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    Default Whatever happened to the Tria?

    At this point, in the Gate universe, Earth has Asgard weapons which make salvaging ancient warships more or less unnecessary. But at the time of "The Return", Earth's warships were still dependent on rail guns and missiles, which were largely ineffective against Hive ships and, possibly, Ha'taks.

    So why didn't they try to salvage the Tria? Was an explanation given in any episode, or are we to simply understand that her hyperdrive is beyond repair?

    Anyone have any reasons?

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    Default Re: Whatever happened to the Tria?

    My memory's poor, but I think it was kind of implied that given that the Tria was moving at 0.99c (I think), and the Daedalus had to jump ahead of it to make meaningful contact and beam the Ancients onboard, that doing it the other way around would be ridiculous.

    Plus, the time dilation factor would be a pain, given the Ancients onboard experienced much less time than the millennia they'd been travelling.

    And, also, if the Ancients couldn't fix it, would Rodney have had much luck?

    From the point of view of a writer - it would have been way too easy. An easily acquired Ancient warship, probably with ZPM and drones, would have made things too easy.
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    Default Re: Whatever happened to the Tria?

    Quote Originally Posted by PotluckoftheGods View Post
    At this point, in the Gate universe, Earth has Asgard weapons which make salvaging ancient warships more or less unnecessary. But at the time of "The Return", Earth's warships were still dependent on rail guns and missiles, which were largely ineffective against Hive ships and, possibly, Ha'taks.

    So why didn't they try to salvage the Tria? Was an explanation given in any episode, or are we to simply understand that her hyperdrive is beyond repair?

    Anyone have any reasons?
    Most of us reckon its one of the whole franchises biggest plot holes

    Its probably destroyed by the asurans, though how they did this i do not know becuase it doesnt have hyperdrive :s
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    Default Re: Whatever happened to the Tria?

    The Tria is abandoned somewhere between the Milkyway and Pegasus galaxies.

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    The Tria was used to patch up Atlantis, I think, along with the Asuran ships. But we can never know, becuase if we try to, we will get sucked into the evilness of a phlat hwl.
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    Default Re: Whatever happened to the Tria?

    Quote Originally Posted by PotluckoftheGods View Post
    At this point, in the Gate universe, Earth has Asgard weapons which make salvaging ancient warships more or less unnecessary. But at the time of "The Return", Earth's warships were still dependent on rail guns and missiles, which were largely ineffective against Hive ships and, possibly, Ha'taks.

    So why didn't they try to salvage the Tria? Was an explanation given in any episode, or are we to simply understand that her hyperdrive is beyond repair?

    Anyone have any reasons?
    next time can you use the search fuction, theres atleast 10 other threads about this.
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    Default Re: Whatever happened to the Tria?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbutter View Post
    The Tria is abandoned somewhere between the Milkyway and Pegasus galaxies.
    Yes that is where it is and will remain. At least until TPTB remember about it.

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    Default Re: Whatever happened to the Tria?

    Quote Originally Posted by RM_2000_A View Post
    The Tria was used to patch up Atlantis, I think, along with the Asuran ships. But we can never know, becuase if we try to, we will get sucked into the evilness of a phlat hwl.
    In the return part two the Asurans say that they had to use the tria to rebuild the comand tower

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT.Adams View Post
    In the return part two the Asurans say that they had to use the tria to rebuild the comand tower
    The Asurans used their ship to rebuild the tower. NOT THE TRIA. The Trias Hyperdrive was off line so how could have they taken it back to Atlantis? Plus the captain was beamed into the gateroom suggesting that they rode on the Dedy back to Atlantis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord batchi ball View Post
    The Asurans used their ship to rebuild the tower. NOT THE TRIA. The Trias Hyperdrive was off line so how could have they taken it back to Atlantis? Plus the captain was beamed into the gateroom suggesting that they rode on the Dedy back to Atlantis.
    i believe they towed it back. the Asgard ships where capable of towing other ships so why not the Daedalus

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    They opened a hyperspace window for themselves and the Tria to tow them back to Atlantis.
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    Default Re: Whatever happened to the Tria?

    Becaue the 304's (back then) did not have full Asgard technologies. Also, when SG1 was trying to blowup the sun to take out Aphopis's fleet, they used a Hatak, which had some sort of technology that was able to lock onto the stargate onboard (put a shield around it) and control it and sent it into the sun.
    But on the 304's, when they wanted to connect the SuperGate to a smaller gate in Pegasus, they had to use booster rockets to hold the StarGate in place.

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    Default Re: Whatever happened to the Tria?

    I believe JM answered a question on his blog saying it's sitting in the void between galaxies needing its hyperdrive repaired.

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    Default Re: Whatever happened to the Tria?

    Yep, there's an abandoned Ancient warship with a ZPM (I'm pretty sure Rodney says they've got one, I apologise if I'm wrong!) and possibly a supply of drones but no functioning hyperdrive coasting through the massive void between galaxies. Maybe this has been deliberately setup like this to allow for a future episode regarding salvaging the Tria and actually expanding Earth's fleet (slap a 304 hyperdrive and a couple of Asgard plasma beams on it and you're laughing). Or maybe it's a plot hole big enough to fly a Lantean City-Ship through.
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    Default Re: Whatever happened to the Tria?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sealurk View Post
    Yep, there's an abandoned Ancient warship with a ZPM (I'm pretty sure Rodney says they've got one, I apologise if I'm wrong!) and possibly a supply of drones but no functioning hyperdrive coasting through the massive void between galaxies. Maybe this has been deliberately setup like this to allow for a future episode regarding salvaging the Tria and actually expanding Earth's fleet (slap a 304 hyperdrive and a couple of Asgard plasma beams on it and you're laughing). Or maybe it's a plot hole big enough to fly a Lantean City-Ship through.
    Mckay speculated that they would need a ZPM to travel so fast. I wish they would have revisited it before now, and it doesn't look like it's going to be in season 5, but it is one of the biggest unfinished stories in the SG franchine.(Note NOT A PLOTHOLE! Which is a contradiction in plot, not an unanswered question)

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    Default Re: Whatever happened to the Tria?

    It just occurred to me - correct me if I'm wrong, or if this is too damn obvious, but wasn't the Tria detected when the Daedalus was overseeing the first gate-bridge transfer, making her position almost smack bang in the middle of the void between Pegasus and the Milky Way? And wasn't the ship slowed enough to allow transport between the two vessels? Well...if the hyperdrive can't be fixed, just slow her down, strip her drones and ZPM, and you've got a nice, cheap, luxury replacement for Midway!
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    Well, the Tria is either gone to oblivion or stuck in the middle of the voids between galaxy, and as far as I am concerned, we won't find it because even if they halted in the middle of the voids, it can still be drifting somewhere, someplace.
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    i believe it was brought to atlantis, where the asurans used it to repair atlantis

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    the people of plot hole took over the ship and used it for there own purposes

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    at .9 c it entered a plothole.

    or midway fired its plot device

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