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    Syler and Peter do NOT have the same power, although they are very similar. Remember that future Peter had to learn Syler's power. While the line between their powers is blurring they are NOT the same. Power absorbion runs in the family, but they vary from father to son and son.
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    gabriel/sylar was born up lonely i figure working in a watch makers place and his place had lots of books and such so him having little empathy to trigger his power was being held back whereas peter with such a powerful empathy for helping people could easily access people powers

    arthur powers on the other hand could be empathy based or it was a naturally born ability while his sons are a bonus

    i quite enjoyed gab/elle moment who knows maybe the son gabriel had in the future is elles mother???
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    I've fallen in love with Sylar and Elle. They are so cute together, angry bitter pasts, bright fluffy futures. lol

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    A few thoughts to toss around about this episode..

    #1 Sylar and his newfound way to "absorb" abilities similar to the way Peter can learn them from being in close contact. Is it possible that Sylar learned his watchmaking ways from another superhuman? Early on he might have come in contact with someone that had the power to figure things out and learned them without even knowing. It just seems a little strange to me that absorbing powers thru empathy and cutting someones skull open and sticking your fingers in their brains are so far from each other they cant be the same power.

    #2 Hiro as a kid, no friggin way. For me Hiro went from one of the most interesting, powerful and series changing characters to a nobody. He has spent the better part of 2 seasons being the comic relief and clueless superhuman. I understand his powers are extremely strong, and in order to maintain balance they dont want give him too much information. It just makes the most sense that he would have tons of information, time travel isnt widespread as far as we know in the Heroes universe unless there is someone else out there running around changing the future and from the looks of it that couldnt be possible. I dont want to even bring up how the Speedster being able to move fast enough to interact with him is just nuts. I have seen 2 times in the show since we were informed she could move fast enough to talk, move and see what he is doing that he has still been able to stop time with her standing there and getting away with his normal carrying on. It just seems to happen when its convenient for the story progression, I hate that kind of stuff. The kid thing seems very much like most anime, the strongest character is the one that acts up, doesnt care, has no reason to be able to pull thru yet somehow someway they do.. and I hate that. The villains always spend more time learning how to use their ability while the heroes tend to not want to use their power yet they always seem to pull thru, its a common concept in writing and I hate it.. give us a hero that WANTS to use his powers to make a difference that would make the most sense.

    #3 Not in this episode but worth bringing up. When Claires mother, her real mother was captured by the puppetmaster guy it was clear to me that he could control movement but not thoughts. I dont want to jump to any conclusions but based on what we were informed on Claires mothers powers was that she could create and control fire, which was a mental ability. It would also make sense that her mother couldnt be burned by her own power, if she was then everytime she did it she would get burned.. and we havent seen anything to assume that in the series. So when she was kidnapped why didnt she just ignite the building on fire and burn up the puppetmaster? It was clear Claire wasnt with him and if she was burning up the building still wouldnt have killed her.


    The list goes on and on.. I believe a series reset is in order to fix a lot of this nonsense.. I welcome it actually..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spimman View Post
    Syler and Peter do NOT have the same power, although they are very similar. Remember that future Peter had to learn Syler's power. While the line between their powers is blurring they are NOT the same. Power absorbion runs in the family, but they vary from father to son and son.
    It'd be nice if Kring would actually work with a plot and continuity.

    Kring has admitted that he writes for dramatic effect so both are tossed out.

    As a stand alone episode I really enjoyed this but like most of Heroes you really need to turn off your brain to enjoy the show. Sylar and Peter have different powers. In season 1 and 2 this was officially canon. Now Kring is changing canon again by writing that Sylar and Peter do indeed have the same power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airrick View Post
    #2 Hiro as a kid, no friggin way. For me Hiro went from one of the most interesting, powerful and series changing characters to a nobody. He has spent the better part of 2 seasons being the comic relief and clueless superhuman. I understand his powers are extremely strong, and in order to maintain balance they dont want give him too much information. It just makes the most sense that he would have tons of information, time travel isnt widespread as far as we know in the Heroes universe unless there is someone else out there running around changing the future and from the looks of it that couldnt be possible. I dont want to even bring up how the Speedster being able to move fast enough to interact with him is just nuts. I have seen 2 times in the show since we were informed she could move fast enough to talk, move and see what he is doing that he has still been able to stop time with her standing there and getting away with his normal carrying on. It just seems to happen when its convenient for the story progression, I hate that kind of stuff. The kid thing seems very much like most anime, the strongest character is the one that acts up, doesnt care, has no reason to be able to pull thru yet somehow someway they do.. and I hate that. The villains always spend more time learning how to use their ability while the heroes tend to not want to use their power yet they always seem to pull thru, its a common concept in writing and I hate it.. give us a hero that WANTS to use his powers to make a difference that would make the most sense.
    I never liked Hiro. I know he is a very popular character but I'd have no problem if he died.

    I also do not understand how Arthur has Hiro's power while Hiro is still able to use it. Maybe Arthur doesn't really take away power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenix View Post
    I never liked Hiro. I know he is a very popular character but I'd have no problem if he died.

    I also do not understand how Arthur has Hiro's power while Hiro is still able to use it. Maybe Arthur doesn't really take away power.
    Because he stole all of peters powers and peter had hiros power.
    I believe that he most likely just suppresses their power or weakens them to the point that the person originally has them can know longer use them at the same time he also copies them. This would explain why Syler was able to solve Elle problem and also she was able to keep her powers. He just absorb a percentage of it.

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    1. Hiro as a 10 year old? Not only that but the reference to the Hulk being red...I'm not the biggest comic book fan, is this significant?

    2. Good to see Angela back in business.

    3. Elle and Syler is slightly warped but these things happen.

    4. Not sure what to make of this eclipse.

    5. How did Peter get his powers back?

    Interesting set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the fifth man View Post
    I thought tonight's episode was pretty good. How about you guys?
    It was a lot better than Ep 8 imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_kennedy View Post
    i was expecting peter to regain his powers when he saved claire from the villains
    So was i. BUT i liked that he actually showed smarts for once.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_kennedy View Post
    i enjoyed that scene aswell

    what i wanna know is who is writing 9th wonders?
    It was explained in S1 that Issac Mendes (another precog) was the one who wrote those comics

    Quote Originally Posted by jds1982 View Post
    I gotta say that Elle seemed very quick to forgive the man who sawed her father's head off. Now granted she played a part in creating the monster (a fact which I hate), but still I think I'd wanna kill the SOB rather than snuggle up with him.
    I too felt it was a little contrived, but seeing as Sylar let her vent, with NO counters or come backs, and was very empathic, maybe that softened her a little. I also LOVED that entire scene with her letting lose and him just taking it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt G View Post
    4. Not sure what to make of this eclipse.
    S1 had an Eclipse right at the start, so did S2 right after Hiro traveled back to Japan. Heroes reborn also has an eclipse neutering powers.. So its a common theme of Eclipse equals either powers given/awaken or powers turned off..

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