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    Arrow2 Daudales is gettin' slow...

    I understand that Caldwell wasn't supposed to destroy it, but honestly, those asgard beams should have been easily able to fry Michael's engines. It's inexcusible!! They cut through Aurora-class ships easier than that!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacejumper76 View Post
    I understand that Caldwell wasn't supposed to destroy it, but honestly, those asgard beams should have been easily able to fry Michael's engines. It's inexcusible!! They cut through Aurora-class ships easier than that!!!
    Wraith have real thick armor, they were fighting for all of a minute and it took 'heavy' damage. I thought it was fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacejumper76 View Post
    I understand that Caldwell wasn't supposed to destroy it, but honestly, those asgard beams should have been easily able to fry Michael's engines. It's inexcusible!! They cut through Aurora-class ships easier than that!!!
    But it's not as if the beams hit and were ineffective; they missed. You forget, the beams are a directional weapon; once you fire, if your target moves you're going to miss. The cruiser was just agile enough to avoid the beams, nothing wrong with that. It's actually good to see that the "almighty Asgard beam" can't KO everything in one try.

    EDIT: Besides, all we ever saw/heard fire at the cruiser prior to that last shot were the rail guns; presumably, the beams were never used until we actually saw them.
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    They need to send whoever was in charge of shooting back to earth till he learns how to actually hit things and replace him with some who can actually hit a target. I suppose we should be grateful that the guy shooting tonight wasn't the one in charge when they launched the attack on the Replicator planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myles View Post
    Wraith have real thick armor, they were fighting for all of a minute and it took 'heavy' damage. I thought it was fine.
    Pleaaaaaaaase... They were using rail guns up until the end...It was a plot contrivance. You see a Wraith ship that opens fire, you use the beam weapons. Simple as that. I wish they could have found another way of dealing with the situation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddevil18 View Post
    Pleaaaaaaaase... They were using rail guns up until the end...It was a plot contrivance. You see a Wraith ship that opens fire, you use the beam weapons. Simple as that. I wish they could have found another way of dealing with the situation...
    Since they didn't show anything, who knows. But in reality, yes, the plot dictated the ship couldn't be blown to hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s09119 View Post
    But it's not as if the beams hit and were ineffective; they missed. You forget, the beams are a directional weapon; once you fire, if your target moves you're going to miss. The cruiser was just agile enough to avoid the beams, nothing wrong with that. It's actually good to see that the "almighty Asgard beam" can't KO everything in one try.

    EDIT: Besides, all we ever saw/heard fire at the cruiser prior to that last shot were the rail guns; presumably, the beams were never used until we actually saw them.
    Yes, that's fine and well, but the Daedalus is even more maneuvrable. Realistically, the cruiser should've been blown to pieces. They should have used the beam weapons from the get go. It was just something silly, to suit the plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddevil18 View Post
    Yes, that's fine and well, but the Daedalus is even more maneuvrable. Realistically, the cruiser should've been blown to pieces. They should have used the beam weapons from the get go. It was just something silly, to suit the plot.
    True, but my point still stands about the beams themselves; if your target is slow or big, you can hit it. But if it's small and fast, the beams are going to be pretty mich useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s09119 View Post
    True, but my point still stands about the beams themselves; if your target is slow or big, you can hit it. But if it's small and fast, the beams are going to be pretty mich useless.
    I agree, but if the plot hadn't required for the ship to survive, the Daedalus wouldn't have been moving in slow motion. We've seen that it's extremely maneuvrable, as it's a relatively small ship...Like I said, they did it to suit the situation. Which is fine, but it gets annoying when, in other episodes, again, to suit the situation, you may see it zipping around, taking out ship after ship with just 2-3 shots...

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    LOL. Complete plot device (brings back memories of BAMSR'd), but is even much worse in this case.

    Beams slow? In all sci-fi, not SGA bull, beam weapons travel at or near speed of light!

    Beams will hit anything if your aiming is on.

    1 beam hit = destroyed cruiser, it would definitely cause massive damage leading to its destruction, or dissect a cruiser if it hit sideways (which happened to an Aurora in BAMSR'd, Auroras are far larger than a Cruiser).

