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    Visit the Episode GuideDOCTOR WHO SERIES 30
    THE POISON SKY
    EPISODE NUMBER - 3005

    As the Sontarans launch their attack on Earth by unleashing poison gas into the atmosphere, the Doctor must deal with a missing TARDIS and a mole in his midst.

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    Great episode. Made me laugh when the Dr said 'Are you my mummy' when they all had the gas masks on.
    Was rose saying something when she appeared on the TARDIS screen?
    So what race next wants to turn Earth into their breeding/cloning ground.

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    Too many fab moments in this one for me to remember, but here are a mere few of the ones that made my inner fangirl dance jigs and fling streamers:

    The Brigadier is alive and well!

    Rose?! I'm surprised at how much of a thrill I got from that split-second shot of her.

    Martha's first instinct is to hug the Doctor; for Donna, that's the second instinct after thumping him. I love Donna.

    An axe! Someone had a brain, at least.

    Are you my mummy?

    Burning skies, wonderfully exciting SFX there.

    Clone!Martha turned out to be a sort-of good guy. Rather sweet, she was.

    Nice that the geek students were reasonably sane and not all like their mentor.

    LOL at how the doctor dealt with geek-nutter's gun.

    Another "What? WHAT?" moment; nice ending.

    Next week? Crikey, looks like a big deal....

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    I absolutely love this episode, favorite of the season. Love it when unit went in and started kicking aliens (soltarians)butts. I also love it when the valiant flew in and bombarded the factory. And it was pretty smart using it engines to blow away the gas.

    I also like the way the humans actually help save the planet this time, to me it seem more like partnership and than just the doctor doing it, for a change.

    And it nice to actually see our weapons having a effect on the enemy. A bit odd that soltarians did not seem all that powerful to me when engage with the right bullets.

    Their was not one thing that I did not like about this episodes, may actually seeing the valiant fly in space, would of been cool but I doubt it has that capability.

    Does anyone here actually want to earth to fight a full interstellar war with the doctor in the middle or actually helping humans win it.

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    Good conclusion to part one...

    though the burning off the gas in the atmosphere was a bit suspect, normally burning off a an atmosphere results in a dead world

    Pvt. Ross Jenkins died There goes my hopes for him as companion in season 5

    Liked that the traitorous genius sacrificed himself to save the planet (though it wouldn't of needed saving if he wasn't a naive short sighted idiot)

    We got to see the Valient again YAY

    Mention of the Brig

    more thoughts after I rewatch it.... had my housemates badgering about making a racket in the kitchen

    Ohhh and the next trailer.... have been looking forward to this one since I heard about it

    Spoiler:
    Looks like it may well be his actual daughter and not a clone.... in which case how come he didnt know she survived the time war?

    And does she have some kind of control over the TARDIS?


    Cant wait for next week
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    "Are you my mummy?" BWAH!! Awesome! So perfect!

    Also, mention of the Brigadier to please the Classic fans.

    This was a good episode - better than the first part. It nicely fulfilled the promise of the first part, which was a lot about setting the scene, and the reveal of the Sontaran's true plan and the resolution of that was great. Some really lovely moments in there too - loved the two companions different reactions when the Doctor returns safe and sound. Martha rushes to hug him and Donna thumps him one for scaring them so much!

    Tiny nitpick on the idea of igniting the atmosphere - wouldn't that also burn off the oxygen and uhhhh.. leave everybody to suffocate to death? Looked cool though. Awesome use of the Valient too.

    I liked that the Doctor wasn't fooled by Clone!Martha for a second and thought the idea of him relying on Donna to save the day, being reluctant and regretful at having to put her in that situation, was wonderful. Those were truly tense moments where the companion, all alone, had to sneak through the enemy ship, fearing at any moment she'd be discovered. And if she was, there'd be nothing to Doctor could do to save her.

    Next week looks fab! I wasn't sure about the concept when I first heard about it but the idea is growing on me and the trailer looked great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Carpenter View Post

    Ohhh and the next trailer.... have been looking forward to this one since I heard about it

    Spoiler:
    Looks like it may well be his actual daughter and not a clone.... in which case how come he didnt know she survived the time war?

    And does she have some kind of control over the TARDIS?


    Cant wait for next week
    Actually I think it is a clone, created from the hand, that why they showed the hand several times. If it was his real daughter we would not of needed to see the hand. Plus I read somewhere that the hand would have it's mini story arc, sound like that would be it.

    I think that the hand and her being connected has drag the tardis to where ever she is.

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    Loved this one. UNIT actually being competent on their own works for me every time, so I was in raptures when the Doctor was impressed by the Colonel's plan.

