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    Visit the Episode GuideLOST SEASON THREE
    THE BRIG
    EPISODE NUMBER - 319

    To stay in good graces with the Others, Locke enlists help from Sawyer to kill a man who has caused them both great pain. The beach camp residents are convinced that the new arrival may be their ticket off the island, but can no longer trust Jack.

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    Well that is a fantastic episode. Swayer finaly gets his revenge.
    So they are in hell. And ben is the devil?
    Another highpoint in the faith vs. science issue.
    now faith gets the pole position.
    But then again it could be all part of the experiment.
    How would people react when they think they are in hell. And naomi would be a plant in that case.

    Lost gets back to the mysterious feel of the beginning. I love it.

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    Yeah I'm not completely convinced they are in hell. Lost is famous for setting you up to think one thing then bam, changing it around once you get comfortable with that explanation. Think about it...Locke's dad could have been knocked out in the ambulance in Florida and brought to the island to mess with Locke. We all know Ben loves to mess with people. Or maybe they are dead. 2 people in the last 2 episodes said it. I just feel like it may be more complicated than that, knowing the writer's MO...

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    Locke's dad had no specific knowledge that he was in Hell. That was just his opinion.

    I'm more curious to know what Juliette wanted to tell Kate. And Jack's clearly turned into a real jerk. First he's upset no one told him about the woman because they don't trust him, then he blatantly tells Juliette not to tell Kate something important.
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    I hate Jack more and more. Wonder when Kate is gonna see him for who he really is, a jerk who doesn't care about her anymore.
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    Fantastic episode. I totally know they are NOT in hell.. remember what Penny said to Desmond, when you have a lot of money you can find anyone, so when Ben said get me the man from Talahasse, remember they know everything about all of them including where there family is at all times, so someone ran into his car, and some "ambulance" picked him up and put him on a plane or something.

    It was creepy when Naomi said that they put the cameras down there and all the bodies were there, but I totally think it was all a set up. What I wanna know is, why dont they show Naomi the plane wreckage, it was just on the beach wasnt it? or how about the front of the plane that Kate, Jack and Charlie found in the first episode.
    I think Sayid is cool but he needs to cool it a bit, with blaming Naomi right off the bat, I thought Jin, Charlie, Desmond and Hurley saw her helicopter crash.
    they denied seeing it. But I LOVE the fact that they are working togethter and not telling Jack.

    Seeing Sawyer and Anthony Cooper was cool, when he ripped the letter I was like woah boy you got it comming now, and at least Sawyer got his revenge, now the others can come for him too since he released his hold on his past by killing him.
    But I wonder what next week will bring, I wonder what Juliet wanted to tell Kate, stupid Kate, I cant believe that she told Jack about Naomi. I mean shes so stupidly vulnerable. At least Sawyer has Juliets tape recorder, but Jack already knows whats going on.. SIGH, I miss when Jack wasnt a jerk!

    Anyways cant wait for the man behind the curtian next week!

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    Oh... my... god... this show just keeps getting better! (I was worried for a few eps in the beginning of the season, but they have regained my faith!)

    First, the twists & interconnectedness of the characters just keep getting better & better. Who knew that Locke's bad dad was the man responsible for Sawyer's parents' deaths (not directly, but still...)

    Second, I LOVE that people are finally not trusting Jack. He is practically atatched at the hip to an Other and believes her word above all the people who have trusted him. I know that he doesn't realize he is being suckered, and I think Juliet is probably a little conflicted about her actions, but it doesn't change the fact that you can't trust her and, by extension, Jack.

    I haven't been a Jack fan in a while, for a myriad of reasons, and with every ep I hope more and more that
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    he will be one of the five people who they have said will die on the island before season's end... yeah, I know, I know, it won't happen, but I can dream, can't I?! Lockes's daddy is dead, so that leaves four.


    Ben is EVIL! Some of the other Others I can sort of justify their behaviors... sort of... but Ben makes conscious decisions to choose the greater of two evils at every fork in the road of his life. He is a Very Bad Man and I love that they added him to the show! I needed a character that I loved to hate!

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    Maybe there's a good reason Jack didn't tell Kate whatever it was, maybe he doesn't want to worry her. We don't really know what happened to Jack when he was with the Others, at least not yet.
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    Im also really not liking Jack.. I LOVED him at the beginning, but man in the last few episodes, hes just so vulnerable. Trusting Juliet.. looser.

    I loved when Kate was like didnt you hear me your friends dont trust you. I mean stupid Jack and stupid Kate for telling him what was going on. I think it will come down to some sort of showdown and Jack is going to LOOSE big time, in terms of his fellow castaways.
    It sucks cause Im really not liking Jack Juliet and Ben jsut cause they are so evil and manipulated, and I'm lovin the whole Sawyer and Sayid working together and Desmond too was happy that Sayid was there. Even though I didnt like that whole thing where he didnt think that she really fell from the sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jds1982 View Post
    Maybe there's a good reason Jack didn't tell Kate whatever it was, maybe he doesn't want to worry her. We don't really know what happened to Jack when he was with the Others, at least not yet.
    From the spoilers I've seen, "The Plan" is BIG....very BIG so considering that they be under surveillance by the Others, Jack's secrecy is understandable in my opinion. As for him being a Jack-arse, well, my personal bet is that it is somehow related to the plan, but I've been wrong before, so we'll see.
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    Hahaha, I started twigging that it was Locke's dad that Locke had held for Sawyer (James) as everybody's past is linked and he was a renowned con man - as was the original 'Sawyer'.

