The best chance for a big screen SG movie

[Blistna]

All right guys, here me out.

First off, why should it be? Because first of all, it would give more viewers to the tv franchise, more players for the game(s), and be best over-all so we can have more content. We will have a better chance of having a seven season Universe or longer if MGM and Sci Fi thinks the show can last, which it will if we add more viewers. And for MGM...they have only one big franchise, and thats Bond. They need another.

Second, the biggest chance would be Atlantis, because everyone knows Atlantis, or an SG-1 movie that deals with something like the Mayan's (Furlings anyone?) or something everyone knows. It will get people into to see it just for that, and hopefully love the ride they get watching the movie.

However, I believe a re-cut of Atlantis's pilot would do good. Maybe even a re-shooting. Add more to the start, telling a little more about who these ancients are (which actually could be in any part of the movie). And release that DVD movie right when a new Atlantis story is going to the big screen, and in the ad for the new movie say, "And also see: Stargate Atlantis Rising" or something like that. That would be best, I think, because people who never heard of "Stargate" or never knew what it is might be compelled to watch it because it has "cool special effects" and it's about Atlantis. I being an Atlantis fan, would love to know more about it (assuming I wasn't a Stargate fan) and would go watch both the DVD movie and the Big Screen one, even buy the season DVD's and see what happened with the show.

What u guys think?

[Daniel Jackson]

...so we can have more content.

More movies? It takes a longer time and more money to make a theatrical movie, so I'd say fewer movies with a multi-year wait between films.

We will have a better chance of having a seven season Universe or longer if MGM and Sci Fi thinks the show can last

Atlantis was cancelled so they could make movies and Universe. Ratings and longevity had nothing to do with cancellation.

And for MGM...they have only one big franchise, and thats Bond. They need another.

MGM already considers Stargate #2 to James Bond.

Second, the biggest chance would be Atlantis, because everyone knows Atlantis, or an SG-1 movie that deals with something like the Mayan's (Furlings anyone?) or something everyone knows. It will get people into to see it just for that, and hopefully love the ride they get watching the movie.

I'm sorry, but Stargate is not as widely known as you think. In real life, I know scifi geeks who like the show. Those who aren't scifi geeks have only seen a few episodes or never heard of it. If a theatrical movie were being made, people would expect a sequel to the 1994 movie. People aren't likely to go see a movie based on a show they didn't watch. That is why the SG-1 movies were straight-to-video.

However, I believe a re-cut of Atlantis's pilot would do good. Maybe even a re-shooting.

Entirely unnecessary.

And release that DVD movie right when a new Atlantis story is going to the big screen, and in the ad for the new movie say, "And also see: Stargate Atlantis Rising" or something like that. That would be best, I think, because people who never heard of "Stargate" or never knew what it is might be compelled to watch it because it has "cool special effects" and it's about Atlantis. I being an Atlantis fan, would love to know more about it (assuming I wasn't a Stargate fan) and would go watch both the DVD movie and the Big Screen one, even buy the season DVD's and see what happened with the show.

If people are that unaware of the show, the movie would fail at the theater. It's much more practical to make a smaller budget straight-to-video movie.

[Xylian]

More movies? It takes a longer time and more money to make a theatrical movie, so I'd say fewer movies with a multi-year wait between films.

Having a theatrical movie doesn't mean they won't have dvd movies too.

Atlantis was cancelled so they could make movies and Universe. Ratings and longevity had nothing to do with cancellation.

Have to agree on that, though a seven seasons of Universe would be nice.

MGM already considers Stargate #2 to James Bond.

James Bond sucks.

I'm sorry, but Stargate is not as widely known as you think. In real life, I know scifi geeks who like the show. Those who aren't scifi geeks have only seen a few episodes or never heard of it. If a theatrical movie were being made, people would expect a sequel to the 1994 movie. People aren't likely to go see a movie based on a show they didn't watch. That is why the SG-1 movies were straight-to-video.

