Most Accurate Atlantis Scaling Thread Ever

[boberth2o]

Scaling One of Atlantis

This is the most accurate and best scaleing of atlantis upto date. Using the screens from 'Quarantine', 'Lifeline', and 'Mortalcoil.' Well lets see how it goes, maybe this wont be what you expected, or it is.

Picture One



John in this picture is 26 pixels tall, John being 6 feet tall.

26 pixels = 6ft or 1.8m

The Window in this picture is 41 pixels tall

41 / 26 = 1.57

1.57 * 6 = 9.42ft

1.57 * 1.8 = 2.82m

Window size = 2.82m or 9.42ft


Picture Two



The Window in this picture is 23 pixels tall

The Building Section One is 133 pixels tall

133 / 23 = 5.78

5.78 * 9.42 = 54.44ft

5.78 * 2.82 = 16.30m

Building Section One size = 16.30m or 54.44ft


Picture Three



The Building Section One is 39 pixels tall

The Building Section Two is 296 pixels tall

296 / 39 = 7.59

7.59 * 54.44 = 413.20ft

7.59 * 16.30 = 123.71m

Building Section Two size = 123.71m or 413.20ft


Picture Four



The Building Section Two is 80 pixels tall

The Control Tower is 493 pixels tall.

493 / 80 = 6.16

6.16 * 413.20 = 2545.31ft

6.16 * 123.71 = 762.05m

The Control Tower size = 762.05m or 2545.31ft


Picture Five



The Control Tower is 216 pixels tall.

The Width of Atlantis is 936 pixels.

The Height of Atlantis is 369 pixels.

Width

936 / 216 = 4.33

4.33 * 2545.31 = 11021.20ft

4.33 * 762.05 = 3299.67m

The Width / Diameter of Atlantis = 3,300 meters or 11,021 feet

Height

369 / 216 = 1.71

1.71 * 2545.31 = 4352.48ft

1.71 * 762.05 = 1303.10m

The Height of Atlantis = 1303 meters or 4352 feet

Scaling Two of Atlantis

Below is another scaling of Atlantis using Rodney on the edge of the Pier from 'Sunday' Have Fun!

Picture One



Here in the first picture we have Rodney next to a light poll, now saying that Rodney is 6’0’ as I did for John we’ll begin our scaling.

Rodney = 49 pixels

Light = 187 pixels

49 pixels = 6’0”

187 / 49 = 3.82

6 * 3.82 = 22.92

Light Pole = 22.92’

Picture Two



Here in the second picture we have the light pole begin compared next to the fin, and note that this fin is the only one on Atlantis so we can’t mess up the scale here.

Light = 26 pixels

Fin = 188 pixels

188 / 26 = 7.23

22.92 * 7.23 = 165.71

Fin = 165.71’

Picture Three



Here in the third picture we have the fin being compared next to the control tower, and note that the fin and the bottom of the control tower are being measured from the same base location.

Fin = 13 pixels

Control Tower = 80 pixels

80 / 13 = 6.15

165.71 * 6.15 = 1019.11

Control Tower = 1019.11’

Picture Four



Now here in the fourth picture we have the control tower being compared to the width of Atlantis.

Control Tower = 213 pixels

Atlantis = 1124 pixels

1124 / 213 = 5.27

1019.11 * 5.27 = 5370.70

The Width / Diameter of Atlantis = 1636 meters or 5371 feet

1019.11 * 1.71 = 1742.67 (from previous scaling)

The Height of Atlantis = 531 meters or 1743 feet

Scaling Three of Atlantis

Using our picture for scaling I did it a thrid time.

Picture One



Rodney = 6'

Pier Plateau= 104.4'

Picture Two



Pier Plateau = 10 pixels

Fin = 47 pixels

47 / 10 = 4.7

104.4 * 4.7 = 490.7

Fin = 490.7'

Picture Three




Fin = 13 pixels

Control Tower = 80 pixels

80 / 13 = 6.15

490.7 * 6.15 = 3013

Control Tower = 3013'

Picture Four



Control Tower = 213 pixels

Atlantis = 1124 pixels

1124 / 213 = 5.27

3013 * 5.27 = 15878.5

The Width / Diameter of Atlantis = 4840 meters or 15879 feet

3013 * 1.71 = 5152.2 (from previous scaling)

The Height of Atlantis = 1570 meters or 5152 feet

Scaling One of Daedalus

Ok now I have been doing some scaling on the Daedalus Class Battle Crusiers and here is what I have to show (note: the scale of pictures is kinda bad and I tried to make it better but couldn't, sorry):



In the picture it shows Sam right next to the Odyssey. Sam is about 6ft tall in the space suit and I compared that to the front of the ship and its roughly 16ft tall or 5 1/3 meters.



Here Im taking the front of the ship to the total size of the 'head' of the ship. It's about 10x the size of the front making it 160ft (53 1/3 meters) tall.



Now in the thrid picture I'm taking the size of the 'head' of the ship to the length. It's 11 4/5x the hieght, so 11.80 x 160 = 1888ft (630 meters or so) long. I took the height of the front and took it to the back of the Odyssey. It's 1 3/4x the front, 1.75 x 160 = 280ft (94 meters).



