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    Why ancients create the wraith

    they bio-engineered the wraith to be their soldier-easily mass-produced cheap soldier. The wraith rebellled against the ancients

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    Why would the Ancients need soldiers? They were the most advanced species in Pegasus.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Tanith View Post
      Why would the Ancients need soldiers? They were the most advanced species in Pegasus.
      And who were they fighting against that they would need these soldiers?

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        #4
        Originally posted by tauriprivatesoldier View Post
        they bio-engineered the wraith to be their soldier-easily mass-produced cheap soldier. The wraith rebellled against the ancients

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        Why would they make them need to eat people? Why would they give them such primitive hyperspace & weapons tech? I imagine it would take a good half dozen HiveShips + Escorts (meaning many thousands of Wraith) to put up a fight against a single Ori Cruiser. And since the Ori were the only real enemy of the Ancients....
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          #5
          Originally posted by tauriprivatesoldier View Post
          they bio-engineered the wraith to be their soldier-easily mass-produced cheap soldier. The wraith rebellled against the ancients

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          Well, that's absurd isn't it? Why would they make something that feeds on humans? And the ancient kind off ruled the galaxy why would they need sodiers?
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            #6
            The Ancients did "create" the Wraith in a manner of speaking, but not intentionally. It happened because they seeded the original homeworld of the Iratus bug with humans.

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              #7
              So... if you die because a vampire drinks all your blood you become a vampire. Is it the same with the Wraith ? Lieutenant Ford became this weird semi-Wraith ( which by the way was not like Michael ) character because of this enzime that the one feeding on him injected Ford with. But none of them ( Ford or Michael ) was a full Wraith.

              Maybe the whole thing was a mutation in humans that were bitten ( grammar correction requested ) by the original Iratus bugs. Their DNA was re-written by the bug DNA, the way that big insect was messing with Teal'c.
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                #8
                Originally posted by tauriprivatesoldier View Post
                they bio-engineered the wraith to be their soldier-easily mass-produced cheap soldier. The wraith rebellled against the ancients

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                And where did you get this from? Your guess is completely wrong. The Ancient's did not make the Wraith. The Wraith evolved from the Iratus bug. No, they did not rebel against the Ancients.
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                  #9
                  I meant as in it was an experiment went wrong. They wanted to create an army of cheap and easy soldiers to take back the Ori galaxy. If the ancients did create the wraith, the wraith attacking the ancients can be considered rebelon under social-political definitions.

                  perharps somebody can explained to me just how does the iratus bug turns into the wraith by feeding on humans or ancients?

                  Remember, if feeding upon the life-force of a prey can change the iratus bug into a wraith, woul'dnt years of feeding upon humans make them more human?

                  Besides, wraith language is a deriative of the ancient language. there might be a stronger connection between the wraith and the ancients than we realise

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tauriprivatesoldier View Post
                    perharps somebody can explained to me just how does the iratus bug turns into the wraith by feeding on humans or ancients?
                    Iratus bugs somehow acquire human DNA when they are feeding. This caused them to mutate. See 'Instinct' and

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                    Originally posted by tauriprivatesoldier View Post
                    Remember, if feeding upon the life-force of a prey can change the iratus bug into a wraith, woul'dnt years of feeding upon humans make them more human?
                    This is quite possible unless they no longer aquire human DNA through feeding. Maybe Wraith evolved so they can't feed on any other species of animal because of acquiring DNA, though. It would be very awkward if different meals caused them to mutate in different ways.

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                    Steve: I had a peacock for breakfast. I'm not sure if these feathers suit my image, though. I think they make me look more Glam Rock than Goth.

                    We have no idea what Iratus bugs feed on when there are no humans around. Whatever their natural prey is, they must have adapted to not mutating on its DNA because they've remained bugs.

                    Originally posted by tauriprivatesoldier View Post
                    Besides, wraith language is a deriative of the ancient language. there might be a stronger connection between the wraith and the ancients than we realise
                    Aren't all human languages in the PG derived from the Ancient language? We know Wraith can talk and they have human worshippers. Perhaps they learned the Ancient derived language so they could communicate with their human worshippers.
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                      #11
                      Or they could have taken the language out their prey through telepathy (like the wraith keeper telepathyed Summers in Rising) and pass the language one to other wraiths via telepathy?

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                        #12
                        I've always said that followers of the Ori created the wraith. How or why this happened isn't known but:

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                        I'm guessing Chaya Sar is one of them, how do we know this? Wishful thinking and the fact that millions of people worship here as Althar, also, she seemed connected to them, like their lives depended on hers. I'm hoping along the lines that Chaya Sar and other ones were actual followers of the Ori way of life and was able to ascend long before the Alterans left Pegasus. The means they did this was via sucking the life force out of people by basing their technology on the iratus bug. But during their experiments, they incorporated human DNA into the iratus bug hoping to splice and change theirs to manually take life force from other people, but some actually ascended--- chaya sar---, we're not sure via the iratus bug DNA changing or using devices incorporating aspects of the methodology of the iratus sucking measures---- whatever the case, they did it, some ascended others didn't Chaya realized that her continuous 'godhood' depended on her people keeping her thus, since the other ascended ones was still and is still trying to rip her powers from her.

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                          can't believe i read this far!!
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Coremae View Post
                              I've always said that followers of the Ori created the wraith.
                              That's pretty much impossible withing the canon of the show. The Ori themselves didn't even know that the Ancients had seeded humans outside their own galaxy until they learned it from Daniel in 'Origin'.
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