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    Default to weir or not to weir

    Ok follow me....

    If you take the weir we know and love and add nannites does she change fundamentally?

    IF she does...then

    If we take a clone of weir and remove the nanites who is more the weir we know.

    The weir who changed or the clone who is the same?

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    Default Re: to weri or not to weir

    Quote Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Ok follow me....

    If you take the weir we know and love and add nannites does she change fundamentally?

    IF she does...then

    If we take a clone of weir and remove the nanites who is more the weir we know.

    The weir who changed or the clone who is the same?
    I think it depends on who is more the Weir we know physically or psychologically. If the clone had the essence of what makes Weir Weir then the clone. Unless the nannites didn't fundamentally change her then Weir would be Weir and not the cloned Weir. Weird no?

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    Default Re: to weri or not to weir

    Dude.

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    Default Re: to weri or not to weir

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruined_puzzle View Post
    Dude.
    lmao, a fitting answer

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    Default Re: to weir or not to weir

    Quote Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Ok follow me....

    If you take the weir we know and love and add nannites does she change fundamentally?

    IF she does...then

    If we take a clone of weir and remove the nanites who is more the weir we know.

    The weir who changed or the clone who is the same?
    Well, either way, the real Weir is always wanted (for me). However, I would like for her to still have that original Weir personality at least suppressed by the nanites, so that she is still our Weir inside. While the clone would be more like her, she wouldn't be Weir.
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    4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; )
    5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

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    Default Re: to weir or not to weir

    *shrugs* I don't understand this "a clone isn't a real person" line of reasoning, either on TV or in real life. As long as their personality is intact, then the clone is the same person. If their personality isn't intact, then it is a new person with similar memories. If their mind is totally wiped then the clone is just an identical twin sister/brother, cause identical twins are just a naturally occurring type of clone. Same DNA=clone.

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    Default Re: to weir or not to weir

    I know what you mean. What makes a person a person is it how they are made or what they are made of? If a man and a woman have a baby the old fashioned way and make a human form flesh and blood replicator and let them grow why is one a person and the other not? Could it have to do with experiencing esperiences rather than inheriting them.

    How about this. you copy a computer file and put it in another computer why is one better than the other?

    Hamburgers for thought

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    Default Re: to weir or not to weir

    my brain just poped.

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    Default Re: to weir or not to weir

    Quote Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    my brain just poped.
    That had to hurt.

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    Default Re: to weir or not to weir

    Maybe the nanite Weir will still have the fundamental qualities and 'essence' of Weir, but new priorities. Instead of thinking of the Atlantis expedition and Earth as 'her' people, she thinks of the crew of her replicator ship as 'her' people. That would still be Weir, just one that no longer agrees with us or our best interests.

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    Default Re: to weir or not to weir

    BRING BACK DR.WEIR

    The show isn't the same with Carter in charge
    Carter's cool, but not as leader of ATLANTIS.


    WEIR can fill those shoes like no one else can.

    GO WEIR

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    Default Re: to weir or not to weir

    I believe that a person is made up of their memories and their life experiences. A clone of weir may remember everything that Weir remembered and if the nanites did not change the original weir than there would be no reason for anyone to believe that she is not the true weir. The clone could never be treated as anyone but weir even though she isn't weir.

    In all I believe that if a clone has weir's memories and life experinces than she is truely just like the real weir.

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    Default Re: to weir or not to weir

    ummm... can we just have the real weir back please...

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    Default Re: to weir or not to weir

    Quote Originally Posted by IlluZen View Post
    Maybe the nanite Weir will still have the fundamental qualities and 'essence' of Weir, but new priorities. Instead of thinking of the Atlantis expedition and Earth as 'her' people, she thinks of the crew of her replicator ship as 'her' people. That would still be Weir, just one that no longer agrees with us or our best interests.
    I agree she is still the same Wier we know, but she just has different people that she is a part of and she would now go along with how the replicaters are, but still stand up for what she believes in.

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