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    Yes, I feel like every time I've gone to login this week it's been weird. I got in one day, but couldn't get to the last page or respond? Dunno.

    Hey JT2, I don't remember if you have Netflix, but I finally watched season 2 of Lost in Space and saw Sakina Jaffrey aka Denise Christopher from Timeless. She didn't get a ton of screen time, but it reminded me of her timeless role, trying to keep everyone in line .
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    Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Fluffy Thursday!

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    Looks like they messed up the cables quite good... they changed the whole place, and not all for the better.
    Quote Originally Posted by JT-2 View Post
    Yeah, things are in different places now. Wonder why they changed it.
    Weird, it doesn't look any different to me...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zandra's Ashes View Post
    Yes, I feel like every time I've gone to login this week it's been weird. I got in one day, but couldn't get to the last page or respond? Dunno.
    Yep, that's what happened to me a couple of weeks ago. Must be some sort of rolling bug, not everyone gets it at the same time...
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    Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT-2 View Post
    Yeah, things are in different places now. Wonder why they changed it.
    I suggest you read the new Gateworld Forum Vision 2020 -- they have an image problem they're trying to fix. They just made it worse, in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scary Kitty View Post
    Weird, it doesn't look any different to me...
    Wait, you don't see the new lay-out?

    They changed the different sections and subsections and closed down some threads, and archived others that haven't been active in AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAges...

    In the name of curtailing free speech, real-life politics and religion are no longer welcome on the forum so the two most active threads in off-topic were closed down.

    I expect activity to dwindle and I fear, Thing 1 and 2 won't ever see us cheering them on in The Continued Adventures of Thing 1 & Thing 2...

    I don't want to loose all my GW-friends, which happens to include all the people in OT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zandra's Ashes View Post
    Yes, I feel like every time I've gone to login this week it's been weird. I got in one day, but couldn't get to the last page or respond? Dunno.

    Hey JT2, I don't remember if you have Netflix, but I finally watched season 2 of Lost in Space and saw Sakina Jaffrey aka Denise Christopher from Timeless. She didn't get a ton of screen time, but it reminded me of her timeless role, trying to keep everyone in line .
    Thanks for letting me know!


    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    I suggest you read the new Gateworld Forum Vision 2020 -- they have an image problem they're trying to fix. They just made it worse, in my opinion.



    Wait, you don't see the new lay-out?

    They changed the different sections and subsections and closed down some threads, and archived others that haven't been active in AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAges...

    In the name of curtailing free speech, real-life politics and religion are no longer welcome on the forum so the two most active threads in off-topic were closed down.

    I expect activity to dwindle and I fear, Thing 1 and 2 won't ever see us cheering them on in The Continued Adventures of Thing 1 & Thing 2...

    I don't want to loose all my GW-friends, which happens to include all the people in OT.
    Ah, I'll check that out. I'm sorry they closed down your threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT-2 View Post
    Ah, I'll check that out. I'm sorry they closed down your threads.
    Yeah well...

    I'll finish my rewatch, and after that I don't know... We'll be 10 years later and Gateworld might not even be in existence by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    Yeah well...

    I'll finish my rewatch, and after that I don't know... We'll be 10 years later and Gateworld might not even be in existence by then.
    I just read it. Seems a little late to say that same-sex pairings are okay.

    I am wondering if they're trying to cut expenses... if those threads are the most active, then shutting them down cuts costs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT-2 View Post
    I just read it. Seems a little late to say that same-sex pairings are okay.
    Far too late, and feeble at best.

    Quote Originally Posted by JT-2 View Post
    I am wondering if they're trying to cut expenses... if those threads are the most active, then shutting them down cuts costs?
    What costs?

    The only thing it'll cost them is members... and that might just include me at this point.

    I feel a certain disrespect towards the oldies in favor of the newbies, and in that regard, if you don't respect the old, you don't deserve the new either (=> literal Dutch translation).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    What costs?

    The only thing it'll cost them is members... and that might just include me at this point.

    I feel a certain disrespect towards the oldies in favor of the newbies, and in that regard, if you don't respect the old, you don't deserve the new either (=> literal Dutch translation).
    Well, domain names and server space, etc? Idk.

    I hear what you're saying, though. I think we've always been nice to newbies if they wander in here. *shrugs*

    That said - if there any lurkers, come on out. We don't bite. Much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT-2 View Post
    Well, domain names and server space, etc? Idk.
    I've maintained a website once -- that's not costing you a fortune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    I've maintained a website once -- that's not costing you a fortune.
    Oh, okay. Then I'm just really confused as to why they made those changes. The place was already dying down. I rarely venture outside this thread anymore, though, so maybe there were problems in other places?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT-2 View Post
    Oh, okay. Then I'm just really confused as to why they made those changes. The place was already dying down. I rarely venture outside this thread anymore, though, so maybe there were problems in other places?
    The problem is Gateworld's reputation of being highly intolerant of opposing viewpoints, of being homophobic and transphobic, and of not stepping in when people are deliberately hateful of others.