For the width I took the height at the back and compared it to the width at the back. the bottom of the back is 4 1/2x the height at the back making it 4.5 x 280 = 1280ft (420 meters). Then at the top of the of the Odyssey its 2 1/2x the height so 2.5 x 280 = 700 ft (233 1/3 meters).



To find the front width of the ship I took the hieght of the front section and compared it to the width. It's 9 3/4x the hieght- 9.75 x 16 = 156ft (52 meters) wide.


The dimensions of the Deadelus class ships are as follows:
The length is: 1888ft (630 meters)
The height at the front is: 160ft (53 1/3 meters)
The height at the back is: 280ft (94 meters)
The width at the front is: 156ft (52 meters)
The width at the back w/ hangers is: 1280ft (420 meters)
The width at the back w/o hangers is: 700 ft (233 1/3 meters)

Hope it helps a bit

Note: that I used the shots from 'Camelot' but those are comparisons on the ship itself now the ships to other ships. I would think that the FX guys would not mess up the porportions of the ships in the clip, maybe the size, but not the porportions. So these comparisions should be pretty good. Ok below is the new scaling for the ship cuz a guy commented that space suits are one 7ft tall instead of 6ft so.. here are the new dimensions:

Ok I re-did the scaling with 7ft Sam

Scaling for the Odyssey:
Height front: 148ft (50 meters)
Length total: 1746ft (582 meters)
Height back: 259ft (86 Meters)
Width back w/o Hangers: 648ft (216 meters)
Width back w/ Hangers: 1165ft (388 meters)
Width front: 180ft (60 meters)

Note: in the original the height at the front is not 10x it's 8x sorry


Here is the link to my post --------------->Click Me!

Scaling Two of Daedalus

Ok now I re-did my dimensions for the x-304 ship using pixels:

First I got the measurement of cater in the space suit which was 24 pixels like you had ZakeD and the same for the front with 61 pixels. Now Carter it seven feet tall in the spacesuit because of the boots and the helmet. The front of the X-304 is 2.5416 times larger than Carter; Carter = C, Front Height Small = S, Meters = M.

S = C*2.5416

S = 7*2.5416

S = 17.79 Feet

M = S*.3048

M = 5.4227

Now those are almost exactly the same as yours but it gets different now. I used the shot of the X-304 from the side at Camelot to do the bottom length of the ship. Instead of 200 pixels which you got I got 110 pixels and I had to re-measure the Front Height Small of the ship too, I got 9 pixels for that. The front bottom of the ship is 12.22222 times larger than Front Height Small; Front Bottom = B.

B = S*12.22222

B = 17.79*12.22222

B = 217.43 feet

M = B*.3048

M = 66.27266

For the Height to compare to the height that I got earlier in my first post bout that scale of the X-304 is as follows, and a different picture. Ok now the Front Height Large is 135 pixels and I had to re-measure the Front Height Small again…. and its 15 pixels. The Front Height Large is 9 time larger than the Front Height Small; Front Height Large = F.

F = S*9

F = 17.79*9

F = 160.11 feet

M = F*.3048

M = 48.80

That is the same as what I got before in my previous post.

For the Total Length of the ship I am going to use the Front Height Large and the picture with the full view of the X-304 in the background. The Front Height Large of the ship 21 pixels and the Total Length of the ship is 247 pixels (the same as you). That is a ratio of 11.71 Front Height Larges to One Total Length; Total Length = L

L = F*11.71

L = 160.11*11.71

L = 1874.88 feet

M = L*.3048

M = 571.46

That was very close to the my original length of the ship
For the Width of the ship Im going to do that in my next post because it’s getting late in Ohio and I Want to sleep.

To be continued……… ...........ooooo there might be pictues too

[Lord You]

Wow, I thought Atlantis was about as big as Manhattan, but according to your figures it is about 1/160th the size of Manhattan.

[Jarnin]

The Width / Diameter of Atlantis = 3,300 meters or 11,021 feet

The Height of Atlantis = 1303 meters or 4352 feet

Sounds about right to me.

Wow, I thought Atlantis was about as big as Manhattan, but according to your figures it is about 1/160th the size of Manhattan.

Manhattan wasn't being used as a comparison for area, it was being used as a comparison for volume. In other words, all the buildings in Manhattan contain about the same amount of volume as Atlantis.

[s09119]

Manhattan wasn't being used as a comparison for area, it was being used as a comparison for volume. In other words, all the buildings in Manhattan contain about the same amount of volume as Atlantis.

Which makes sense, considering there is no room between things on Atlantis like there is in Manhattan.

[Crazy Tom]

I'd green you Buba, but it won't let me

[s09119]

I'd green you Buba, but it won't let me

I did it for you

[Crazy Tom]

I did it for you

All's well then

[Mister Oragahn]

This scaling fits with those I and others have made, which all pointed out to a city being more than 3 km wide, often having a figure in the 3.2 km ballpark, and in certain cases, 3.6 km wide.

The 3.2 km one seems fairly solid by now.

