I hope the Asurans learn to ascend

[Steve_the_Wraith]

Anyone agree with me?


In their own slightly creepy way some of the replicators seem to be genuinely good people

Spoiler:

Niam and Repli-Keller especially

Instead of wiping them all out helping them to ascend could end the war. If atleast one replicator achieves ascension then Oberoths faction (who believe ascension is impossible and that they should conquer instead) will loose control

[The_Carpenter]

I think its impossible for them to ascend, they are machines. And one would assume that the clones could not ascend either seeing as how the Asgard could not ascend due to their genetic manipulation of their genome.

[kirmit]

If the Asurans ascend it'll go one of two ways. Either they'll join the ranks of the other ascendeds in which case we'll never hear from them again or they'll turn against the ancients and we'll have Ori rip offs.

[g.o.d]

I hope they'll learn to ascend and dissapear. They won't bother on SGA anymore

[IcyNeko]

I think its impossible for them to ascend, they are machines. And one would assume that the clones could not ascend either seeing as how the Asgard could not ascend due to their genetic manipulation of their genome.

Well, the asgard got that way after many, many copies of themselves to the point where they lost key elements that allowed them to evolve to a higher state. This is a little different.

I still liked Ascension back when it was a "you had to be a good person to get there". That made it accessible to everyone who had a good heart, no matter who or what they were. The religions and philosophies that the writers modeled ascension after state that one can attain that level through self-will and true spirit. SO in that sense, replicators could have ascended.

But now this whole "evolutionary" bit is the key... and the only time a "good spirit" will get you in is if you were let in by an ancient. That sucks.

[s09119]

Well, the asgard got that way after many, many copies of themselves to the point where they lost key elements that allowed them to evolve to a higher state. This is a little different.

I still liked Ascension back when it was a "you had to be a good person to get there". That made it accessible to everyone who had a good heart, no matter who or what they were. The religions and philosophies that the writers modeled ascension after state that one can attain that level through self-will and true spirit. SO in that sense, replicators could have ascended.

But now this whole "evolutionary" bit is the key... and the only time a "good spirit" will get you in is if you were let in by an ancient. That sucks.

Well, it is more realistic this way. What natural process would ever depend on your good/bad score?

[IcyNeko]

I could answer that, but I'd be delving pretty deep in philosophy as well as new quantum sciences.

To put it simply, your mind controls an incredibly amount of matter, and conscious thoughts only account for a small portion of what your brain does every moment, where energy gets allocated and used, and what outcomes that might lead to.

[garhkal]

Anyone agree with me?


In their own slightly creepy way some of the replicators seem to be genuinely good people

Spoiler:

Niam and Repli-Keller especially

Instead of wiping them all out helping them to ascend could end the war. If atleast one replicator achieves ascension then Oberoths faction (who believe ascension is impossible and that they should conquer instead) will loose control

While i don't even think the new ones or the semi cloned/replicators could do so, i would love to see it happen, even if for nothing more than to show up Oberoth.

[Arturis]

If the Replicators learn to ascend it will just be the Ancients and the Ori all over again.

[StarSkimmer]

If the Replicators learn to ascend it will just be the Ancients and the Ori all over again.

No, I don't think so. Not if only the "good" Replicators ascend, anyway, and I do think there are good Replicators.

Maybe it's just me, but I thought it was pretty idiotic (not to mention downright mean) of the Alterrans to try and destroy the Replicators after they "failed" as an experiment - it seemed obvious that even though they are machines, they do think and feel like humans.

So yeah, I'd like to see some of the Replicators ascend. Can't help but feel sorry for a few of them, 'specially Niam.

[Arturis]

No, I don't think so. Not if only the "good" Replicators ascend, anyway, and I do think there are good Replicators.

Maybe it's just me, but I thought it was pretty idiotic (not to mention downright mean) of the Alterrans to try and destroy the Replicators after they "failed" as an experiment - it seemed obvious that even though they are machines, they do think and feel like humans.

So yeah, I'd like to see some of the Replicators ascend. Can't help but feel sorry for a few of them, 'specially Niam.

I think it was pretty idiotic for the Ancients to try to destroy the Replicators the way that they did. Any race capable of the things the Ancients did were certainly capable of generating a planet-wide EM pulse to permanently destroy them all. That and the Anti-Replicator tech we have is based on Ancient technology gleaned from O'Neill's Ancient repository infused mind was it not? Why did they not just wipe them out that way instead of using drones? Surely they weren't that incompetent. Perhaps the Anti-Replicator technology was developed at some point after this, but a large enough EM pulse would have accomplished the same goal.

And I don't mean that there would be good ascended Replicators and bad ascended Replicators. I mean that the ascended Ancients would immediately be at odds with the ascended Replicators.

Now that you mention it... it would be good to see Niam again. The actor did a great job and the character was a good one.

[DetriusXii]

I think it was pretty idiotic for the Ancients to try to destroy the Replicators the way that they did. Any race capable of the things the Ancients did were certainly capable of generating a planet-wide EM pulse to permanently destroy them all. That and the Anti-Replicator tech we have is based on Ancient technology gleaned from O'Neill's Ancient repository infused mind was it not? Why did they not just wipe them out that way instead of using drones? Surely they weren't that incompetent. Perhaps the Anti-Replicator technology was developed at some point after this, but a large enough EM pulse would have accomplished the same goal.

And I don't mean that there would be good ascended Replicators and bad ascended Replicators. I mean that the ascended Ancients would immediately be at odds with the ascended Replicators.

Now that you mention it... it would be good to see Niam again. The actor did a great job and the character was a good one.

And it seems like the Asurans are imitating their creators. I mean, why didn't the Asuran ship use one nuke to wipe out the city rather than drones. Would drones even do any damage to an Asuran body?

[g.o.d]

No, I don't think so. Not if only the "good" Replicators ascend, anyway, and I do think there are good Replicators.

the Ori were good at the beginnig. They became corrupted after their ascension

[Teelie]

Yes, there was a division in how to manage those who did not ascend. The Ori felt they should directly intervene whereas the other Ancients did not and had a more watch and do nothing approach.

Obviously neither side did it very well as the Ori became demi-gods and the Ancients let the Goa'uld essentially enslave the human race and let others run amok (the "old school" replicators for instance).

[wise one]

well most of the asurans have the anger biult in them and if they do ascend i dont think they will be happy to the ancients

and they probaly know about the ori and ancient situation and that ascended beings have being talking to them like in pegasus project