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    Default Re: Russian 304s

    HMS agamemon was a battle ship that fough at trafalgar.

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    Wraith Re: Russian 304s

    and still sounds kool.
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    Wraith Re: 304 bridge?

    after the odessey got theres all other ships were caaled back to earth to receive the new upgrades.
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    Default Re: 304 bridge?

    Yes they didnt get an asgard core but. Think about it anyone captures the ship they'll know everything about you and you're tech.

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    Wraith Re: 304 bridge?

    todd didnt care much for that in the lost tribe.
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    Ford Re: 304 bridge?

    The bridge is located on the back, see http://stargate.mgm.com/extras/
    and there you have your proof
    PS stargate.mgm.com is an official stargatesite so they better have the right facts

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    Earth Symbol Re: Gates on 304s

    Quote Originally Posted by jnadreth View Post
    I've thought about getting a Taur'i ship to act as the Gate Bridge as well-The other big plus is that a Warship is only 9 days(2 Days if ZedPM'd) away at most if you need help!

    What about beaming up Earths Gate onto Oddessy and transforming her into the SGC-It eliminates a lot of risk to Earth by having Earths front door in orbit rather than among the Civilian Population. If in Saeson 1 SG-1 we had Prometheus by some fluke of Time Travel-would Earth have been put at less risk (Not the having a starship part but from having the only gate access in orbit)
    I love both ideas! Put the dronechair in orbit too!

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    Default Re: Russian 304s

    but not HMS...should just be "Earth Vessel - ???", this should be for every nation to show that it is a unified global vessel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Excalibar View Post
    u no ever since Camelot ive been woundering y there hasnt been any new russian ships in the show at all.


    thoughts anyone?
    As I think others have said here the ships are only produced in very small numbers at the moment, so the majority will IMO be going to the USA as they're the ones with the most experience off world.

    As far as people saying the Sun Tsu is Chinese, I don't think that we can assume that just because of it's name.
    Perhaps there's an American General who knows about the Stargate program and was a fan of the book, so they thought it would make a good name for the ship and those people who commissioned her liked the sound of it.
    It could even be someone influential who was working at Area 51 or the shipyard on Earth and they got the chance to name it.
    The meaning of the name could even give it's crew more confidence in the ship, at least that may be why it's called Sun Tsu.


    Oh and BTW YutheGreat I personally hope we don't hear about a ship called Prince Harry or Prince William and as far as Big Ben goes I don't think that would sound serious enough.
    What about the Titan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedalus Commander View Post
    The bridge is located on the back, see http://stargate.mgm.com/extras/
    and there you have your proof
    PS stargate.mgm.com is an official stargatesite so they better have the right facts

    :
    Reading a few other threads, many on Gateworld don't consider it to be that accurate to cannon with regards to details about the Auroras amongst other things.
    I'm sure others will know more about the things that have been missed out in the Tech Journal, but I'd say it varies from ship to ship as the Odyssey's doesn't show the neck when looking out of the Bridge window in Off the Grid (SG1 season 9) when SG1 is beamed up to escape their captors, as shown below the Daedalus has it above the neck and it appears to be somewhere in font of the tower on the neck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rise Of The Phoenix View Post
    As I think others have said here the ships are only produced in very small numbers at the moment, so the majority will IMO be going to the USA as they're the ones with the most experience off world.

    As far as people saying the Sun Tsu is Chinese, I don't think that we can assume that just because of it's name.
    Perhaps there's an American General who knows about the Stargate program and was a fan of the book, so they thought it would make a good name for the ship and those people who commissioned her liked the sound of it.
    It could even be someone influential who was working at Area 51 or the shipyard on Earth and they got the chance to name it.
    The meaning of the name could even give it's crew more confidence in the ship, at least that may be why it's called Sun Tsu.
    Possible but unlikely. US were using greek tragedies until the Hammond. When we last saw the Chinese diplomats in SG1 were nagging about their position in the program giving them a 304 would placate them

