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    Visit the Episode GuideHEROES SEASON THREE
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    EPISODE NUMBER - 309

    Nathan confronts his father after learning that he is still live, while Ando tries to remind Hiro of who he is after Arthur makes him think he is a 10-year-old boy. Matt takes on Arthur in an attempt to wake up Angela, and Sylar faces a vengeful Elle.

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    I thought tonight's episode was pretty good. How about you guys?

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    not too bad, all things considered, now that the characters are finally within 20 feet of each other rather than scattered all over the place

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    not bad episode

    i was expecting peter to regain his powers when he saved claire from the villains

    i figure sylar's ability absorption is triggered by empathy and so is peter's, it was just easier for peter to absorb power's

    maybe he is now immortal again?
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    if you stay in the moment it was a very very good episode but once you start to try to connect plot lines it falls apart again.

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    I really hate this Hiro as a ten year old thing although i thought it was a pretty cool idea to have him rattle off recent comic book events.

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    i enjoyed that scene aswell

    what i wanna know is who is writing 9th wonders?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_kennedy View Post
    i enjoyed that scene aswell

    what i wanna know is who is writing 9th wonders?
    Good question. And my only answer at the moment it either Arthur or the African guy or a third person.


    As for the storylines, I think once the entire season is done I got the feeling most of them will come together a lot more than people think.
    I love peter in the sewers. And I love how that it was the difference in how they were bought up that guided how peter and Syler powers developed, I thought it was pretty nice. But I love the ending where you sure the two opposing side together. And I wonder what is coming.

    The only thing I did not like was the Hiro having the mind of a ten year old back. I want the character to get serious again. And Clare being the special one was not that surprising through I thought the catalyst was gonna be the eclipse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_kennedy View Post
    i enjoyed that scene aswell

    what i wanna know is who is writing 9th wonders?
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    Good question. And my only answer at the moment it either Arthur or the African guy or a third person.
    I think it was in fact Isaac Mendez who wrote those comics. If you remember in late season 1 Isaac gave his publisher the last drafts of the 9th Wonders as well as his sketchbook, before he was killed by Sylar.

    So the comics could have been published using those pages. Plus it makes little sense why Arther and the African guy would want to draw the comics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gkyun View Post
    I think it was in fact Isaac Mendez who wrote those comics. If you remember in late season 1 Isaac gave his publisher the last drafts of the 9th Wonders as well as his sketchbook, before he was killed by Sylar.

    So the comics could have been published using those pages. Plus it makes little sense why Arther and the African guy would want to draw the comics.
    I suppose that true through but that would mean he was seeing a lot further into the future than we have been told since. Through it makes the most sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowles2 View Post
    I suppose that true through but that would mean he was seeing a lot further into the future than we have been told since. Through it makes the most sense.
    Not only further, but multiple futures since Hiros and Peter's meddling have no doubt changed some of the events.
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    i just didnt think they issac gave 9th wonders too was a pre-cog, but there was stuff that was happening like aurthor trying to mind fry hiro

    well it could have been the hiatian pre-cog i guess
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    In a recent convention appearance, Tim Kring provided some insight into the writing process for “Heroes”, and some of his frustrations. Over the course of the presentation, a number of issues emerged, many of which explain the current state of the series. As it turns out, Kring does understand some of the problems with how the story has evolved; his responses just don’t quite make the grade.

    Apparently “Villains” has been his response to the realization that several characters had become so powerful and unbeatable that some plot device was necessary to mitigate that drawback. It’s the “Superman” effect times ten, only with only one apparent source of kryptonite (the Haitian). Peter, Sylar, Claire, and Hiro were all overpowered, and the writers routinely had them make stupid decisions to ensure those powers were out of play. By the end of this episode, Peter is “normal”, Sylar is becoming another Peter, Claire is the Chosen One, and Hiro has mentally devolved into a 10-year-old (so that, of course, he has the priorities of a kid and therefore won’t just end the whole threat in a matter of seconds, as he certainly could).

    More disturbing is the contention by Kring that so many of the show’s problems have been caused by its serialized nature. On the one hand, I understand his frustrations. The show has too many divergent plot threads over the course of a volume, and by the time they come together, at least half of them have lost momentum. And like “24”, it’s all too easy to fall into patterns and become too focused on plot over character.

    Ironically, one show has struck a near-perfect balance: “Lost”. “Heroes” was supposed to be the anti-“Lost”, the show that provided better and more timely answers with more action and fan service. There’s one major difference. Early in the first season, the showrunners of “Lost” determined the road map for the series and conceived an ending. That sense of purpose has been evident, especially once the series was given a definitive end date.

    Kring admits that “Heroes” has no plan, and certainly has no ending. There is no ultimate purpose to what is happening from volume to volume. Part of the problem is the decision, driven by popularity and the network, to abandon the original premise: each season telling a new story with new characters. Once again, this is very similar to what “24” has faced. That show was also supposed to reboot every season, but thanks to the popularity of Jack Bauer, those plans were tossed aside.

