The GLBT and GSA Thread

[Gatefan1976]

I see.

You seriously underestimate the importance of the courts and SCOTUS. Although they were not intended to be such, the reality today is that they are by far the most powerful branch of govt. by a long shot.

No, people put an importance on it that it should not have, and that's the real problem.

[Annoyed]

No, people put an importance on it that it should not have, and that's the real problem.

You say tomato, I say tomahto, but the fact remains that today, whatever the reason, the courts are by far the most powerful branch of the govt. They can and have overridden POTUS, The Congress, State laws and legislators, and even the will of the voters as expressed at the ballot box.

You know this as well as I; I've previously stated that Trump's impact on the courts is probably the most important aspect of his Presidency and you've agreed with me, although I'm pretty sure you consider it a negative impact, while I consider it a positive one.

It wasn't intended to be this way, but that is the way it is. So, in my scenario, I have to look at the big picture, and vote for the candidate which is likely to push the courts in the direction that I would prefer.

[jelgate]

You just proven you vote for party and not the canadate or issues

[Falcon Horus]

I also didn't mean to imply that one should vote for a person who is LGBTQ just because he/she is LGBTQ. A person's sexual orientation is a small part of their makeup. I look at a candidate who's stance on various issues are similar to mine.

I certainly didn't think you did.

We just had elections two weeks ago and I voted for the people that I most agreed with. This meant I voted on two different lists and checked a lot of boxes (voted for different people & our future mayor): red (socialist) for the communal elections, and orange (Christian-Democrats) for the provincial ones.

My sister thought I was coloring every box cause I was taking my sweet time.

[Annoyed]

You just proven you vote for party and not the canadate or issues

And the direction of the courts is not an issue?

[jelgate]

I swore that goalpost was closer

[Annoyed]

I swore that goalpost was closer

Nope, you're just suffering hallucinations. Too much bacon.

[jelgate]

Insults just prove my point

[Annoyed]

Insults just prove my point

Seriously, you don't think the judges nominated to the federal courts is a legitimate issue?

[jelgate]

Some day Ill find those goalposts

[Gatefan1976]

Seriously, you don't think the judges nominated to the federal courts is a legitimate issue?

Let me make this easy for you.
You AGREE it should not be an issue, then MAKE it an issue. You have a "lefty" in me, and a "righty" in Jel saying it should not be an issue, yet you ignore it because for YOU it is an issue.
It's NOT a legitimate issue.
It's a black president or a female doctor all over again.
Obama deported A LOT of illegals, and the left did not loose their minds over it because he used the process that existed. The left IS losing their minds about Trump, not because he is deporting illegals, but the WAY he is going about it.
That's what is so funny about your earlier post about people in the political discussion thread
https://forum.gateworld.net/threads/...hread/page1499
They did not change their minds, they had limits on what was considered a viable way to deal with a problem.
You want no limits, and if that's what you really want, go buy a semi, stand on the border and shoot illegals, I'm sure they are all bad people, and I am sure there is a market for your snuff vids.

[Annoyed]

Let me make this easy for you.
You AGREE it should not be an issue, then MAKE it an issue. You have a "lefty" in me, and a "righty" in Jel saying it should not be an issue, yet you ignore it because for YOU it is an issue.
It's NOT a legitimate issue.
It's a black president or a female doctor all over again.
Obama deported A LOT of illegals, and the left did not loose their minds over it because he used the process that existed. The left IS losing their minds about Trump, not because he is deporting illegals, but the WAY he is going about it.
That's what is so funny about your earlier post about people in the political discussion thread
https://forum.gateworld.net/threads/...hread/page1499
They did not change their minds, they had limits on what was considered a viable way to deal with a problem.
You want no limits, and if that's what you really want, go buy a semi, stand on the border and shoot illegals, I'm sure they are all bad people, and I am sure there is a market for your snuff vids.

I agree that it should not be a political issue; the courts should be apolitical. But I don't get to live in the world I want, I have to live in the real one.
And in the real world, the courts are highly politicized today, and it is in fact, the most powerful branch of govt. today.

If they weren't so important, why did the left go ballistic over Kavanaugh, even to the point of cooking up a vicious smear campaign to try to stop him. Must be pretty important to them, too.

[jelgate]

Because they didn't. It was all in your head.

Maybe GF took my goalposts

[Gatefan1976]

Because they didn't. It was all in your head.

Maybe GF took my goalposts

Sorry, what??
I just got some sticks and a net...…..

[Gatefan1976]

I agree that it should not be a political issue; the courts should be apolitical. But I don't get to live in the world I want, I have to live in the real one.
And in the real world, the courts are highly politicized today, and it is in fact, the most powerful branch of govt. today.

And how did they get there?
Go back to your boytoy Bork.
He got the boot, not for being a right winger (cause, if that was the standard, Scalia would have never have got on the SCOTUS), but because of his own behaviour, same deal with Clarence and the issues around him (but he still got on).
NO political party in US HISTORY has flat out denied the sitting POTUS a choice in the SCOTUS until Garland, and this is where your arguments turn into jokes.
The Dems have always had a outside reason to question the PERSON being put forward, they have never DENIED the POTUS the ability to put forward a candidate, or ask for them to be considered, that's all on your team.
If you wanted to make a case against Garland, you should have done it, and if it stuck, then he would not be worthy and you move on to the next candidate. I have ZERO issues with that system.
Instead, the right just said "nope", EVEN THOUGH not a few months before his nomination the right was saying how much of a good jurist he would have been, the same way Mueller is now getting attacked because the "deep state" (A trump appointed official these days) put him into a "position of power".

If they weren't so important, why did the left go ballistic over Kavanaugh, even to the point of cooking up a vicious smear campaign to try to stop him. Must be pretty important to them, too.

What did they cook up?

Pipe bombs?
Sorry, that's your side (except they are false flags sent by some soros worshipping socialist leftist, yeah?)
Ford would gain nothing by outing herself, not even her day in court as the Statute of limitations was expired on rape.
Stop a right wing SCOTUS?
Did she get raped by all potential candidates for the job?
(look out, the plan is getting sketchy now).
Lastly
Did they say "no choice for you", or did they say "not this guy"?
If it's no choice, you can accuse dems of doing what republicans have already done. If it's "not this guy" which Dems HAVE done twice already, ask for an investigation.