First off, if people don't know about the shows, then they probably don't even know about the original movie. Second off, the stargate movies straight dvd because of a) low budget b) They weren't meant to be for everyone, only for fans.

Entirely unnecessary.

I wouldn't say that, okay maybe I would say that.

If people are that unaware of the show, the movie would fail at the theater. It's much more practical to make a smaller budget straight-to-video movie.

Not really. Having a lot of people unaware of the show won't make it fail. As long as the movie is good enough, it would be successful.

[Anubis10545]

Actually, a re-cut version or re-filmed version of "Rising" doesn't sound like that bad of an idea if made into an actual movie.

[Jack_Bauer]

Actually, a re-cut version or re-filmed version of "Rising" doesn't sound like that bad of an idea if made into an actual movie.

it sounds like a terrible way to grow the franchise and ass to the series in my opinion

[nxcalibur]

I also think a recut or refilming of Rising is unnecessary. I would like to see a story ark concerning the Ancients. Maybe as a trilogy: Ancients on Earth, when they had to leave Earth due to the plague. Part two, arrival in Pegasus and the creation of the Wraith and finally the departure back to Milky Way. That could shed some light on still open questions. Although this project would certainly blow the budget and it requires a rather big amount of background information on Stargate which ultimately means it would only be made for fans.
And concerning SG-1 I say it is pretty much the same. There have been too many events in these 10 seasons to attract new audience. Best chance of getting new audience might be SGU. Those who start watching SGU maybe are interested in the events that led to whatever happens in the show so they start watching SG-1 and SGA as well, at least on DVD.

[Anon]

the re-due of rising is extremely unnecessary, the shows premiere got a 6.3. now you might say that that rating is more reason to make a movie, but it would be straight to dvd and all the fans have already seen it soo an unnecessary spending of 10 million.

[Darth Windu]

IF this was going to be done, basing it on Atlantis would be a horrible idea. I know plenty of people who enjoy Stargate SG-1 for its combination of realism and mythology. Atlantis on the other hand is far more sci-fi than SG-1, so you'd be looking to cater towards a more specialised audience.

[Blistna]

More movies? It takes a longer time and more money to make a theatrical movie, so I'd say fewer movies with a multi-year wait between films.


Atlantis was cancelled so they could make movies and Universe. Ratings and longevity had nothing to do with cancellation.


MGM already considers Stargate #2 to James Bond.


I'm sorry, but Stargate is not as widely known as you think. In real life, I know scifi geeks who like the show. Those who aren't scifi geeks have only seen a few episodes or never heard of it. If a theatrical movie were being made, people would expect a sequel to the 1994 movie. People aren't likely to go see a movie based on a show they didn't watch. That is why the SG-1 movies were straight-to-video.


Entirely unnecessary.


If people are that unaware of the show, the movie would fail at the theater. It's much more practical to make a smaller budget straight-to-video movie.

Ok you have taken everything I said and twisted it man. First off, CONTENT does not mean MOVIES. CONTENT does not translate into MOVIES. Let me explain the theory. As we both agree, SG-1 is not widely known. That means Stargate Worlds has a slim chance of actually selling enough to keep it alive. Same with any SG game. The tv series will do good by itself, and do reassembly better with DVD movies, but if there was a big screen release with a big advertising budget, then the tv series and the video game series (MORE CONTENT) would have more of a chance to keep going and get renuel and another show after Universe. Which really, the next TV show is going to get the OK, but another game wont if Worlds and the next game don't do well. Honestly, they shouldn't have done a MMO for the first one. But thats just my opinion. You see? More people know about the series, the more people would be willing to play the game and watch the show. DVD movies won't do that, as we have seen, because as you said yourself, SG-1 isn't widely known. Even with two movies out, hardly anyone knows about it. And how many ppl know about Star Trek? Oh wait, thats because there's movies! How much you wanna bet if they never made movies, the show wouldn't be as popular and widely known otherwise.