    HELL?!

    It's most definately not. It was just Locke's dad talking. He detailed how he got there from the outside world, plus Naomi's arrival means that it's hardly hell. Oh, and Desmond. IMO the Flight 815 was replicated probably FOR the Others so that they could do what they will with the survivors and to prevent the outside world looking for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alaskannut View Post
    From the spoilers I've seen, "The Plan" is BIG....very BIG so considering that they be under surveillance by the Others, Jack's secrecy is understandable in my opinion. As for him being a Jack-arse, well, my personal bet is that it is somehow related to the plan, but I've been wrong before, so we'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddhawasanancient View Post
    Yeah I'm not completely convinced they are in hell.
    they are not in hell. they are not in purgatory. they are not in heaven. they are on an island in the pacific.
    the end.


    so, this was one of the best episodes of the series. hands down. unbelievable.
    Sawyer with Sawyer was amazing.

    but OMG Lost sucks now, right!! It's going to get canceled!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rarocks24 View Post
    Others' Civil War?
    You decide:
    Spoiler:
    Jack devises a plan to do away with “The Others” once and for all (from spoilerfix.com)


    Big enough?

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    I must say ... this show is getting weirder and weirder but I love it great ep

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    Quote Originally Posted by katielovesdaniel View Post
    Im also really not liking Jack.. I LOVED him at the beginning, but man in the last few episodes, hes just so vulnerable. Trusting Juliet.. looser.

    I loved when Kate was like didnt you hear me your friends dont trust you. I mean stupid Jack and stupid Kate for telling him what was going on. I think it will come down to some sort of showdown and Jack is going to LOOSE big time, in terms of his fellow castaways.
    It sucks cause Im really not liking Jack Juliet and Ben jsut cause they are so evil and manipulated, and I'm lovin the whole Sawyer and Sayid working together and Desmond too was happy that Sayid was there. Even though I didnt like that whole thing where he didnt think that she really fell from the sky.
    I agree with you and I loved that too when Kate said it to Jack. Even though she told him what she promised Sayid she wouldn't, she still let him know that she doesn't approve of what he's doing, trusting Juliet and all, alienating his friends.

    I hope you're right about Jack losing big time in terms of his fellow castaways but I'm not too sure it will happen. Jack is too much of a hero to TPTB, I doubt they'd do that. I'm afraid he'll be the good guy in the end, as expected. Sure, now they're making us believe he's up to no good teaming up with Juliet but he's probably planning how to rescue them all from the others as people have already stated here. Boring.


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    so, this was one of the best episodes of the series. hands down. unbelievable.
    Sawyer with Sawyer was amazing.
    I agree, James with Sawyer was amazing! Josh Holloway did great!
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    I'm thinking Locke may not live out the season. I think that Other was right--Locke was special. Operative word being was. And Ben didn't like it, so he manipulated Locke into doing something that would negate that. Locke took his trust off the island and put it onto Ben. In doing so, he caused the death of another and put that blood on Sawyer's hands. Not the actions of someone special, but of someone who is trying for a shortcut or trusting the wrong thing. He's changed...as Ecko did. That didn't end well.

    It's sad....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celcool View Post
    I hate Jack more and more. Wonder when Kate is gonna see him for who he really is, a jerk who doesn't care about her anymore.
    Really? I totally love Jack.

    Now Kate ... never liked her from day one and am finally glad she hooked up with Sawyer.

    I thought this was a great episode! I do not think they are in hell either.

    But I am curious about what Naomi said about them finding the plane and there were no survivors.

    Does anyone remember if there was a Dharma logo on flight 815? I had thought there was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzotchka View Post
    Really? I totally love Jack.
    I never liked him, still i wouldn't want him killed off and I don't expect him to be either. It's usually like this, either you like Sawyer or Jack. I love Sawyer. I discuss Lost with a Jack fan so it's not a problem with me to accept other views as well.

    Now Kate ... never liked her from day one and am finally glad she hooked up with Sawyer.
    I'm glad about that too, seeing as I'm a Skater. Sawyer and Kate are my faves but I don't like what they're doing with Kate lately, they're ruining Skate sort of. Giving us something and nothing at the same time. I want some decent conversation between the two of them, not just sex.

    I'm not into those details, easter eggs and such so I wouldn't know about the dharma logo.
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    i dont think this is hell or purgatory...i think there is something going on with inter-dimensional travel. this is a sci fi show...so it's not a stretch. if this were hell, what's the deal with the button every 108 minutes? how can you explain desmond and his gf trying to find him? how can you explain good people like hurley and charlie, or even locke existing in hell? what about the pilot from the first episode? and what about all the people that died on the island?
    although..if it's purgatory, that would explain the black monster...but not the polar bear.
    there is serious sleight of hand going on here...it's not hell..they're not dead.

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