    Quote Originally Posted by Rise Of The Phoenix View Post
    Oh and BTW YutheGreat I personally hope we don't hear about a ship called Prince Harry or Prince William and as far as Big Ben goes I don't think that would sound serious enough.
    What about the Titan?
    Sorry I am not English they were the first things off my head. Either that or I call it The USS Harry Potter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rise Of The Phoenix View Post

    Oh and BTW YutheGreat I personally hope we don't hear about a ship called Prince Harry or Prince William and as far as Big Ben goes I don't think that would sound serious enough.
    What about the Titan?
    How about the Queen Elizabeth?
    Or the Colonel Chekov for the Russians, assuming that he is in fact dead.

    I say the Russians should be able to build their own at this point. Unlike the Chinese, they do have full access to all ship technologies and have off world experience. Do they still have a team in the SGC?

    And as long as the US treats Ivan fairly, Russia is willing to back them up all the way.

    Remember that Chekov was only bluffing when he said that the Russians wanted a joint program with the Chinese, they know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YutheGreat View Post
    Until the General Hammond.
    If the British get one maybe name it:

    Prince Harry
    Price William
    Big Ben
    Quote Originally Posted by aretood2 View Post
    How about the Queen Elizabeth?
    I really hate the idea of naming the ships after royalty, i know the new navy carriers are being named with royal titles but its not my thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekillman View Post
    that one would be REALLY cool. i mean, its the hero that tamed pegasus..... just as the deadalus was the inventor-it was the first ship, and in a way, the "inventor" of the 302. just as the Oddyssey has its oddyssey[long journey home] in Unending, just as the Apollo[god of light and music] has its "bright" moment during First Strike.[there was alot of light. from the nukes].

    just as the phoenix was ressurected[alternate timeline destroyed, and now its "ressurected" in ours].

    the korolev was the first russian 304, just as Korolev was the first russian in space.
    sun tzu wrote the art of war, just as the 304 shows the art of war. after all, its a warship.

    in that way, the Bellerophron could destroy the Wraith
    I have never actually thought of that! That is seriously ironic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix786 View Post
    I have never actually thought of that! That is seriously ironic!
    Hey people forgot the Promethius. The Titan that stole fire from the gods and gave it to man. As Lex Luthor said it essence he gave us technology. Our first ship and gave us the technology to fight back against the Goauld

    Bellerophron the monster killer very nice name.
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    ...But what if another nation in this case the UK had the resources to construct a vessel to add to earths fleet should they build a 304 or create something new?

    A longer, yet sleaker vessel?

    I'm feeling a future design coming on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekillman View Post
    that one would be REALLY cool. i mean, its the hero that tamed pegasus..... just as the deadalus was the inventor-it was the first ship, and in a way, the "inventor" of the 302. just as the Oddyssey has its oddyssey[long journey home] in Unending, just as the Apollo[god of light and music] has its "bright" moment during First Strike.[there was alot of light. from the nukes].

    just as the phoenix was ressurected[alternate timeline destroyed, and now its "ressurected" in ours].

    the korolev was the first russian 304, just as Korolev was the first russian in space.
    sun tzu wrote the art of war, just as the 304 shows the art of war. after all, its a warship.

    in that way, the Bellerophron could destroy the Wraith
    Korolev was NOT the first russian in space. He was the super secret rocket engineer that designed all of the rockets and was the father of soviet space flight. He wasn't even known to his own country, let alone the rest of the world, until after he died. Which then the entire country praised him as a hero of the soviet union.

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    do the 304's have 4 docking bays or are the outer 2 for exit and the inner 2 for entery?

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    outer two[the big ones] are for launch and they are the real bays, the smaller ones are retrieval bays

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekillman View Post
    outer two[the big ones] are for launch and they are the real bays, the smaller ones are retrieval bays
    Retrieval bays? If that means where the fighters land, then it never made sense to me. I mean, why would they give their pilots these huge wide launch bays, when their launching on a track and thus a confined to a single path, but then give them a landing bay where the pilot will loose his wings if he or she is half an inch off on their approach.
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