    So now Kring has found himself on a series with too many characters with too much power, sticking around way too long, and with much more history and continuity than he had ever anticipated. And I think the strain is showing. It’s fashionable these days to bash “Heroes” for its faults, but that doesn’t mean it’s a bandwagon. It means that Kring has made a number of mistakes in adjusting from his original plan to the current reality, and it has taken too long for those adjustments to take effect. As he said himself, this third volume was already filmed and in the can by the time it premiered. As much as he discounts some of the criticism, he has yet to actually make changes based on the reception of “Villains” that can be seen on the screen.

    Circling back to the question of whether or not this series is too serialized: this episode is better for it. Whatever criticisms might be made about how the characters arrived in their current state, one can see the threads coming together. I had hoped that the heroes would abandon Primatech and Angela, given their questionable history, but it’s still interesting to see how the battle lines have been drawn.

    I liked Matt’s attempt to save Angela, how it intersected with Daphne’s ethical quandary and led to a moment between Angela and Arthur. It took the most obvious plot choice and turned it into something a bit more character-based, however slight. I also liked the tension between Peter and Claire, and how his time in the future factored into that. Claire’s ability is profound, yet here we see some of the limitations. And I liked Mohinder’s conflicted work on the metahuman serum, since it feels more authentic than his self-experimentation.

    Surprisingly, my favorite part had to be the interplay between Sylar and Elle. Accepting what has been revealed previously without further judgment, the scenes in this episode were quite well done (no pun intended). Kristen Bell and Zachary Quinto are both very strong, and I can accept that Sylar would run through this particular gauntlet to find some way to replicate powers without killing. It might appear to drive him firmly under Arthur’s influence, but I think it’s more likely that this will give him the courage to stand on his own.

    I don’t want the series to lose the elements that make the end of each volume so satisfying. No matter the issues that plague the continuity of the series, there is a sense of resolution. If the series lost much of its serialized nature, that strength could be lost.

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    I never thought that Hiro was overpowered. He doesn't have the mind for it (yet). I keep picturing him as this Cable-like figure, but he isn't nearly smart enough for that. For instance, I extrapolated that if Hiro can control time and space, he should be able to manipulate gravity, which could effectively give him telekinesis.
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    I gotta say that Elle seemed very quick to forgive the man who sawed her father's head off. Now granted she played a part in creating the monster (a fact which I hate), but still I think I'd wanna kill the SOB rather than snuggle up with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jds1982 View Post
    I gotta say that Elle seemed very quick to forgive the man who sawed her father's head off. Now granted she played a part in creating the monster (a fact which I hate), but still I think I'd wanna kill the SOB rather than snuggle up with him.
    Sociopaths, eh?

    Interesting episode, build up suspence for the Eclipse and brought everything together. Although, I'm wondering why Sylar & Elle are fighting with Arthur, when they've no actual incentive to (apart from Arthur being Sylar's father, there's really not other reason to stay with him).

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    Very good episode imo. Power absorbtion is clearly a Petrelli trait, and Sylar and Peter seem to have the same power, just the way that they were brought up caused it to develop in wildly different ways, I thought that was a great idea.

    Hiro as a 10 year old = No.

    Loved the end sequence, as the "teams" if you will are lining up, and it's basically gonna be a Mom vs Dad slugfest. Especially loved the way it cut from Peter to Sylar, as they're as evenly matched as you can really get.

    Don't really understand why Elle is with Arthur, he had her chained up and let the guy that killed her father in the room. No idea why Sylar is with him either really, as it seemed that Angela cared for him more than Arthur has been shown to.

    Can not wait for next episode. Heroes is good again, I'm enjoying this as much as I enjoyed season 1, hopefully they can keep this up.

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    Fantastic episode i have to say. The whole eclipse thing is so interesting and I want to know why Arthur is so afraid by it.

    Theres only two problems I have with the characters: First of all i don't like the new inhumane version of Suresh that’s just stupid and i just don't like him as a villain.

    Secondly, Hiro as a 10 year old boy. This is all up to the writers because they can either make this change fantastic and interesting or it can just get boring and annoying. I hope for the sake of the show, and one of the best characters, that it does turn out ok.

    I have to admit I like Syler as the semi evil guy although i have to admit it would be awesome to have him and Peter working side by side to take down Arthur.

    Finally, where is the Haitian got to? He is potentially the most powerful character on the show and he should have a major role in these events. I don't understand why Arthur would not have chased after him because he knows what he is capable and he must want to get revenge on him because he did help with his attempted murder.
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    The teams seem a little lopsided with Arthur/Gabriel/Elle on one side. My guess is Gabriel showing compassion and turning on Arthur when Arthur hurts/kills someone. Wonder what Gabriel's reaction will be when finding out that Arthur freed his "evil mother" Angela.

    I also think that the big battle will not matter much because the eclipse will wipe out most of the powers, doing a series reset that Kring seems to want.

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    i don't know why everyone loved this ep, i considered it mediocre, and the final scene with claire made me want to kringe (geddit?)
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