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    Visit the Episode GuideHEROES SEASON TWO
    OUT OF TIME
    EPISODE NUMBER - 207

    With the "Nightmare Man" coming for him, Bob tells Parkman that he is the only one who can stop the enemy. In the near future, Peter and Caitlin discover that a virus has wiped out most of the world's population. West discovers that Claire's father is the one who abducted him, and Hiro has one final chance to set history right after his own hero betrays him.

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    Kensei = Adam, saw that coming but its nice to finally know. And him with Peter? Hmm interesting. On the subject of Peter, does he have all of his memories back now? I wasn't sure.

    Glad to see Hiro back in our regular time. So I guess DL is one of Nikki's personalities now or something? And yep, we were right again, Adam is controlling Matt's father. And now we know for sure that the virus that was spread was indeed the Shanti virus.

    Good episode overall, this season seems to definitely be picking up more and more after each episode. Too bad it might be shortened due to the writer's strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xicer View Post
    Kensei = Adam, saw that coming but its nice to finally know. And him with Peter? Hmm interesting. On the subject of Peter, does he have all of his memories back now? I wasn't sure.

    Glad to see Hiro back in our regular time. So I guess DL is one of Nikki's personalities now or something? And yep, we were right again, Adam is controlling Matt's father. And now we know for sure that the virus that was spread was indeed the Shanti virus.

    Good episode overall, this season seems to definitely be picking up more and more after each episode. Too bad it might be shortened due to the writer's strike.
    I kind of saw the Adam thing coming too, but still, it was cool. Him with Peter should definitely be interesting.

    Definitely nice to see Hiro back in our time. Especially now that he's back with his buddy Ando.

    As for DL, I don't think he's one of her personalities. I think Matt's Dad was making her see DL, to turn her into a weapon for him.

    Overall, a very strong episode. The pace has definitely picked up on the season now. As for the writer's strike, that does suck. Personally, I'm hoping for a quick resolution.

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    Am I the only one thinking Adam=Claire's dad. Or maybe it's just wishful thinking in my part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruined_puzzle View Post
    Am I the only one thinking Adam=Claire's dad. Or maybe it's just wishful thinking in my part.
    No, I tossed it about for a little bit. The part that made me question it is Matt having Maury's power - maybe it runs in the family. But then I thought about Micah, Niki and DL and realized it doesn't necessarily run in the family. It'd be interesting but unlikely. Besides... I like Claire as Nathan's daughter better.

    Matt was awesome, BTW. I love his character growth and the pace of it.
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    Wow, I didnt really see Kensei=Adam. Guess I didnt really think about it much. At first, when I saw the burnt hand, I thought it might be Peter from the future.

    I guess we now know why Adam is getting his revenge on the world.

    So, I guess unless someone cuts Claire's head off, she'll live forever? Highlander anyone? lol.

    Great episode though. the best of the year. I loved how Claire finally stepped up to her dad. I also liked that west left. man, his character was annoying.

    I be the outbreak in the future is caused from the mutated virus. Saw that coming.

    It will be interesting to see how the relationship between Peter and Adam is. Are they friends? Coworkers? enemies?

    Also, not dissapointed we didnt see Sylar and the twins.

    No Monica and Micah though.

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    Best of the season for sure. Saw Adam coming, but yay! The Hiro/Kensei story ties into the here and now! About time! I'm looking forward to seeing Kensei with the rest of our heroes.

    Also, West. Claire. Please just forget about him. HRG is awesome, stick with him. Peter separated from irish girl- also awesome. More Matt! Yay!

    Don't like Mohinder being turned against HRG so quickly though.

    And as much as I like Monica and her power, this episode went a lot better without either of the storylines involving mostly new characters.

    And the moment when Hiro was all happy to see Ando and put on his glasses and was all excited! Best moment of the season methinks. But then to hear his dad died.....Poor Hiro.

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    I think I prefer the good Kensei over the bad Kensei.... I guess we'll see where it takes the story. Overall I have enjoyed these past two episodes more than the previous... it's nice to finally start getting some of the bigger picture of what is going on "arc" wise.

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    I'm liking bad Kensei.