If only they could stop screwing the hiveships!

[Phantom6]

Very cool.

Now, What are the dimensions on the 304's and Hives?



This is all I have to help,




Looking at that it makes me think a Hive is either as big as or bigger than Atlantis.

[boberth2o]

Scaling Three of Daedalus

I have Some interesting stuff on Hive scalings, i did another scaling on the X-304 again and here is the posts-----------> Click Me! and Click Me Too!


Ok did some scaling on the hive ship from the computer displays from the show ‘Allies’: Here and Here


In the first picture it shows me finding the length of the hive using the Daedalus. The Daedalus in that is 11.66667 times smaller than the Hive ship. From my previous post I got the length of the Daedalus at 1874.88ft (571.46 meters) and I am going to use that for the basis of my scaling of the Hive ship. For the pixels its 42 pixels for the Daedalus and 490 pixels, the outcomes for the pixels should be the same; Hive = H, Daedalus = D, Meters = M.




For the Feet
H = D*11.66667
H = 1874.88*11.66667
H = 21873.606 feet
M = H*.3048
M = 21873.606*.3048
M = 6667.0751

For the Meters
H = D*11.6667
H = 571.46*11.66667
H = 667.0353 meters


And here is the other view from the top picture of the Daedalus, it is 10.91111 times smaller than the Hive ship. Note these measurements apply to the pixels as well becuase they are the exact same at the Daedalus having 42 pixels and the Hive at 458 pixels.



For the Feet
H = D*10.91111
H = 1874.88*10.91111
H = 20457.021 feet
M = H*.3048
M = 20457.021*.3048
M = 6235.3

For the Meters
H = D*10.91111
H = 571.46*10.91111
H = 6235.2629 meters


For the Width of the Hive ship I used how many times the Daedalus would fit into it. Note in the picture below there was the top view of the Hive and there was a part at the top covered by the HUD, so I copied and pasted the bottom part, since the ship is symetrical, to the top. Ok now this might be convenient but the length of the Daedalus fits exactly 8 times into the width of the Hive down to the pixel. I know I was shocked toooo… the pixels of the Hive ship are 336 and the pixels of the Daedalus are 42. So I don’t haveto do two sets of math here because the measurements are exact to the pixel and to the 8 Daedalus’ shown.



For the Feet
H = D*8
H = 1874.88*8
H = 14999.04
M = D*.3048
M = 14999.04*.3048
M = 4571.7073

For the Meters
H = D*8
H = 571.46*8
H = 4571.68 meters



OK if you still don’t believe me that the Hive ship is only four and a half kilometer here is something to think about. In the episode ‘Allies’ it shows the Daedalus in the center of the Hive, above it shows that the Daedalus only goes in the hive about ten times an the hive some people say is 11K divide that by ten and you get that the Daedalus is 1100 meters. That is way greater than the estimates that I’ve found before. That says that either the Daedalus is really huge or the Hive ship is smaller than we thought.

Scaling Four of Daedalus

B-747 length = 76.4m = 827 Pixels
Door Distance = 125 Pixels

0.092382 m/pixel

Door Distance = 11.55 m



F-302 Length = 211 Pixels
Door Distance = 233 Pixels

0.049571 m/pixel

F-302 Length = 10.46 m



F-302 Length = 175 Pixels
F-302 Width = 335 Pixels

0.059768 m/pixel

F-302 Width = 20.02 m



F-302 Width = 363 Pixels
Hanger Width = 620 Pixels

0.055158 m/pixel

Hanger Width = 34.19 m



Hanger Width = 70 Pixels
Total Width = 641 pixels

0.488542 m/pixel

Total Width = 313.15 m



Total Width = 68 Pixels
Total Length = 125 Pixels

4.60523 m/pixel

Total Length = 575.65 m

[s09119]

Oh! LOL I have done those in hthe past, give me a second to find my post and I will post it here.

Great! I was just arguing about this with someone in another thread...

[Cory Holmes]

It's too small. 3km barely qualifies as the "Lost Villiage of the Ancients". It's more like the "Lost Hamlet of the Ancients"!

[boberth2o]

It's too small. 3km barely qualifies as the "Lost Villiage of the Ancients". It's more like the "Lost Hamlet of the Ancients"!

Well the facts dont lie

[boberth2o]

All scaling moved to first post.

[Myles]

Here is the scaling you've been waiting for:



Note: that I used the shots from 'Camelot' but those are comparisons on the ship itself now the ships to other ships. I would think that the FX guys would not mess up the porportions of the ships in the clip, maybe the size, but not the porportions. So these comparisions should be pretty good. Ok below is the new scaling for the ship cuz a guy commented that space suits are one 7ft tall instead of 6ft so.. here are the new dimensions:




Here is the link to my post --------------->Click Me!

And here is the Daedalus compared to the hive scaling:



And another scaling:

That's the problem with stargate FX, they could give a damn about scaling. I forgot where, but somewhere there was producer sketches or something that said Hives were 11km. Probably not remembering perfectly, so I'm sure someone will correct me. But then, like you showed, scaling says something totally different.