    Things that even for our warzone were far out of line -- we were self-moderating because the mods rarely stepped in.

    I was surprised to learn a while back how many members no longer post here because of the lack of inclusion and tolerance towards, among other things same-sex relationships (which do feature in Stargate on a small scale -- SGU and SGO), and the lack of moderation in other areas.

    It's more to do with Gateworld's image to the outside fandom world, and hoping that some might return and attract newbies to keep the place on its feet but with no new stargate there's only so much you can continue to talk about.

    I don't know...

    I personally think that Gateworld is trying to salvage a sinking ship... Who knows maybe they'll stay afloat? Maybe they won't. Nothing lasts forever.

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    Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Pretty Friday!

    Quote Originally Posted by JT-2 View Post
    Oh, okay. Then I'm just really confused as to why they made those changes. The place was already dying down. I rarely venture outside this thread anymore, though, so maybe there were problems in other places?
    Same here, I only ever come to this thread now, so I guess that's why I haven't noticed anything different.

    I can understand wanting to "get back to basics," as it were, and refocus on the reason for the site's existence--Stargate--but with no new content/merch to discuss... Yeah, I don't see how restricting discussion topics is necessarily a good thing. Well, I guess we'll see how this all pans out.
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    Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.

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    Same here, I only ever come to this thread now, so I guess that's why I haven't noticed anything different.
    You need to get out more...

    Quote Originally Posted by Scary Kitty View Post
    I can understand wanting to "get back to basics," as it were, and refocus on the reason for the site's existence--Stargate--but with no new content/merch to discuss... Yeah, I don't see how restricting discussion topics is necessarily a good thing. Well, I guess we'll see how this all pans out.
    I think, if I may make a prediction, that without new stargate the forum is doomed to die a slow death.

    I mean, the forum's been bleeding members since the shows ended. There was a slight uptick with Origins, but after that too went away, so did the posting.

    And let's face it, forums are a thing of the passed. I think if you look at the average age on Gateworld that you would end up in the 35 to 45 range -- people who used message boards and forums to communicate for the longest time -- and for whom the limited characters of other social media feels restrictive.

    We're basically a dying breed.

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    Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Pretty Friday!



    Same here, I only ever come to this thread now, so I guess that's why I haven't noticed anything different.

    I can understand wanting to "get back to basics," as it were, and refocus on the reason for the site's existence--Stargate--but with no new content/merch to discuss... Yeah, I don't see how restricting discussion topics is necessarily a good thing. Well, I guess we'll see how this all pans out.

    I only come here also and haven't even looked anywhere else for maybe a year until yesterday. I don't see any difference either but understand the need to get rid of places nobody ever goes.

    On the free speech thing, I think the last thing they want is free speech unless it's politically correct. True free speech will be chaos because some people can't handle anyone who disagrees with them.

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    You need to get out more...



    I think, if I may make a prediction, that without new stargate the forum is doomed to die a slow death.

    I mean, the forum's been bleeding members since the shows ended. There was a slight uptick with Origins, but after that too went away, so did the posting.

    And let's face it, forums are a thing of the passed. I think if you look at the average age on Gateworld that you would end up in the 35 to 45 range -- people who used message boards and forums to communicate for the longest time -- and for whom the limited characters of other social media feels restrictive.

    We're basically a dying breed.
    I'm surprised it's lasted this long frankly. Look at us. We seldom talk about the show but we enjoy sharing our lives. I have loved being able to interact with people from other countries and other areas of belief and thought. I don't know why everyone can't show each other the grace that we do.
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    Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Sparky!Family Saturday!

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    You need to get out more...


    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Red View Post
    On the free speech thing, I think the last thing they want is free speech unless it's politically correct. True free speech will be chaos because some people can't handle anyone who disagrees with them.
    Indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    I think, if I may make a prediction, that without new stargate the forum is doomed to die a slow death.

    I mean, the forum's been bleeding members since the shows ended. There was a slight uptick with Origins, but after that too went away, so did the posting.

    And let's face it, forums are a thing of the passed. I think if you look at the average age on Gateworld that you would end up in the 35 to 45 range -- people who used message boards and forums to communicate for the longest time -- and for whom the limited characters of other social media feels restrictive.

    We're basically a dying breed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Red View Post
    I'm surprised it's lasted this long frankly. Look at us. We seldom talk about the show but we enjoy sharing our lives. I have loved being able to interact with people from other countries and other areas of belief and thought. I don't know why everyone can't show each other the grace that we do.
    I think you're both right. This place has evolved away from it's original focus, and it's only us stubborn curmudgeons who have kept the home fires burning, so to speak.

