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    How many addresses can one given gate dial?

    How many can it dial?

    The way I figure is that in our universe (seven chevrons) it can dial:

    6 (chevrons in an address) x 37 (chevrons that aren't the PoO) which gives us 222 addresses for the MW galaxy.
    I've seen it said on these boards that you would take 6 x 6 x 37 which would give you 1332, and that would be true if you were trying to find all possible combinations of chevrons 1-37. But say ABCDEFZ (Z is the PoO) is an address. One can't make this address FEDCBAZ and have another gate be dialed. Because the chevrons are points in space, ABCDEFZ = FEDCBAZ = every possible combination of those letters. Inserting that second six would also mean that you could make the address AACDEFZ, and with chevrons being fixed points in space making another point in space, this isn't possible (pt A, pt B make a line; pt C, pt D make a line; and pt E , pt F make a line that all intersect in one place: the target gate).

    So that's 222 gates for our galaxy. Assuming that all the addresses have planets at their locations and a breathable atmosphere (the ancients usually only put gates on planets that have breathable air, or so Carter says in one episode that I can't remember the name to).

    Using the same logic for an 8 chevron address, the gate can dial 259 addresses outside the MW galaxy, giving us a total of 481 addresses that can be dialed. Again, this is assuming that there is a gate at the given address.

    I'd rather not go into the ninth chevron, seeing as we don't know for sure what it does yet.

    Is my math wrong? Critique, por favor. (BTW, I'm not doing this to make myself look good- I just wanted to see what you guys thought)

    Proud supporter of His holy BAGness!

    #2
    Wow... what?

    No, permutations matter in Stargate. ABCDEFZ is NOT the same as FEDCBAZ, or anything of the sort.

    According to Wikipedia, for the Milky Way gate network:

    With 38 symbols, the Stargate Network in the Milky Way has:

    (38×37×36×35×34×33) = 1,987,690,320 possible addresses.
    8-symbol addresses will yield:

    (38×37×36×35×34×33×32) = 63,606,090,240 possible addresses.
    If a 9-symbol address operates like 8-symbol addresses it will yield:

    (38×37×36×35×34×33×32×31) = 1,971,788,797,440 possible addresses.

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      #3
      the first 2 could be x the second 2 y and the next 2 z and the last one PoO that would mean that if you changed the order it would not be the same address and if you add in the 8th you get the long distance travel for another galaxy

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        #4
        If you have a seven symbol adress, you have six chevron for the target planet. Assuming you can't use chevrons two times, you have 38 x 37 x 36 x35 x 34 x 33 = 1987690320 permutations

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          #5
          two chevrons cant be used. however, AAAAAAZ is possible, given that the gate is at point A.
          other things are: there are sixty billion possible adresses. however, only a handfull of them can be used. for instance ABCDEF=FEDCBA [but from a different perspective]
          also, AAA AAA Z is only possible if the gate is at A. AAA BBB Z is possible, meaning that the gate is at the middle of A-B. AAA would become one dot, BBB would become the other dot. so in the middle of both.

          ABB BBB is possible
          AAB BBB is possible
          AAA BBB is possible
          AAA ABB is possible
          AAA AAB is possible.
          all these symbols head at the same point: even if 5 of the 6 are the same, it means they are still one point, and thus its inbetween Symbol A and B.

          in space however, the point would be indicated in the figure of ABCDEF. A and B being one of the 3 dimension lines, CD being two points whith the line inbetwen intersecting the gate, and EF being the 3rd d of 3d, and thus also being at that position. funny enough, C, D, E, F can be all across the galaxy, along as the figurative line inbetween intersects the gate. or create a triangle with the gate in the middle.
          seeing as the ancients only use 6 symbol adresses, with 6 unique symbols, it obviously means that all AAA BBB stuff is ruled out as its written in 123456O mode.
          taking into account that every point of origin has two chevrons it cant use due to hazardous natural phenomena in the path of the wormhole, it means

          36 x 35 x 34 x 33 x 32 x 31 = 1,402,410,240 adresses.

          thats 1.4 billion adresses out of 60 billion possible adresses. which is still unbelievable much.

          1 on 6 possible adresses can be dialled

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            #6
            but not that many planets have stargates
            Originally posted by Craig Charles
            "And the 'replicator' has just entered Sir Killalot's corner and Killalot is...urm...wait a minute... Sir Killalot has just been eaten by the 'replicator' and now there's two of them..."

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              #7
              Originally posted by Guest750 View Post
              but not that many planets have stargates
              So?

              Not every 7 symbol address you dial gets a connection.
              Perhaps Puff

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                #8
                42 :d
                Meh.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Guest750 View Post
                  but not that many planets have stargates
                  Says who? Who knows how many worlds the Ancients placed gates on...
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                    #10
                    cannon
                    Originally posted by Craig Charles
                    "And the 'replicator' has just entered Sir Killalot's corner and Killalot is...urm...wait a minute... Sir Killalot has just been eaten by the 'replicator' and now there's two of them..."

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Guest750 View Post
                      cannon
                      No it doesn't. We have no idea how many galaxies the Ancients put gates on.

                      (Universe, anyone?)
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                        #12
                        I mean for a seven symbol address from within the MW
                        Originally posted by Craig Charles
                        "And the 'replicator' has just entered Sir Killalot's corner and Killalot is...urm...wait a minute... Sir Killalot has just been eaten by the 'replicator' and now there's two of them..."

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                          #13
                          as many as there are stargates. which can be thousands

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                            #14
                            Very big bump but I just wanted to say Sam actually says it. She says something along the lines of "there are so many addresses without gates that random dialing is impossible".
                            Originally posted by Craig Charles
                            "And the 'replicator' has just entered Sir Killalot's corner and Killalot is...urm...wait a minute... Sir Killalot has just been eaten by the 'replicator' and now there's two of them..."

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                              #15
                              yes in the SGA epi the brotherhood, mckay is being threatened to dial a given set of symbols and he says there are thousands of combinations, and that was with just 7 symbols, now imagine a whole dhd, how many do you think you could dial?
                              *Turn in your P-90 for a MP7; the standard issue weapon for any SG Team*


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