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    After watching the SG-1 episode 'Cure' in season 6 a thought came to me. How could a queen 'blend' with a host without creating a giant bulge in there head?

    Its just a thought that came to me when the tok'ra queen (Algeria?) blended.

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    Didn't it leave the big sac thing behind in the tank when it took a host?

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    ^^ looked like it to me
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    yeah it did. you can clearly see it left in the tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Tobias View Post
    Didn't it leave the big sac thing behind in the tank when it took a host?
    Yes it did.

    I have my own question. Goa'uld are smart and sentiant aliens however a queen (which should be very samrt) spends all its time in a tank alone. Surly that is not boring as HELL!
    Also in evolution SG-1 and jacob where looking at a Goa'uld queen while the queen looked back. Surly trhe queen saw the C4 being planted and knew who SG-1 where so why did it not try get some attantion to warm the base? It should have like a warning button in the tank lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MechaThor View Post
    Yes it did.

    I have my own question. Goa'uld are smart and sentiant aliens however a queen (which should be very samrt) spends all its time in a tank alone. Surly that is not boring as HELL!
    Also in evolution SG-1 and jacob where looking at a Goa'uld queen while the queen looked back. Surly trhe queen saw the C4 being planted and knew who SG-1 where so why did it not try get some attantion to warm the base? It should have like a warning button in the tank lol.
    I think somewhere during that scene someone said that her brain activity was very low, she was spawning new larvae for the kull warriors. So maybe that's why. If her brain wasnt up to normal status perhaps she didnt realise it.
    Also Anubis didnt expect anyone to be able to invade his base, so why would she need a warning button? Only kull warriors could enter through the stargate due to its shield.
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    hathor seemed to be able to give birth to goa'uld whilst in a host. and also i'm pretty sure that without a host a goauld symbiote is not fully sentient, i've always thought the sybiote hijacks the brain of the host and "downloads" its genetic memory into it to use as its own, sort of like a new hard drive with an OS installed on it (the sybiote) being plugged into an existing computer (the human host). the hard drive may have all the information on it, but cant really do anything with it until it is connected to a processor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvatarIII View Post
    hathor seemed to be able to give birth to goa'uld whilst in a host. and also i'm pretty sure that without a host a goauld symbiote is not fully sentient, i've always thought the sybiote hijacks the brain of the host and "downloads" its genetic memory into it to use as its own, sort of like a new hard drive with an OS installed on it (the sybiote) being plugged into an existing computer (the human host). the hard drive may have all the information on it, but cant really do anything with it until it is connected to a processor.
    The whole Hathor stuff contradicts all other notions about queens. I think that the Hathor queen stuff isn't canon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icedragon View Post
    After watching the SG-1 episode 'Cure' in season 6 a thought came to me. How could a queen 'blend' with a host without creating a giant bulge in there head?

    Its just a thought that came to me when the tok'ra queen (Algeria?) blended.
    I always wondered why Hathor didn't have a bulge, well, somewhere, in the episode Hathor.

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    Like all long running sci-fi shows - there are bound to be a developmental oops along the way. There are years seperating the Hathor and Ageira storylines.

    Hathor did shed her larvae into the hot tub with the intent of having new "human" jaffa to do her bidding. The other queens were not in a host, and their sole purpose of mass producing spawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesenet View Post
    Like all long running sci-fi shows - there are bound to be a developmental oops along the way. There are years seperating the Hathor and Ageira storylines.

    Hathor did shed her larvae into the hot tub with the intent of having new "human" jaffa to do her bidding. The other queens were not in a host, and their sole purpose of mass producing spawn.
    I think Egeria is properly depicted, Hathor made Jack into a Jaffa but later we find out that Jaffa and humans are different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechaThor View Post
    Yes it did.

    Also in evolution SG-1 and jacob where looking at a Goa'uld queen while the queen looked back. Surly trhe queen saw the C4 being planted and knew who SG-1 where so why did it not try get some attantion to warm the base?

    It was a prisoner of Anubis. Personally i think she'd rather die than be kept in a tank for the rest of her life.
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    Maybe Hathor left her host to spawn at one point. She wasn't in any danger for a while due to her influence on the men as long as she was in close proximity and could have found another way to keep sending out that drug. Her host did look to be asleep in the tub (perhaps she got one of the male medics to lightly drug the host for the duration) and we don't know how long it took for the Hathor symbiote to do whatever it does to develop the sac of larvae!!!

    The Queens must decide when they spawn going by what Hathor did. In the case of Egeria and the Goa'uld Queen Anubis held prisoner, they were somehow forced to and stopped from going back to a host when finished thus keeping the cycle going.

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    I think maybe after enough time in a female host a queen can hijack the reproductive system for its own use. Rather icky thought tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkey_man132 View Post
    I think Egeria is properly depicted, Hathor made Jack into a Jaffa but later we find out that Jaffa and humans are different.
    Do we? I really don't think we do... all Jaffa have to be given their pouches by a priest through an operation. And Ryac wouldnt have needed a symbiote until this happened... Only that tribe of female Jaffa had been bread to NEED a symbiote...


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    Yeah, I think the best explaination is the queen symbiote is capable of using and altering a host's reproductive system for it's own use. Didn't she need Daniel's..help..before spawning those things, too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Tobias View Post
    Yeah, I think the best explaination is the queen symbiote is capable of using and altering a host's reproductive system for it's own use. Didn't she need Daniel's..help..before spawning those things, too?
    REALLY icky.

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    Hathor just used her belly device to create a pouch. Jaffa are genetically twisted humans to serve as hosts with more efficiency.

    I thought Egeria looked like that because she was actually sick or something. the other Tok'ra seemed shocked/disgusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Oragahn View Post
    Hathor just used her belly device to create a pouch. Jaffa are genetically twisted humans to serve as hosts with more efficiency.

    I thought Egeria looked like that because she was actually sick or something. the other Tok'ra seemed shocked/disgusted.
    I think the Tok'ra where shocked/disgusted because not only was it there Queen but a sentiant being was also locked in a tiny tank like an animal.

    As far as the HATHOR stuff goes i think its now an episode which we should all just 4get happened as there are too many diffrences and plot holes.
    1. Humans being turned into Jaffa with little ease seems unliky. As the whole jaffa race are genetically altered and diffrent from birth with life cycles which need them to have a goa'uld at about 10 years old.
    2. Human Jaffa turning back into Humans with nervous systems included. Seems unliky without the DNA splicer. If they could do that 2 Jack why not Teal'c?
    3. We now know the Queens Spawn out of the host in a large red form. Not within a host.

    There4 instead i just remember the HATHOR episode as... We find hathor on earth - she uses a chemical 2 control men and take over the base - she escapes to her unground base on another planet
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