    Surely, we'll gravitate toward other social media if this place goes down. Quite a few of us are on Tumblr, there's Pillowfort trying to pick up steam (kind of a cross between the best of LiveJournal/Dreamwidth and the best of Tumblr), and there are other forums for other fandoms and interests still going strong. It just won't be the same.
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    Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Red View Post
    On the free speech thing, I think the last thing they want is free speech unless it's politically correct. True free speech will be chaos because some people can't handle anyone who disagrees with them.
    It's actually quite ironic that whole "free speech" thing. It's one the things we talked about in the politics threads on more than one occasion, and it always came down to it being free up to a point because someone's always going to stifle it, or restrict it.

    However, we always agreed that people can say whatever they want but others have the right to ignore them and not listen. Doesn't mean you have to agree to disagree, you can just not listen and go about your own way. Nobody's forcing anyone to listen to everyone so there...

    I think... anyway...

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Red View Post
    I'm surprised it's lasted this long frankly. Look at us. We seldom talk about the show but we enjoy sharing our lives. I have loved being able to interact with people from other countries and other areas of belief and thought. I don't know why everyone can't show each other the grace that we do.
    I absolutely adore all you guys!!

    I think about you people often in my daily lives and I'm telling my sister about Thing 1 and Thing 2. About you folks.
    You are a part of my life now. You are a part of my dysfunctional online family and I .... love you to pieces and would miss you very much if you weren't here anymore.

    So... err... what's up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scary Kitty View Post
    ...there's Pillowfort ...
    The name alone.

    Googles it immediately.

    Edit

    For anyone interested: Pillowfort.social

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    It seems to be in open beta right now, which does require a 5 dollar payment to enter it:

    Joining Pillowfort is easy! For a one-time $5 registration fee you will gain access to our open beta.

    This one-time fee helps us pay our expenses such as server costs and compensating our development & support team while we develop our long-term business plan. Registration will be free once we exit open beta.

    Pillowfort is committed to keeping our user-experience a priority and not being beholden to outside interests. That is why we chose to be a primarily user-funded platform without any financial assistance from investors or venture capital funding.
    So it's not yet another option.

    I'm on Dreamwidth though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    It's actually quite ironic that whole "free speech" thing. It's one the things we talked about in the politics threads on more than one occasion, and it always came down to it being free up to a point because someone's always going to stifle it, or restrict it.

    However, we always agreed that people can say whatever they want but others have the right to ignore them and not listen. Doesn't mean you have to agree to disagree, you can just not listen and go about your own way. Nobody's forcing anyone to listen to everyone so there...

    I think... anyway...
    I took a look at that politics thread and ran like the wind. Personal insults and ignorance do not attract me. If you're an American read the flipping Constitution why don't you and don't pontificate if you aren't 100% sure of your facts. Opinion depends on who you believe but historical facts are not in dispute. (I specifically was horrified at what some believe about the Presidential line of succession.) And then there were those who insult other people's religion. The free expression clause is there for a reason. So maybe Gateworld could have a little talk with some of those people. I don't think free speech means what they think it means. Discernment is an important part of any free society, so I exercise mine by ignoring those who insult my beliefs. I wish everybody did.

    I absolutely adore all you guys!!
    HUGS!!!


    I'm not interested in broadening my social media presence, so if this thread closes we'll have to part ways. Thing 1 and Thing 2 will miss you. BTW, they had their first visit to the ice cream store yesterday. They got chocolate. Enough said.

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    BTW, they had their first visit to the ice cream store yesterday. They got chocolate. Enough said.
    Oh... do tell...

    Let me guess, they put the washer to the test and see if it was able to clean their chocolate stained clothes.

    For the record, that's what I would do. Put those washing soap adverts to the ultimate test.

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    Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Lazy Sunday!

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    I absolutely adore all you guys!!

    I think about you people often in my daily lives and I'm telling my sister about Thing 1 and Thing 2. About you folks.
    You are a part of my life now. You are a part of my dysfunctional online family and I .... love you to pieces and would miss you very much if you weren't here anymore.

    So... err... what's up?
    *HUGS YOU* I know, right? I'd miss all of you terribly. Gotta be a way to keep as many of us together as we can...



    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    The name alone.

    Googles it immediately.

    Edit

    For anyone interested: Pillowfort.social

    Edit 2
    It seems to be in open beta right now, which does require a 5 dollar payment to enter it:



    So it's not yet another option.

    I'm on Dreamwidth though.
    Or...if you know someone on Pillowfort (like me), we can make 3 free invite codes a week... PM me!

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Red View Post
    I'm not interested in broadening my social media presence, so if this thread closes we'll have to part ways. Thing 1 and Thing 2 will miss you. BTW, they had their first visit to the ice cream store yesterday. They got chocolate. Enough said.
    You'll still be on Facebook though, right? *wibbles*

    OMG the twins.

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    Oh... do tell...

    Let me guess, they put the washer to the test and see if it was able to clean their chocolate stained clothes.

    For the record, that's what I would do. Put those washing soap adverts to the ultimate test.
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    Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.

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