    So obviously, due to plot device, the Daedalus has been firing maybe 1 rail gun at the cruiser, in very short burst during this time.

    Keep in mind that railguns have been upgraded, CGI different, a lot of damage to unshielded Auroras. So if they opened up with all their railguns=dead Cruiser as well.

    Obviously, the Daedalus was protecting the Cruiser. Doh. The little baby crusier, here is some Mama's milk

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    That's true, but it erks me, too! It cut through GOD KNOWS HOW MANY AURORAS IN BAMSR!!!! And the Travelers' aurora was able to take out that cruiser easily (once the weapons were up)! Curse you plot line! CURSSSSE YOUUUUUU!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSPuddlejumper View Post
    LOL. Complete plot device (brings back memories of BAMSR'd), but is even much worse in this case.

    Beams slow? In all sci-fi, not SGA bull, beam weapons travel at or near speed of light!

    Beams will hit anything if your aiming is on.

    1 beam hit = destroyed cruiser, it would definitely cause massive damage leading to its destruction, or dissect a cruiser if it hit sideways (which happened to an Aurora in BAMSR'd, Auroras are far larger than a Cruiser).

    So obviously, due to plot device, the Daedalus has been firing maybe 1 rail gun at the cruiser, in very short burst during this time.

    Keep in mind that railguns have been upgraded, CGI different, a lot of damage to unshielded Auroras. So if they opened up with all their railguns=dead Cruiser as well.

    Obviously, the Daedalus was protecting the Cruiser. Doh. The little baby crusier, here is some Mama's milk
    No, lasers travel at lightspeed. Beam weapons (being plasma) travel much, much slower. There's nothing wrong with the speed of the beams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s09119 View Post
    No, lasers travel at lightspeed. Beam weapons (being plasma) travel much, much slower. There's nothing wrong with the speed of the beams.
    Indeed. The speed of the beam has been consistent. It's the way the Daedalus moved so slowly and only used rail guns at first that was annoying...But I guess we can blame the chick.
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    They did heavy damage to the cruiser with just the railgun's alone, and i dont' think the Asgard beam's would miss, it's just that they were trying to disable the ship, not destroy it. The chick did say "i think so" when caldwell asked her if she could disable it, so she obviously was'nt 100% confident, besides the beam weapons are designed for 1 shot 1 kill, they were never meant to disable.

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    Speed of beam weapons are inconsisent, as inconsistent as the speed of the drones.

    Examples: Asuran satellite beam weapon hitting the ocean from Orbit in roughly 1-2 seconds (near the speed of light).

    Drone example: Drones reaching Annubis fleet in orbit a few seconds after being fired. Then a drone having trouble catching up to a dodging helicopter driven by John.

    Hey, it is sci-fi. But don't be under the delusions about consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSPuddlejumper View Post
    Speed of beam weapons are inconsisent, as inconsistent as the speed of the drones.

    Examples: Asuran satellite beam weapon hitting the ocean from Orbit in roughly 1-2 seconds (near the speed of light).

    Drone example: Drones reaching Annubis fleet in orbit a few seconds after being fired. Then a drone having trouble catching up to a dodging helicopter driven by John.

    Hey, it is sci-fi. But don't be under the delusions about consistency.
    It's been consistent when it comes to the Asgard beam weapons. That drone was "controlled" by Carson, so it's not that unreasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSPuddlejumper View Post
    Speed of beam weapons are inconsisent, as inconsistent as the speed of the drones.

    Examples: Asuran satellite beam weapon hitting the ocean from Orbit in roughly 1-2 seconds (near the speed of light).

    Drone example: Drones reaching Annubis fleet in orbit a few seconds after being fired. Then a drone having trouble catching up to a dodging helicopter driven by John.

    Hey, it is sci-fi. But don't be under the delusions about consistency.
    Actually those drones took a good 30 seconds to reach oribt... and you can't comapre the speeds of two different plasma beams to one another; different things altogether. There is no inconsistency.
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    Is it possible that the beams have to be charged before firing. When we attacked the Asurans planet we fired railguns first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgate View Post
    Is it possible that the beams have to be charged before firing. When we attacked the Asurans planet we fired railguns first.
    True. But I still say we blame the chick...

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    True. But I still say we blame the chick...
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