Weaker Wraith

[fumblesmcstupid]

Well if SuperKeller can kick their behinds....... then they are DOOMED!


DOOMED I SAY!!



DOOMED!!!

[Steven_the_Atlantean]

Don't forget..the Hoffan drug.
These are a few quotes from different episodes,

"TODD: Effective, yes; admittedly creative, but the truth is all of the existing Wraith factions have been adversely affected by this. Our food supply is being so randomly tainted, we have no way of knowing if our next meal will be our last."

Mackay stated that....
"McKAY: Let's not forget that Michael spread the modified Hoffan drug to dozens of worlds -- possibly more. I mean, no-one knows for sure, right? Which means that every time you feed, you're takin' a risk."

Then at the time of the death of Michael, Teyla then stated....
"TEYLA: Unfortunately there will be somebody else to take his place. Of this I am certain."

So that itself made the wraith fraction weaker, the fear of encountering a possible victim(s) of the Hoffan drug.
Wouldn't it be wise for them to start feeding on one another to ensure survival, instead of killing each other.

Think about it,..why would you risk being engaged into a battle... destroying your own hive in order to feed on a world that has already been (possibly) poisoned.

[MartianManhunter]

wow i do not remember writing that...

Puhahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sci-fi fanatic]

I think the Wraith being weaker is similar to the way the Jaffa evolved during the course of SG-1. They started out as fairly nasty enemies, then devolved into guys that went down with one shot. In Season 5, many Wraith just existed to run around corners into bullets. I guess that's an easier way to make a firefight happen if you're the writers.

[Ikaros]

I have noticed quite a few people saying that the Wraith have been somewhat weakened to the point where they can be taken down in a few shots instead of the original entire clip.

And there is a completely plausible explanation for this: Dr Beckett theorised that the Wraith healing ability is directly porportional to how recently they fed.

AND

There is now a shortage of 'food' so we can assume that the Wraith are somewhat hungry and somewhat weaker.

There its been explained.

Nice of you that you cleared that to some people, who looked for flaws where there weren't any.

[WraithQueenH]

I don't think we can judge if they are weaker then they once were at all. Dominate Wraiths on dominate hives aren't the beings we see die. It seems to me that the less ancient and therefore less powerful hives seem to suffer from in-fighting and well as food distribution issues and they are the ones we really see. To us and to the humans of Pegasus, Wraiths appear weaker as their forces are faced with more then just the "normal" Culling runs that Pegasus is used to. But because we don't know much about hive workings or the Wraiths' culture, we cannot judge that.

All we know is that at the end of the series random Drone deaths and lower ranking Officers are more easily killed by SGA. Michael and the Hybrids don't count as they are no longer feeding so we cannot judge the Wraith by them. Take Todd, we don't know how many shots it will take to finish him off (and to TPTB I never want to find out). At this point, I don't believe that we can never know if the Wraith are weaker then before.

[Infinite-Possibilities]

You could look at it like this: in more plentiful times all the Wraith would feed more in general. The lessened strength of the Wraith is a result of a general shortage of humans. Its not that the Wraith are starving and therefore weak per say, they just don't have the surplus they were used to in order to power their enhanced abilities.

[Guest]

lazy writing. you can justify it all you want with logic like "Wraith aren't feeding", but in the end it's just realizing "oh crap, if it takes a whole clip to take down a wraith, then our team is gonna get REAMED."

It's the same as the Jaffa. Didn't Jaffa armor used to be able to deflect M4 Carbine rounds? (5.56) that's a pretty penetrative round. Same with the P90.

Yet on how many occasions did we see Daniel with his dual berretas of doom (which are 9mm i might add) taking down legions of Jaffa who walk into gunfire indiscriminately?

Very rarely when watching Stargate do i ever feel tension for the team. It's like Anime rules, even if they get hit with the one hit instant kill weapon, all it'll do is ruffle their hair and maybe a bloody lip.

[jelgate]

You know all the times I hear fans yell lazy writing it means I was disatsified. A week doesn't go by someone yells it for a Stargate episode. Just because someone doesn't like it mean its lazy writing. Its quite simple. Beckett said the Wraith regentive abilities correlated to when then feed. Awakening the Wraith premature has severely limitied the Wrait's feed supply so it makes logic sense that they are weaker in regentive

[Helmar]

The soldiers just aim better after a few years of anti-wraith-warfare. It's just like Starship troopers at first you need a whole regiment to bring down one bug and later on you need five bullets for six insects.

[Infinite-Possibilities]

It probably was lazy writing. All I'm saying is that it is possible to reasonably justify it with some of the information present in the setting.

[Guest]

But it wasn't written that way.

For the first and into the second season, the Wraith were a credible threat. By the fifth season, Keller was able to hold one off in HAND TO HAND combat long enough for Rodney to use his Beretta of doom (probably stole it from Daniel) to take it down.

The Defiant One showed a fully regenerative Wraith, and how much damage did it soak up? I think if a creature goes from taking dozens of bullets and getting hit with an fragmentation grenade to going down from a quick three shot burst, that's a MAJOR nerfing.

The Wraith are supposed to be tougher, stronger, faster than humans. Yet what do we see? Equality in toughness i'd say.

it's less that i'm dissatisfied wth the series (because i do enjoy it) it's more that it's not consistent and it's noticeable.

I can understand the dynamic behind it too, like someone earlier said, "Die faster!" in order to keep pacing proper. It's a sad fact and i accept it, but why can't the writers try and figure out a way past it?

[Huge Gold Space Cadillac]

I'd repeat the lazy writing thing, but by the same token I suspect the writers can only do so much with 'ZOMGEPICWRAITHFIGHTS'.

I always wondered about what happened to the Wraith psychic abilities. They used to be able actually produce hallucinations and stuff in their victims... It seemed like that dwindled to them being able to only really read minds, and then to nothing.

[rora'sPA]

I think the writers got a bit bored of the Wraith actually I've heard of some SGA fans at conventions rolling their eyes whenever the Wraith are mentioned. The writers made great villains out of them to begin with, but once Todd came along and the alliance with Atlantis was made it seemed that any other Wraith wasn't really that important. Don't get me wrong, I love Todd and the relationship he has with the Lanteans, but it seems that he is the sole focus of any Wraith 'interest' and the rest are just kind of thrown out there with little thought

[Infinite-Possibilities]

In the first while, most Wraith were especially touch because the effects of s shortage of humans wasn't made apparent to them yet, so they just fed like they normally do. Also the defiant one was supposed to be stronger than normal wraith. Sheppard made mention of it even among the Season 1 Wraith.

Keller holding off that one Wraith with basic defensive movements from a small stick is pretty silly. But I think some fans on gateworld concluded that Wraith must have been like a sort of drunken rookie or something.