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    Visit the Episode GuideHEROES SEASON THREE
    TURN AND FACE THE STRANGE
    EPISODE NUMBER - 322

    Noah Bennet grows suspicious that the body in his morgue is not Sylar's, while the real Sylar plans to torment him. Parkman uses his ability to target someone Danko cares about, and Hiro and Ando try to get Matt's temperamental baby to New York.

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    This was a pretty good episode tonight. Finally, Noah is on the run like the rest of them, and we got to see a personal side to Danko. Also, as always, Hiro and Ando were great. Those two make me laugh so much.

    By the look of it, next week's episode should be interesting.

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    What all happened in the first half? I didn't get home till 9:30.
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    i was disapointed that scyler wasn't in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cak20 View Post
    i was disapointed that scyler wasn't in it
    What show were you watching? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cak20 View Post
    i was disapointed that scyler wasn't in it
    Syler or Zachary Quinto?

    Syler was in the episode.
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    TaFtS was ok. Once again the best part was the last scene. I think the people buried there are pre-Primatech.

    I missed all the Mohinder stuff... I remember he found something his father had in storage but didn't catch what it was?

    I'm assuming that Matt, Hiro and Ando are gonna meet up with the Petrelli gang now... hopefully Peter will get his abilities back - Which coincidentally means the baby will no longer be needed will he? (that would be a good thing as far as I'm concerned)

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    After the previous episode, I noted that the return of a strong and popular writer can have a synergistic effect on the rest of the writers' room, even if there are no other major changes. This episode seems to provide a counter-example. Instead of stepping up to the plate, the writers seemed to fall back into old habits.

    Perhaps the worst was Matt Parkman's decision to strike back at Danko by attacking Danko's love interest Alena. The writers use Alena as an object to be used, and she is never given definition beyond her relationship with Danko. It seems to be an excuse for pushing Danko into an even more disturbing direction, thus undermining Matt's intentions completely, but that's beside the point.

    The point is that the writers were already on thin ice. Daphne was killed to service Matt's character. This renders her character little more than fodder to drive Matt forward. Matt's subsequent decision only compounds the offense. Daphne and Alena became objects to be possessed, used, and avenged. I won't pretend to be the most consistent ally of feminism, but some things are too obvious and egregious to ignore.

    It is likely to become a reason for Danko to step up his villainous game, which is unfortunate, because it's an external pressure. Since his introduction, Danko has been lacking a strong internal reason for pursuing his anti-metahuman crusade. Unlike Noah Bennett, who was rendered as a man with clear motivations during the first season, Danko is two-dimensional. That makes him less than compelling.

    Noah's contest of wills with Sylar may have been designed to push him towards working directly with the heroes, but it also exposed all the ugly treatment that Sandra had to endure over the years. This was never much of a secret, of course, since her memory was erased on a regular basis. It's no wonder Sandra wants a divorce!

    An inordinate amount of time was also spent on Hiro and Ando's travels with Baby Matt Parkman. Bringing Matt his son is clearly meant to stop him from falling further into the darkness, but that means that Hiro and Ando are once again used as comic relief. Hiro and Ando deserve a much better subplot than they've been given since the first season.

    The bottom line is that this episode slipped back a bit from the progress they made in recent weeks, and this tempers my enthusiasm for the remainder of the season. It also confirms what fans should have realized from the get-go: Bryan Fuller was not the perfect savior of "Heroes", and no one writer is going to resolve all the issues in the writers' room.

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    Overall a good episode, not the strongest but good.

    Personally I think it would of been more interesting if we saw Matt just shoot Danko girlfriend in cold blood out of pure revenge, just to see how dark his character is going.
    Ando and Hiro, characters are just getting on my nerves at the moment, especially in this episode.
    We saw a bit of Sylar in this episode not as much as I want but a bit, but again I think we needed just something a bit bolder from that scene.
    Through how Danko going to explain where the body gone to, I want to see.
    The best bit was the ending where we saw the mass grave, bound to be some sought of first generation. An a explanation of why Angela and her gang created Primatech. I am betting that they were killed by the government. The government somehow forgot about the whole incident and the existence of the heroes.
    It is going to be interesting how much they are going to tie all the back stories together with the new secret government project storyline.
    I am also wondering where Macca went.\

    I am hoping this seasons end with them deciding to recreate primatech.

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    Heh, talk about a difference of opinion. I LOVED this episode. It was probably the best episode of this volume for me.

    The plot finally started moving towards something, and we got some sweet character stuff with Noah Bennett (who is quickly becoming my favorite character). I liked Matt's story too, and I respect that he stayed who he is and didn't go through with it.

    I had no idea who was, and who wasn't Sylar, so that kept me on the edge of my seat. It was heartbreaking watching Noah screw up over and over, even though he was right at the end. Also, I cheered when Hiro froze time just as Matt was being shot; I was so engrossed in the scene between Matt, Danko (who I now have sympathies for; I think they're doing a great job with his character), and Elena, that I had totally forgotten about Hiro.

