready for emancipation....oh wait, thats the name of the ep... now I get it.
    "oohhh, theres not a chance in hell", nice line.
    Bad negociating by the old guy cheif... Jack has to save the day. Jack will negociate the way Jack knows how to negociate. The best way.... with firearms. After Daniels goofy attempt... Carrtteeerrr.
    wouldnt shooting a gun in a tent like that be really really loud.
    Wow a TV show where they actually take into account the number or rounds in a clip.
    Finally Carters back in some functional clothes.
    Madness, love, same thing.
    Stupid punk now comes back for help, slap him down T. He really is a cheiftians sun... spoiled brat.

    Doh, commercial.
    Joseph Mallozzi -"In the meantime, I'm into season 5 of OZ (where the show takes an unfortunate hairpin turn into "the not so wonderful world of fantasy")"

    ^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?

    AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.

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    Shes going to marry chewbacca? What'd he say?
    Carter miss save the day.
    Oooo bringing out the Ranks and the Mottos.
    Comm'on Daniel, you guys interfere all the time. (is comm'on a goa'uld word?)
    Think old guy, think..
    Now I do, very much like how the Dad forgives his daughter before he goes to stone her to death.. Seriously, thats not a joke. I think that changed my opinion of open hate towards the guy. I had a bit of sympathy for him when Carter was woopen up on his az because of it.

    Fight the cripple or fight Carter... either way you look bad when you lose. Wait, Carters not a Cheiftan, how come Jack doesnt fight. Did he just say "you played me"?

    "When your backups up against a wall..... bigger they are...etc".... love that line.
    Was Carter a gold glover at the Academy? Doh, knife fight.
    Stunt lady gets a lot of work. Teal'c continues to look bored.
    oooooooo....bbbbllooooddddd
    She has a knife, he has a sword, how is that fair?? he needed a bigger sword.

    You.have.won..... thats a big watch shes got on..
    Jack is funny.... just his looks to the guy with the knife.
    6 day wedding... bet there will be cake... Daniel is still a geek. Teal'c is STILL bored. But we do get the great "What is an Opra?" line out of him. Must have been filmed post production though.
    Good smile from the team... very TOS smileying at end of ep.

    yay... that really is an underratted ep.... dont get me wrong it was a lot of cheese, but man it is amusing when put in context with the rest of the series.

    Well I hope you enjoyed my Emancipation play-by-play....

    Hey dress blues... wait, this is broca divide... better stop now before the mods hunt me down.
    Joseph Mallozzi -"In the meantime, I'm into season 5 of OZ (where the show takes an unfortunate hairpin turn into "the not so wonderful world of fantasy")"

    ^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?

    AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.

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    An ok episode but the problem with it is that it is an episode with no SGC in at all. And I guess it is one of the most unuals episodes you can see why something like this was never attempted again.
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    this was a ok episode could had been better or not done at all.
    this episode shows just how far stargate has coming writing wise and story creation

    hope there locked out this planet from the dialing comcputer

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    didn't really like this episode as it had no action unless you include sam kicking that guy's ass action but overall not a good episode but at last they got to explore other planets

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    I really liked this episode and don't understand why it seems to eb so hated. I thought the perofrmances were good,e specially Amanda Tapping who really pushed further into the character of Carter. The fight at the end remains one of my all time favorite action sequences from the seres. The humor was good and it was good to see SG-1 having a positive influence on a planet (how often does that happen these days?).

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