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    and it was the first capital ship for space and that is why the ship is the start of an era.

    and without the 303 the 304 would have been the failure. The 303 stage was needed to be completed to get us to a truly working space ship

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      and thus there's no use in reviving it

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        no there might not be a use, but it could if the tech is now better incorporated serve as a testbed, using a 304 for that would cut our available warships down, which is never good.


        It could however be a good ship for countries that cannot afford a 304 or are not trusted enough to have a 304. Than to give them something they can use a 303 might be good.

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          Originally posted by tjoflojt View Post
          No, we don't need to bring back the 303. It was impractical, and of we want a smaller ship, we "need" to design a new one, and have all tech integrated from the begining. the 303 was a technology testbed, and a rather big failure.
          easier to get an already designed ship, make a few changes, than designing a new ship from scratch.

          Originally posted by tjoflojt View Post
          It was, small, weak, with poorly integrated tech. the USAF Daedalus DSC-304 was the beginning of a new era.
          noe Prommy was beggining of the era. stated in several wikis so

          Originally posted by tjoflojt View Post
          Did the 303 ever manage to beat an opponant? no, whenever it saw action, it got it's arse kicked. it was a failure. the 304 was the first true tau'ri warship.
          it handled an attack form Anubis mothership (acient enhanced) and atleast SOME of his ha'tak that were in orbit. even after taking hits by it while focusing on fighter and bomber craft. i think the Prommy could handle itself (until it went up against Ori tech)

          303 was not made to "kick arse" specifically it was made be Earth's first line of defence. and with the fact we could make "slammers" take out a a mothership i think the Prommy could handle itself against a ha'tak or 5

          Originally posted by thekillman View Post
          and thus there's no use in reviving it
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              It's up to each individ to decide what we consider to be the beginning of an era. I see as the Tau'ri crawling before they could walk, and eventually run, in space-tech.
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              Spoiler:
              Originally posted by IMDB
              Revealing mistakes: Throughout the series, the IDC is received by the SGC before the wormhole has been established.
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                the crawl is 303 no arguments as that was the beginina of their deep space exploration (bar the gate of course)
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                  Originally posted by Commander Thor View Post
                  noe Prommy was beggining of the era. stated in several wikis so
                  Because wikis are always reliable. :-/

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                    wiki's are not but uhh using ya brain is, and logically the 303 is the start of an era

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                      nope, 301 is the beginning of an era.

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                        ahh well it depends on how you look at it, but it ether starts a 301 or 303

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                          or at the 302, depending on what era you want.

                          301 starts the era of spaceships and earth participation in SG space flight.
                          302 starts the era of interstellar space ships.
                          303 starts the era of interstellar battlecruisers
                          304 starts the intergalactic era

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                            Originally posted by tjoflojt View Post
                            Did the 303 ever manage to beat an opponant? no, whenever it saw action, it got it's arse kicked. it was a failure. the 304 was the first true tau'ri warship.
                            It did manage to take out a lone Al'kesh. That makes it as capable as a 302. A bigger, less manuverable, better shielded, well stocked 302.
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                              Originally posted by TrueLordOfNetu View Post
                              It did manage to take out a lone Al'kesh. That makes it as capable as a 302. A bigger, less manuverable, better shielded, well stocked 302.
                              then lets build more 302s, since they're as capable.
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                              Spoiler:
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                              Revealing mistakes: Throughout the series, the IDC is received by the SGC before the wormhole has been established.
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                                Well stack them up.

                                area 303, 304
                                shields, none and then Good, slightly better
                                FTL engines horrible and then decent, decent from the start.
                                sublight engines equal
                                weapons, barely hurt anything could only fight smaller vessels and win, has taken on ori, and warith vessels.
                                Carriage 8 fighters, 32 fighters(16 when carrying supplies for atlantis.)
                                Overall I would say the 303 would need a complete redesign anyways. it would be better to design a new vessel of roughly the same size of the prommie. A cruiser to the 304's carrier.

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