    Unfortunately I did find this episode somewhat predictable. I figured Kensi would pull some sort of Wolverine and end up staying young because of his healing powers. I also figured out that he'd be Adam (which should be fun since Hiro returned and it sort of adds to this "i'll take everything you love" line since he's responsible for his father's death. I also figured out that Hiro would turn out to be Kensei.

    Yet despite all this I liked the episode. Shame they left the irish lass to diesase infected future.



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    i really didn't see Adam=Kensei. When the camp blew, i thought they'll drag the ancient Japan story more and later i just didn't think about it much ... so i was really surprised when he showed in that warehouse ....

    I love this season .... stories are coming together much sooner then last season and whole pace is much faster .... after 7 episodes we are deep into everything ... can't wait to see what direction will this take ... and reunion between Hiro and Kensei, that will be something ...

    I also never expected that underlaying story for this season will be as epic as this, which brings up one interesting question -> How many kids did Adam/Kensei have over time? Are all heroes his lineage? He had time to do it .... 400 years?

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    I honeslty can not understand how you people did not see the Adam and Kensei connection. Kensei was even in the previews saying hello to somoene. I thought it was obvious.

    My out on the limb guess is that the virus mutates again in Claire and becomes a pandemic.

    Overall I think it was a great epsidode and I LOVED when Kensei called Hiro weak. Hiro is one of my least favorite characeters. I never really warmed up to him but I know that a TON of people disagree with me.

    I'd like to know how Adam was controlling Matt's dad. You would think that Matt's dad would be nearly impossible to control by anyone who does not have his mental abilities.

    Did anyone else love that they finally revealed a part of Mrs. Petrellii's power? I knew it was a mental gift but its great that Peter has his memory back or at least the parts that matter.

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    OK, I admit this..I called the Kensei-as-murderer angle after the first episode, and I suspected that he would turn out to be Adam...but still, when he stepped out into the field of view and identified himself...*whew*...Sylar move over...the REAL bad*** has entered the building!

    But I do have to say...I am getting tired of Claire...I mean, I know she is a blond teenaged girl and all, but COME ON now is NOT the time for a snit( especially when even she recognized that what they did was stupid and dangerous)

    All in all though, 6/5....It is good to have the old Heroes back

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    Quote Originally Posted by silence View Post
    i really didn't see Adam=Kensei. When the camp blew, i thought they'll drag the ancient Japan story more and later i just didn't think about it much ... so i was really surprised when he showed in that warehouse ....
    I saw that one coming a mile away, but I was hoping that they'd do a better job and surprise me. Didn't take a writing strike to suck that hope right up.

    If Adam is the progenitor of the heroes line... then I predict that Claire will solve Adam. And that Maya y Alejandro will cause the ratings to plummet into submission.

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    This episode was predictable for those who pay super close attention, but was probably by far the best episode of the season.

    Hiro's storyline has gotten really epic and took a nice turn-- I can't wait to see what happens next.

    Claire's plot is still dull, although I hope it goes somewhere good soon, since West is now freaked out. I still think he's a spy for the company, though. The best part about their scenes today was the Mr. Muggles cameo.

    I'm glad they got the Matt-Daddy storyline pretty much done with-- they didn't stretch it out, so hopefully we can get onto the more interesting storylines.

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    Nice episode, was right about the virus being the shanti strain. My bet it that Claire doesn't offer a cure. Cellular regeneration is a bit different from a strong immune system. What happens is she doesn't get sick. Her regeneration keeps her cells from dying but do nothing to kill the virus

    My bet is that they will have to save Alejandro, syler wants to kill him. As much as I hate he Alejandro character I betting it's his power that will cure the mutated strain.

    Adam is still evil?? Man can that guy hold a grudge. You would think after a few hundred years you would forgive.

    To me it looked like bob already knew Surachi and HRG were together and was just suprised he admitted it.

