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    Default If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    "If you immediatley know the candle light is fire then the meal was cooked along time ago"

    Okkkkkkkkkkkk

    I have thought about this over and over and although I do have a few theories about what Oma Desala meant by this i'm not totally convincing myself.

    Does anyone else have any thoughts on what Oma meant by this or what she was trying to get Daniel to think about when she said this?

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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    One can make up a few plausible theories, but the truth is that the writers themselves likely didn't know what it means. Just a faux profound phrase meant to keep you guessing.
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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    I belive its kinda like

    "If you immediatley know that Evolution is a lie then you are a ****tard and nothing can change your mind"

    if you get my drift..

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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    Quote Originally Posted by Womble View Post
    One can make up a few plausible theories, but the truth is that the writers themselves likely didn't know what it means. Just a faux profound phrase meant to keep you guessing.
    I totally agree. But what plausible theories do you have?
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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kebab Gud View Post
    I belive its kinda like

    "If you immediatley know that Evolution is a lie then you are a ****tard and nothing can change your mind"

    if you get my drift..
    ahahahaha

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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    to clarefy

    "If you immediatley know one statement to be true.. then nothing can change your mind"

    get it better now?

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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    I read it to mean the following:

    You can only know the source or true nature of a phenomenon/object/situation once all of it's effects have occured.
    Last edited by Flyboy; May 4th, 2008 at 04:25 PM.


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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    If you immediatley know the candlelight is fire you will not burn your hand

    This topic has been done to death.... But he's what's in GW's description of Avalon;
    In the Ancient cavern Daniel quotes his favorite ascended being, Oma Desala: "If you immediately know the candlelight is fire ..." ("Maternal Instinct"). The rest of the quote is, "the meal was cooked a long time ago," and refers to things not being what they initially appear to be.

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    it means that if you already know the meaning of life then there is no point in living life its not made up by the writers its actually a zen koan
    Sozan, a Chinese Zen master, was asked by a student: "What is the most valuable thing in the world?"
    The master replied: "The head of a dead cat."
    "Why is the head of a dead cat the most valuable thing in the world?" inquired the student.
    Sozan replied: "Because no one can name its price."

    A long time ago in China there were two friends, one who played the harp skillfully and one who listened skillfully.
    When the one played or sang about a mountain, the other would say: "I can see the mountain before us."
    When the other played about water, the listener would exclaim: "Here is the running stream!"
    But the listener fell sick and died. The first friend cut the strings of his harp and never played again. Since that time the cutting of harp strings has always been a sign of intimate friendship.

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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    what about any references to the Ori????
    if you see a light at the end of the tunnel, it's just a photon torpedo.

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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    It's a phrase that has the same effect as the Latin "quidquid Latine dictum sit altum videtur"

    /Oh the irony

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    Um, I was under the impression (possibly mistaken) that it was a koan, and therefore wouldn't make immediate sense to the unenlightened (which is 99.999% of viewers....you don't catch a lot of monks watching SciFi).

    Could be wrong though.
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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    Huh, I guess it's been a few weeks since we've seen one of these threads. Longer than usual, anyway. My previous answer, I stand by it:


    I always understood it to be a metaphor concerning discarding preconceptions. You automatically assume the candle light is fire, and put no thought into it. A meal cooked a long time ago...is cold and unpleasant.

    Thus you would have missed the whole point of being here; you've jumped right to the end without enjoying the most important part--deep thought and personal contemplation.
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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    If I remember correctly, it's a reference to a Buddhist story about a fool who needed to cook a meal and so went looking for fire by candlelight.

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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    I imagine its a metaphor for the speed of human awareness.

    It means to say that we are very slow to grasp new concepts. The implicit idea is that if we can immediately recognize something, than instead of being proud of ourselves we should realize how far behind we really are.

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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    A meal cooked a long time ago...is cold and unpleasant.

    -these guys musta never had cold pizza, cause sometimes its just as satisfying and pleasant...
    ..not even moros/meirden/merlin nor the rest of the ancients, could find a cure... for male pattern baldness!

    What?.. Its a ship that goes through the gate.

    ...Or it could mean a piece of our leg...

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    That function is not possible

    However, I must admit that I am partial to the tater tots.

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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    If you do not immediately know that Stargate SG1 is a fictional series, your brain was fried long ago. LOL!

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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Dave View Post
    If you do not immediately know that Stargate SG1 is a fictional series, your brain was fried long ago. LOL!

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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    To quote the brilliant Terry Pratchett:

    "In the second scroll of Wen the Eternally Surprised a story is written concerning one day when the apprentice Clodpool, in a rebellious mood, approached Wen and spake thusly: "Master, what is the difference between a humanistic, monastic system of belief in which wisdom is sought by means of an apparently nonsensical system of questions and answers, and a lot of mystic gibberish made up on the spur of the moment?" Wen considered this for some time, and at last said: "A fish!" And Clodpool went away, satisfied."

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    Default Re: If you immediatley know the candle light is fire....

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Dave View Post
    If you do not immediately know that Stargate SG1 is a fictional series, your brain was fried long ago. LOL!

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