And I never said SG-1 is widely known, i said Atlantis is widely known. You know, like the REAL legend of Atlantis. Go and ask people about, and even non-sci fi geeks will tell ya, "Yea I heard of the lost city of Atlantis. Don't believe in it, but yea, I've heard of it". And i bet if you ask most of them, they would like to have an adventure telling a possible reason for the city and why no one can find it on Earth. There are lots of people who like to hear something familiar, like the lost city of Atlantis, and hear a sci fi twist on it. In fact, thats why SG-1 has done so well.

Atlantis was cancelled so they could make movies and Universe. Ratings and longevity had nothing to do with cancellation.

Yep, very true. However if Universe is spotting a lot more viewers, they might actually let the show go one longer because of the amount of viewers.

MGM already considers Stargate #2 to James Bond

Never said they didn't consider it. In fact, I said this:

And for MGM...they have only one big franchise, and thats Bond. They need another.

They consider it the second biggest franchise and with your own words:

I'm sorry, but Stargate is not as widely known as you think. In real life, I know scifi geeks who like the show. Those who aren't scifi geeks have only seen a few episodes or never heard of it.

Ask those same non-sci fi geeks if they heard of James Bond, I bet you'd get a yes. My point exactly. SG-1 is not as widely known as James Bond. As Star Trek. As Chronicles of Riddick. And that movie was basically a bust. As XXX -- another bust. I can keep going. So, is SG-1 a big franchise? Maybe for MGM it's the second biggest franchise they have, but compared to other names it's nothing. I mean really man, Stating that MGM considers this their second biggest franchise, while is true, is like saying I came second in a race. And there was only two people in the race. You'll still last, even if you were second...

Entirely unnecessary. (about the re-release of Atlantis pilot)

People aren't likely to go see a movie based on a show they didn't watch. That is why the SG-1 movies were straight-to-video.

You hit the nail. You hit the nail right on the spot. However, you said something..hmm...a lot of people hardly heard of the show or never did? And I bet they have never heard of Atlantis. However, they have heard of the LOST CITY OF ATLANTIS. This presents them with a great chance. To show a lot of cool battles, with ships and on land. To show some cool looking alien, create an amazing story, and make you want to watch it in the trailer...then say at the end "Stargate Atlantis CHAOS WARS" and with the text, "Also see Stargate Atlantis Rising now on DVD".

That way they get a basic jist of who and what the Wraith are (assuming the Wraith are in the show) and that way they can know why and how we got to another galaxy. Then in the big screen movie, do your thing and make the movie amazing. You said it wasn't necessary, but you yourself said SG-1 wasn't known and that hardly anyone will watch a movie of a TV show they never seen before. So then it is necessary! Jeez, man, I know you don't want these movies but don't make stupid arguments. And don't agree with me when your saying you don't.

If people are that unaware of the show, the movie would fail at the theater. It's much more practical to make a smaller budget straight-to-video movie.

Are you so sure about that? Star Trek made tons of movies, yet how known was it back in the days of Kirk? And we know they have tons of fans for the show who buy the movies, because both Ark of Truth and Continuum sold very well, more then MGM thought it would. Don't believe me? Both Micheal Shanks and Brad Wright said the movie sales cought everyone off gaurd. That means they did well. And remember, SG-1 lasted longer then any science fiction tv series ever has, and that is saying something. And most movies don't make any money until they get to DVD anyway.

Listen, I know you want tons of stories of your favorite characters. I do to. However I also want more video games. And I know historically, MMO's don't do to well. I mean, they stopped the Star Wars one. The Matrix didn't do well, and The Matrix had more fans then Stargate. Worlds is going to fail, no matter how good it is. I also want Universe to do amazingly well when it comes to ratings. And I want more TV shows, and for them to surpirse everyone in the ratings. I'm a franchise fan as well as a story fan, and I believe the best for the franchise is to make a big screen movie. They have to do everything right, but I believe they can.