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    Positives:
    + Matt-Maury arc is wrapped up. Interesting as it was, I was ready for the showdown.
    + Claire and HRG finally break. I've been waiting for that for so long now, especially after the way he continually treats her like she's beneath him.
    + Molly's awake!
    + Both Peter and Hiro are back in the present, and Peter has at least some of his memories and abilities back (knows how to use them, anyway).
    + Adam=Kensei was cool, especially that scene of him catching Peter's lightning on his hand. For a second, I thought he was going to pull an "Attack of the Clones" Yoda and fling it back at him.
    + West and HRG come into contact. You could really see the terror in West's eyes, too. I honestly think this explains why he can act so obsessive towards Claire sometimes; he doesn't trust anyone after the whole HRG abduction, and he just wants to make sure he doesn't lose this one friend he really has.
    + Seeing Niki go psycho was pretty cool.
    + We saw 2 or 3 of the Series of Eight get resolved in one episode!
    - And the big one: how on Earth are they gonna stop this new Dark Future?

    Negatives:
    - Niki might die, and now she's powerless.
    - Mohinder turned on HRG that fast? Please...
    - Caitlin is stuck in the Alternate Dark Future! I really liked her, and you could almost feel the despair rolling off Peter when he accidentally jumped back to 2007.
    - No Sylar, Monica, or Micah...
    - Some of the dialogue was a bit... bad.
    - Maury had been built up into this terrifying bad guy, but he seemed pretty weak here.


    Overall, an amazing episode, one of the best this season. And next week looks even better.
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    At least now we finally know where the logo comes from for certain, too. Adam has been using it all along. I don't think that he has been holding a grudge all this time though. Bob seemed to think that Adam had good intentions at the beginning of the Company. And Kaito was involved without incident, even when Hiro was born. I think that after finding others with powers, Adam became drunk with power. Over the prior 400 years, he had probably cooled off from Hiro's whole betrayal.

    I think it's odd that the virus exists in the future now, but there had been no mention of it in Five Years Gone. It's not like the New York incident and the development of a mutant virus would have any effect on each other.

    Also curious, just how powerful could Adam really be? So he has a healing ability. Claire has it. Peter has it and a bunch more. Sylar (with power) could easily kill him. Unless he can control elements like Bob hinted at, Adam is not all that big of a threat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaeis View Post
    At least now we finally know where the logo comes from for certain, too. Adam has been using it all along. I don't think that he has been holding a grudge all this time though. Bob seemed to think that Adam had good intentions at the beginning of the Company. And Kaito was involved without incident, even when Hiro was born. I think that after finding others with powers, Adam became drunk with power. Over the prior 400 years, he had probably cooled off from Hiro's whole betrayal.

    I think it's odd that the virus exists in the future now, but there had been no mention of it in Five Years Gone. It's not like the New York incident and the development of a mutant virus would have any effect on each other.

    Also curious, just how powerful could Adam really be? So he has a healing ability. Claire has it. Peter has it and a bunch more. Sylar (with power) could easily kill him. Unless he can control elements like Bob hinted at, Adam is not all that big of a threat.
    Has it occured to anyone that maybe Adam doesn't have cellular regeneration? Maybe he has empathic mimicry, which would explain why Bob showed Nathan an article on strange weather; Adam took regeneration from some evolved human in the past, gained weather manipulation sometime, and absorbed space-time manipulation from Hiro, allowing him to jump to the present (explaining his appearance).

    And has anyone else noticed a small descrepency? The future guy said that the first outbreak of the Shanti Virus was reported on March 20, 2007, but not viral outbreak was reported last season (the only possibility would be Molly, but her case wasn't reported to anyone outside of the Company).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaeis View Post
    Also curious, just how powerful could Adam really be? So he has a healing ability. Claire has it. Peter has it and a bunch more. Sylar (with power) could easily kill him. Unless he can control elements like Bob hinted at, Adam is not all that big of a threat.
    You mean he's not a big "physical" threat. Of all the people on the planet who are considered powerful, none of them are gifted with anything more than wits and cash. Adam has had time, lots of time, to get cash, to influence governments and build empires. He is one of the earliest known people with an ability, which gives him one up on every hero who only just discovered they were special.

    If someone told me they were 200+ years old, I'd trust they knew a few things more than me. That combined with natural charisma gives you power to convince people do what you want. He doesn't need physical power really... just charm and money.
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    So far, regeneration has been the only power that he has shown, so we have to assume that it's the only one he has until we know further. It's doubtful that he's been time travelling though, since he was involved continuously in the company for many years.
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