Asgard beam weapons against Ancient city shield??Plot theory for new epi

[a-parmar]

Hey I'm not sure if this has been brought up sorry if it has but I can't find it.

Basically what if the Apollo fired once at Atlantis's shield but obviosly aiming for the water lol.

What if it actually rip through the shield I would love a story line of the wraith capturing one of our ships and using it to fire on Atlantis.

{Ship not powered by ZPM, as our ships didnt have them on BAMSR}

Let me know

[Ranlier]

I don't beleive so. The Atlantis sheild was previously able to withstand bombardment by both the Wraith Fleet and the Replicator Beam.

I doubt the Asgard are that far ahead of the Ancients.

[a-parmar]

Fair point, but it would be cool to see a weapon that would do that. Maybe in the far future at I'm bored of seeing Atlantis under attack left right & centre.

[Mister Oragahn]

There's not much logic to apply here.
The beams will go through if the writers plainly decide that they will.

[a-parmar]

There's not much logic to apply here.
The beams will go through if the writers plainly decide that they will.

Yeh I always seem to leave that part out, and never realise that Stargate isnt real. Maybe maybe not. ha ha

[umopapisdn]

I doubt they would risk it, what if they found an asuran atlantis that had its sheild up, then we could test them. It depends how much more advnaced that sheild is compared to the ori sheilds.

[jnadreth]

The first episode they try it the Beam weapons are useless against them-the last time they use them the cities shield is taken out 1 hit wonder

[mickhhh]

if the city had a few zpm's it would last for days i think but if there were the Daedalus, Odyssey and apollo firing on it it would not last 10 mins.

[Ranlier]

There's a power consideration.

Can a weapon powered by a ZPM quickly outclass a sheild powered by ZPMs?

Even the Asuran Beam (powered by "an unlimited supply of ZPMs" according to McKay) took days to deplete the sheild.

Doesn't really make sense for them NOT to be roughly equal. The weapon and the sheild are unable to destroy each other unless one has a advantage (read: more ZPMs for power).

[PS. Suikoden reference for anyone who gets it]
PPS: Yes I know the 304 weapons aren't specifically powered by ZPMs but we can assume that whatever power source is equal or less]

[delrey]

I beleive that the the asgard weapon simply bypasses shields similar to ancient drones, in every episode i have watched it seems that there is absolutely no sheild impact whatsoever, only hull impact, so asgard weapon easily wins, however i beleive that because it is a shield bypasser it would be possible to counter the tech and render it less effective.

[dizzyg]

There's a power consideration.

Can a weapon powered by a ZPM quickly outclass a sheild powered by ZPMs?

Even the Asuran Beam (powered by "an unlimited supply of ZPMs" according to McKay) took days to deplete the sheild.

Doesn't really make sense for them NOT to be roughly equal. The weapon and the sheild are unable to destroy each other unless one has a advantage (read: more ZPMs for power).

[PS. Suikoden reference for anyone who gets it]
PPS: Yes I know the 304 weapons aren't specifically powered by ZPMs but we can assume that whatever power source is equal or less]

We know from the episode where the Asurans created Weir that their knowlege is left at the point where they last took it, in that case the last time that they did a mind probe on the team. I dont think the Asurans ever built on their knowlege supplied to them by the Lanteans so their Beam Weapon could have been millions of years behind the Lanteans before they left atlantis, this leaves a hell of a lot of time for the Lanteans ot have done shield upgrades which is why the Beam Weapon was less effective. Also the beam weapon is really Lantean by design so it stands to reason that their shields would know how to better stop the beam, maybe not completely but slow it down a hell of a lot.

[umopapisdn]

The first episode they try it the Beam weapons are useless against them-the last time they use them the cities shield is taken out 1 hit wonder

Did this happen in some unknown episode or is it just conjecture?

[Ranlier]

We know from the episode where the Asurans created Weir that their knowlege is left at the point where they last took it, in that case the last time that they did a mind probe on the team. I dont think the Asurans ever built on their knowlege supplied to them by the Lanteans so their Beam Weapon could have been millions of years behind the Lanteans before they left atlantis, this leaves a hell of a lot of time for the Lanteans ot have done shield upgrades which is why the Beam Weapon was less effective. Also the beam weapon is really Lantean by design so it stands to reason that their shields would know how to better stop the beam, maybe not completely but slow it down a hell of a lot.

The Asurans successfully replicated Atlantis, which was the pinnacle of Ancient Civilization. I'm sure their technology matches the Lantians, especially since they produce Aurora's and ZPMs.

Their weakness is that unlike the MW Replicators, they never acheived the technological Singularity, where the machines can create smarter machines than themselves. The reason for this has never been given.

[wise one]

the asurans were to always follow their programming even though they have self aware

they never considered why are they suddenly attacking the wraith or why not replicating offworld on another planet

they wanted to imitate the ancients so much they done everything they would do yet they never considered the fact that they could become free like all robots desire haaha lol

[jnadreth]

I'm just pointing out how Stargate Ex Dues Machina everything, they are likely to get some uber power sauce like Arcturas and whollop Atlantis. Don't worry, I'm just pointing out the path Stargate has taken-continue on please