And I'm not talking about SG-1 movies, it would be harder to make the name SG-1 and market that to a huge audiance of ppl who don't want anything to do with SG-1. However Atlantis, that name is big just because of all the people who are LOOKING for Atlantis. So that, they can work with. And there are tons of writers and producers for the show. And as far as I am concerned, I think Brad has been busy with SG-1 and the movies and only produced Atlantis, haven't written many episodes for the show. That means the writers for the Atlantis series could make a big screen movie, while Brad works on SG-1 movies. And there are different sets and different characters for each respected series. They could pull off a dvd movie every year, with a big screen Atlantis movie every two years (give or take), and a Universe show, and even video games. Tons of CONTENT for us to love.

I also think a recut or refilming of Rising is unnecessary. I would like to see a story ark concerning the Ancients. Maybe as a trilogy: Ancients on Earth, when they had to leave Earth due to the plague. Part two, arrival in Pegasus and the creation of the Wraith and finally the departure back to Milky Way. That could shed some light on still open questions. Although this project would certainly blow the budget and it requires a rather big amount of background information on Stargate which ultimately means it would only be made for fans.
And concerning SG-1 I say it is pretty much the same. There have been too many events in these 10 seasons to attract new audience. Best chance of getting new audience might be SGU. Those who start watching SGU maybe are interested in the events that led to whatever happens in the show so they start watching SG-1 and SGA as well, at least on DVD.

I explain above why I think it will be a good idea. And I'm just saying release it as a DVD movie, it would be dumb to make it into a Big Screen movie. And I'd love to see that story too, but Brad has made it clear Stargate is about us in the here and now. So that wont happen. Maybe a game though? Hehe I dunno...

And exactly! Thats why Atlantis is the perfect match for it to hit the big screen. It would be perfect! There has been a lot, but depending on the story it may not even deal with the Wraith, but a new threat (like the new baddies this season). And thats why I think a re-cut or a re-release of Rising (Actually, after I posted that I did see you can buy Rising on DVD..so then just advertise that when you make the big screen movie...you wouldn't even HAVE to re-cut it).

IF this was going to be done, basing it on Atlantis would be a horrible idea. I know plenty of people who enjoy Stargate SG-1 for its combination of realism and mythology. Atlantis on the other hand is far more sci-fi than SG-1, so you'd be looking to cater towards a more specialised audience.

On that one, I agree. But I still think Atlantis has the best chance of making it. It might not win any awards, but it will be a good summer flick to watch. :-) And the "Lost City of Altantis" is a big enough name to get some more people who do want to hear the story.

[katikatnik]

I would prefer if there wasn't one. If they had to throw this much money into one Stargate the Series related project, they would have to cut the cost somewhere else. They would not be willing to spread themselves too thin on one franchise. And what would be the obvious choice? Definitely not their new and shiny pet project SGU. They would stop filming or cut seriously back the DVD movies. And as Joe Mallozzi said, now they would be able to do three movies a year, SG-1 or SGA, four would be pushing it. So, they would make one a year, either SG-1 or SGA, or none and wait until the blockbuster is out. Such a movie takes up to a year or even longer to finish with all the special effects etc. And if it turned out to be a flop, it would bury any chance of getting anything else because nobody would be willing to risk throwing money into it anymore.

So yeah, I would very much prefer to get two SG-1 and two SGA direct-to-DVD movies. And I think that TPTB too, considering that The Ark of Truth and Continuum's cost returned within a month after their release.

[Cheystar]

There is some type of legality involving the makers of the Orignal movie with Kurt Russell and James Spader. I can't remember where I read it, but they have the rights to put up another Stargate movie before anyone else.

[Blistna]

There is some type of legality involving the makers of the Orignal movie with Kurt Russell and James Spader. I can't remember where I read it, but they have the rights to put up another Stargate movie before anyone else.

Really...then how is it MGM has all ready made two direct to dvd movies? Or does those count?

[jenks]

Really...then how is it MGM has all ready made two direct to dvd movies? Or does those count?

Those don't count, it's to do with theatrical releases. I've read it too.

[Blistna]

Those don't count, it's to do with theatrical releases. I've read it too.

Ah....well in that case...that sucks. :/ Oh well! We wont be having a big screen movie of Stargate until these things are cleared up. If they ever will be :/