Groundbase Asgard beam or other weapon for Atlantis

[ckwongau]

The Ancient drone weapon were probably one of the most powerful weapon ever invented by the ancient.
Atlantis 's Ancient control chair and drone wepoan probably can defend the city pretty well.

But we can't create drone weapon, the drone supply will eventually runs out,and remember when the Wraith was on the way to Earth,IOA believe the Antractica weapon (with thousands of drone)can handle the Wraith invasion ,but it would use up the remaining drone supply.

In episode Daedulas variation, in ther alternative reality the Alien was bombing other Atlantis city,It was our SGA team using the Damage AR daedulas 's Asgard beam that save that Atlantis.

Why didn't the other Atlantis use Drone weapon?May be they run of of drone ,or not enough power for the chair.

But if we are going to met the DV's alien one day, may be we should build other ground base weapon to defend the city,to conserve and not to over relay on the drone weapon.

I thing we should build a ground base Asgard beam , may be build new generator , so it can conserve ZPM.

Or build another ground base ancient beam weapon like the orbital platform.It can power by a small naqahdah generator, it's continually building up a charge in some kind of a buffer, or a capacitor, until it's discharged.

Or we could have a lot of missile , who know if we fire hundred of them one may get though

[Andru10]

1) The Asgard beam weapons probably loose much of their intensity when fired from such a long distance and most of that distance is the planet's atomsphere that absorbs the beam's energy.
2) We probably don't have the technology to build a beam weapon like the Ancient Satellite Weapon.
3) Missiles can be shot down easily and we saw in No Man's Land that a nuke doesn't do much damage to a Hiveship (the ship in DV is probably much much more resistent than a Hiveship). Not to mention that nukes are weaker in space than on a planet with an atmosphere.
4) Even if they built a ground to space weapon unless there are a lot of them on the planet's surface and they are extremely powerful (like the Tollan Ion Cannons) they can be destroyed fairly easy by a ship from orbit.
5) If the Wraith are passing through that system, by any chance, and detect the ground base weapons they would send more ships to investigate and Atlantis might be compromised. (same problem with building satellite weapons)

A solution would be to make submerge-able weapons platforms on the ocean that could sink if a Wraith ship is in the area and resurface later. But there is still the problem of creating an effective ground to space weapon.

[stargater1990]

1) The Asgard beam weapons probably loose much of their intensity when fired from such a long distance and most of that distance is the planet's atomsphere that absorbs the beam's energy.
2) We probably don't have the technology to build a beam weapon like the Ancient Satellite Weapon.
3) Missiles can be shot down easily and we saw in No Man's Land that a nuke doesn't do much damage to a Hiveship (the ship in DV is probably much much more resistent than a Hiveship). Not to mention that nukes are weaker in space than on a planet with an atmosphere.
4) Even if they built a ground to space weapon unless there are a lot of them on the planet's surface and they are extremely powerful (like the Tollan Ion Cannons) they can be destroyed fairly easy by a ship from orbit.
5) If the Wraith are passing through that system, by any chance, and detect the ground base weapons they would send more ships to investigate and Atlantis might be compromised. (same problem with building satellite weapons)

A solution would be to make submerge-able weapons platforms on the ocean that could sink if a Wraith ship is in the area and resurface later. But there is still the problem of creating an effective ground to space weapon.

why not put them on atlantis that way they would be protected by a shield when in use and cloaked when not in use.

[thekillman]

the nuke in no mans land did alot of damage.

[freyr's mother]

the nuke in no mans land did alot of damage.

They shouldnt though. Nukes dont really work in space because there is no medium for the pressure and heat waves to travel through.


They're too stupid to realize that they could put asgard beams on atlantis. Its like the characters play stupid. Yeah they're smart as hell, but overlook ideas that would give them an edge.

[thekillman]

the nuke most likely penetrated, then exploded. and of a 1GT nuke, a few megatons of energy would certainly do damage. or as mckay put it:
"im having trouble FINDING something to blow up"

[Aer'ki]

You're all forgetting that Atlantis DOES have other weapons beside the drones.

In "the Siege" McKay says that "Atlantis has a number of defensive systems besides the shield"(paraphrasing a bit, sorry I don't remember exact words). He definitely said it in the plural. So, drones count for one...where are the others? With a ZPM Atlantis should be able to use some of these 'other defenses'.

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Originally Posted by thekillman
the nuke in no mans land did alot of damage.

They shouldnt though. Nukes dont really work in space because there is no medium for the pressure and heat waves to travel through.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for pointing this out. I thought I was the only one who realized this.

[Gen. Nuke]

Maybe a Nuclear Sub with an Asgard Beam Weapons will do the Job... The sub will just go to the surface if it will fire the weapons.

I think the Asgard beam weapons lack range.

[Anubis-]

They could put Asgard beab weapon's to puddle jumper.

[Buba uognarf]

Its just one of those things that we should do but won't. There's a million things the Wraith should do but don't too so it balances out...

[Andru10]

the nuke most likely penetrated, then exploded. and of a 1GT nuke, a few megatons of energy would certainly do damage. or as mckay put it:
"im having trouble FINDING something to blow up"

Yeah he said that... but the Hive still had weapons and hyperdrive (since the team was able to return to Atlantis. It may have been damaged but not much since they obviously repaired it).

[Mister Oragahn]

They should make asgard beam rifles.

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[Andru10]

They could put Asgard beab weapon's to puddle jumper.

It might be posible to put one beam weapon on a Puddle Jumper (since the jumper has enough power for a mini-hyperdrive as we saw in a previous epidose). But it will probably be able to fire only a few shots before it loses power and the ship will probably be less maneuverable because of the extra weight.

[Crazy Tom]

You're all forgetting that Atlantis DOES have other weapons beside the drones.

In "the Siege" McKay says that "Atlantis has a number of defensive systems besides the shield"(paraphrasing a bit, sorry I don't remember exact words). He definitely said it in the plural. So, drones count for one...where are the others? With a ZPM Atlantis should be able to use some of these 'other defenses'.



Thank you, thank you, thank you for pointing this out. I thought I was the only one who realized this.

Most likely a miniaturised satelite wepon like the one seen in Trinity.

[talyn2k1]

You're all forgetting that Atlantis DOES have other weapons beside the drones.

In "the Siege" McKay says that "Atlantis has a number of defensive systems besides the shield"(paraphrasing a bit, sorry I don't remember exact words). He definitely said it in the plural. So, drones count for one...where are the others? With a ZPM Atlantis should be able to use some of these 'other defenses'.



Thank you, thank you, thank you for pointing this out. I thought I was the only one who realized this.

Keyword there is defensive.
Shields are a defensive system.
Drones are offensive as is any other weapon.

So all McKay said was that there are other defensive systems besides the shields, what these are I don't know, but weapons definitely fall under the category of offensive systems.