    Looking forward to next week's episode!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PG15 View Post
    Heh, talk about a difference of opinion. I LOVED this episode. It was probably the best episode of this volume for me.
    B-but... Cold Snap? No, I pretty much agree with you. I think these past couple of episodes have been particularly strong for the most part.

    I disagree with whoever said that Bryan Fuller isn't turning the show around. I have seen an improvement in the writing and plotting of the show so far. Kudos to him.

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    Morning,
    I agree i feel like it was a very strong episode. Still give Peter his powers back i also feel there making Sylar too strong specially with his shape shifting are they going to use this more and more so that the actor can go off and do other things i wonder. looking forward to next week though not seen any previews yet. Links welcome.

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    I thought it was a good episode, in terms of setting the stage for the final 3 episode of the season. I really dont like the Hiro/Ando & Baby Matt stuff story wise, but it did make me laugh a little. I can understand the Matt/Danko stuff but again it was a bit meh for me. The HRG and Sandra scene in her hotel room was great, with some geat acting from both actors. The final scene as someone has said was the most interesting, can't wait for the Angela centric episode next week!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mrodwell View Post
    Morning,
    I agree i feel like it was a very strong episode. Still give Peter his powers back i also feel there making Sylar too strong specially with his shape shifting are they going to use this more and more so that the actor can go off and do other things i wonder. looking forward to next week though not seen any previews yet. Links welcome.

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    Good episode, the only thing I didn´t like was the massive plot device in Mohinders dad just happening to have left stuff in storage that the landlord for some reason never mentioned to Mohinder before.

    Syler is without a doubt loving his new ability and is using it to great effect, there is no doubt in my mind that he will at some point close in the future take out Danko and take his place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrminarrd View Post
    Good episode, the only thing I didn´t like was the massive plot device in Mohinders dad just happening to have left stuff in storage that the landlord for some reason never mentioned to Mohinder before.
    i agree. i haven't liked mohinder for a while now, and this kind of felt like they just shoved him in there.

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    All previews, episode disscription etc are in the Vol 4 thread
    cool thanks, i've been wanting to see a preview, too

    Quote Originally Posted by mrodwell View Post
    Morning,
    I agree i feel like it was a very strong episode. Still give Peter his powers back i also feel there making Sylar too strong specially with his shape shifting are they going to use this more and more so that the actor can go off and do other things i wonder. looking forward to next week though not seen any previews yet. Links welcome.

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    i agree; especially now that peter basically has none. to begin with they were the strongest characters, and now the villian is unstopable and the hero powerless= good drama! when peter has all his powers it didn't really make sense for him not to just kill sylar out right.

    Quote Originally Posted by PG15 View Post
    Heh, talk about a difference of opinion. I LOVED this episode. It was probably the best episode of this volume for me.

    The plot finally started moving towards something, and we got some sweet character stuff with Noah Bennett (who is quickly becoming my favorite character). I liked Matt's story too, and I respect that he stayed who he is and didn't go through with it.

    I had no idea who was, and who wasn't Sylar, so that kept me on the edge of my seat. It was heartbreaking watching Noah screw up over and over, even though he was right at the end. Also, I cheered when Hiro froze time just as Matt was being shot; I was so engrossed in the scene between Matt, Danko (who I now have sympathies for; I think they're doing a great job with his character), and Elena, that I had totally forgotten about Hiro.

    Looking forward to next week's episode!
    i comepletely agree! i would put my own review up but that's basically it
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    matts plan to get revenge on danko was a bit hard to swallow, would matt even greaving be stupid enough to play right into the whole people with powers are evil thing, what ended up happening would have been a much better plan to take the girl danko loves from him

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    Quote Originally Posted by dosed150 View Post
    matts plan to get revenge on danko was a bit hard to swallow, would matt even greaving be stupid enough to play right into the whole people with powers are evil thing, what ended up happening would have been a much better plan to take the girl danko loves from him
    I think that it would have been better if Matt's desire for revenge had been more of an arc across several episodes building up to the confrontation where we see Matt over the episodes dealing with the anger and loss and inner turmoil over it to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entil2001 View Post
    Noah's contest of wills with Sylar may have been designed to push him towards working directly with the heroes, but it also exposed all the ugly treatment that Sandra had to endure over the years. This was never much of a secret, of course, since her memory was erased on a regular basis. It's no wonder Sandra wants a divorce!
    It was my understanding that the whole divorce thing was a fabrication constructed by Sylar. Did I miss something? I mean, Sandra kicked him out of the house in a previous episode, but she never actually mentioned divorce, did she?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL2100 View Post
    I think that it would have been better if Matt's desire for revenge had been more of an arc across several episodes building up to the confrontation where we see Matt over the episodes dealing with the anger and loss and inner turmoil over it to begin with.
    There was a little bit of that when she was shot but it only lasted until he found out she was still alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myn McGeek, Third Sentinel View Post
    It was my understanding that the whole divorce thing was a fabrication constructed by Sylar. Did I miss something? I mean, Sandra kicked him out of the house in a previous episode, but she never actually mentioned divorce, did she?
    Yeah, the Mrs. Bennett that gave HRG the divorce papers was Sylar.

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