    (Next week on... spoilers)
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    I think that the hand and her being connected has drag the tardis to where ever she is.
    I reckon far future, because it didn't look like present day and that's the only other time the hand has been to. Plus, who more likely than the Master to clone the Doctor into a supersoldier?
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    Al lot better than the first part, so where to start,

    Is it me or did Rose look like she was trying to warn Donna about something?

    The Brig is mentioned and what's he doing in Peru?

    "Are You My Mummy" I was sooooo waiting for Jack to appear, at least he got a mention

    The Daedalus Valliant back again

    Thank %&? for Donna's mum, now I know where Donna get's it from

    I thought the burning atmosphere was a bit suspect too, good bit of FX tho

    Poor Ross, a 'Red Shirt' if ever I saw one, damn shame

    The nutty genius sacrificing himself to save those he nearly destroyed, in a fit of remorse gimme a break

    I love Bernard Cribbins' Gramps he's one of the best reoccuring characters ever in New Who

    As for next week

    Spoiler:
    Could the Doctor's Daughter be the hand that picked up Ming the Merciless The Master's ring?


    Roll on next week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reefgirl View Post
    Is it me or did Rose look like she was trying to warn Donna about something?
    I thought it looked like she was shouting "Doctor!" - as though she is trying to contact/find a way through to the Doctor.

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    1. Liked the fact that the Doctor saw through Martha-clone early on!

    2. Liked the fact that Earth was able to play a decent part in saving it's own backside(so much for not being able to fight the Sontarans!)

    3. Could relate to the Sontaran's proxy to an extent but would still whack him if I saw him.

    4. Rose again! Hmmm...

    The doctor's daughter? WEll technicallly the Doctor had a granddaughter in the old school series so could this individual be Susan's Mum after several regens?

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    Guys, can I play mum for a moment and remind everyone that any spoilers/speculation etc for episodes beyond The Poison Sky need to be spoiler-tagged in this thread.

    Cheers.

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    This series is looking like a really tepid one. I haven't found much beyond Donna (& of course The Doctor) to like about any of the episodes so far, Martha being in so many episodes is just painful for me to watch and Rose being the "Bad Wolf" "Torchwood" of the series is getting on my nerves no end.

    While a kid probably loved this episode I found it lack any real story, all The Doctor did was run around yelling, barely thought beyond two seconds ahead and really I expect way more.

    Sorry, but I bloody do!

    Two things I liked, "Are you my mummy?" and the mention of Jack was nice but explain what The Doctor meant? The t-shirt and the clone reference? Was this just a clever nod to what is to come or something else? I was a bit lost there.

    Maybe it is a blessing that next year we will only be getting specials, maybe they all need a good long break to get back to the magic that was in series one and two and the latter part of series 3. There have been far too many misses in the last 18 episodes of the show, I want a few more hits.

    Don't even get me started on the premise of next week's ep. I just hope it is closer to a great episode then say a "Daleks in Manhattan" type episode.
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    She is Rose's child right? *shrugs* I wouldn't put it passed them.

    Either that, or RTD has gone completely mad and it is Jack's and The Doctor's daughter... yes! LOL


    *goes off to re-watch The Doctor Dances*

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    I thought it was a pretty good episode. Much better than the rubbish Helen Raynor came out with last season.

    Loved the "are you my mummy" bit

    I think Rose said 'Doctor.' Don't think Donna saw her though, she didn't seem very surprised to see a random face show up if she did. And how was Rose able to make herself show up on the TARDIS screen anyway?

    Regarding next weeks episode, does anyone else think the doctors daughter is very un-doctorish? Running around with guns and everything.

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    Right........This Episode............THE BEST YET this season. No two ways about it. It was just fantastic. I'll have to write more about it but I can't be bothered right now but I'll watchi it again then come back.
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    Is it just me, or is this the Season of References? In this ep alone we get Jack, "Are you my mummy?" the Valiant, the Hand, Rose, and probably a couple of other things I'm forgetting about. LOVE it.

    For all that I loathe the thought of that whiny brat Rose coming back, I'm resigned to it and am a bit curious as to how it'll play out. Is she trying to find him in order to solve a problem in her 'verse? And is she connected with the "lost" worlds? 'Cos if there's a world lost for every attempt she makes to try and break through to our 'verse, well, that might be interesting.

    Was very sorry to see Ross go. I had a bad feeling he was toast, but it was still sad to see. Yay for Donna's mum and the ax. That's kinda what I was waiting for Donna to do last week, so I'm glad SOMEONE thought of it and it being her "obnoxious" mother is a good touch, IMO.

    My thought on the whole "igniting the sky" thing is that the device was at atmospheric converter, right? So yes, it DID ignite the sky, but at the same time it was converting it back to Earth-normal atmosphere. Er... right? The science is probably dodgy (imagine that!) but that's what I got from it, anyway.

    Can't say I'm very impressed by the Sontarans. Nor all that impressed by UNIT, quite frankly. Did they always ignore the Doctor so thoroughly, or is this one of those "rites of passage" things and next time maybe they'll pay more attention to what he has to say? That kiss thing at the end? Seemed kinda lame and tacky to me. More eye-rolling than amusing.

    Previews for next week...
    Spoiler:
    Yeah, she does seem a bit Rose-like, doesn't she? Being blonde and all. I dunno about her being a clone, though. When I saw the Hand I immediately thought of Jack, although, alas, I don't think he's due to appear. Not yet anyway. *fingers crossed* HOWEVER, the Hand was Jack's Doctor Detector and my guess is that someone is using the Hand in order to call the Doctor to wherever. Boy, if Jack could have managed THAT little trick he'd have saved himself a lot of time and effort.

    Of course, I also don't think she's a "true" daughter, so I'm not sure what other options there are unless someone used a genetic sample from the Doctor and combined it with a genetic sample from someone else. Or it's something really out there. LOL!


    "Are you my mummy?" Hee! That never gets old...

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    Nor all that impressed by UNIT, quite frankly. Did they always ignore the Doctor so thoroughly, or is this one of those "rites of passage" things and next time maybe they'll pay more attention to what he has to say? That kiss thing at the end? Seemed kinda lame and tacky to me. More eye-rolling than amusing.
    But she's a girly! Girlies are all emotional and impulsive and bad at sports!

    Or in other words, yeah; tell me about it. so much for professionalism. How many Armageddons did Liz Shaw get through without needing to snog anyone?

    I actually liked that they went ahead and did their own thing... and it worked. UNIT work best, for me, when they're the alternative to the Doctor. The Brigadier was always at loggerheads with him over whether to break out the bazookas, and as much as the Doctor always advised the careful approach, Sir Alastair's way worked; to a point at least. And I loved the fact that, when it came right down to it, the Colonel did have a plan, and that it involved something we'd seen before instead of pure deus ex.

    And if the converter's fireball can blow up a spaceship and it swept the Earth's atmosphere at altitude... Well, no wonder the bees have bogged off.

    (Next week on... spoilers)
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    Yeah, she does seem a bit Rose-like, doesn't she? Being blonde and all. I dunno about her being a clone, though. When I saw the Hand I immediately thought of Jack, although, alas, I don't think he's due to appear. Not yet anyway. *fingers crossed* HOWEVER, the Hand was Jack's Doctor Detector and my guess is that someone is using the Hand in order to call the Doctor to wherever. Boy, if Jack could have managed THAT little trick he'd have saved himself a lot of time and effort.
    My theory is that the Master cloned her from the Doctor's hand. It didn't look like present day Earth, and the far future is the only other time the hand has been (I may have said that much already). He cloned her and trained her to use her Time Lord instincts (perfect timing and manifold, super-acute senses) to be a perfect warrior. He was probably waiting to bring her out as the leader of his armies as a final kick in the, um, teeth to the defeated Doctor. She may or may not have been the one taking the ring at the end.

    I think (hope? pray?) that the blonde is less because she's Rose's daughter than because she's Peter Davison and Sandra Dickinson's.

    Of course, blonde kung-fu chick vs pointy-teethed people-eaters may seem a little bit familiar...[/QUOTE]
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    Might wanna fix those tags there, Proph.

    I suppose I can see that working, and it does still tie things together in an interesting way. Also a bit weird and creepy, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. LOL!

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    I absolutely loved how this used backstory to help us along. Valiant? Brilliant. Colonel not a total blimp? Fantastic.

    Mention of the Brigadier? Nearly had me doing a fangrrl dance.

    Fantastic.
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    Brilliant!
    Are you my mummy! The Brigadier (hey I'm just watching the Pertwee years now...)! Rose! Jack mention! "Being stuck on this planet like an ordinary human, no offence meant.."! Ross died . Donna not trusting the Doctor blindly and questioning him about sending her alone in a ship full opf Sontarans! First hitting him and then hugging him! The Valiant!

    And I love Wilf. Seriuosly. Why can't Donna invite him over for a trip or two?

    And next week's trailer! Coolness.

    Also, I have to admit the list of countries with nuclear weapons made me chuckle. Oh, the diplomacy..
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