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    GateWorld The Sound of Drums (2912/312)

    Visit the Episode GuideDOCTOR WHO SERIES 29
    THE SOUND OF DRUMS
    EPISODE NUMBER - 2912

    Upon returning to Martha's home, she and the Doctor discover that the escaped evil Time Lord they are seeking is the one person they never suspected.

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    All I can say is Oh Wow, this is the first time I've actually been gripped by Dr Who, I actually put down my knitting for this and those that know me know this is a rarity.

    Where do I start, well John Simm looks spookily like Tony Blair when he was younger, it must be the insincere smile and the mad glint in the eye. Can we post a drone to GWB? and I certainly didn't see the end coming, it was edge-of-the-seat stuff for me and our version of The Daedalus to boot and a bit of Gallifrey background. I can't wait until next week to see what happens but I'm frakkin' working, I am so tempted to call in sick. And what's with Mrs Saxon, she's as barking as her old man, what would have been a nice touch was to have had Tony Booth (Cherie Blair's dad) to have had a cameo. Roll on next week

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    Wow!!!
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    WTH! I don't quite know what to make of this episode. It was definitely an eye opener that's for sure! I really enjoyed the ep, but there was something that felt a bit off at times. I can't quite put my finger on what it was though. Maybe it was the sight of Spectrum's Skybase floating in the clouds. Yeah. That was it. They nicked Skybase from Captain Scarlet. The rotters.

    I liked the Doctor's backstory about Gallifrey and how the Master came to be. The explanation of Jack's involvement with Torchwood was good as well. Erm, I can't think of much more at the minute. Oh and there were couple of moments that had me laughing.

    Let's see what part two brings...

    edit: I went and missed most of the phone conversation between the Doctor and the Master. Bleh.

    You weren't knitting a scarf by any chance, Reefgirl?
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    Wow indeed, backstory for both The Master and the Time War itself, excellent stuff.

    Overall: 8/10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missster.Freeman View Post
    WTH! I don't quite know what to make of this episode. It was definitely an eye opener that's for sure! I really enjoyed the ep, but there was something that felt a bit off at times. I can't quite put my finger on what it was though. Maybe it was the sight of Spectrum's Skybase floating in the clouds. Yeah. That was it. They nicked Skybase from Captain Scarlet. The rotters.

    I liked the Doctor's backstory about Gallifrey and how the Master came to be. The explanation of Torchwood was good as well. Erm, I can't think of much more at the minute. Oh and there were couple of moments that had me laughing.

    Let's see what part two brings...

    edit: You weren't knitting a scarf by any chance, Reefgirl? I went and missed most of the phone conversation between the Doctor and the Master. Bleh.
    You missed a really cool chunk then. that was a great moment. would have been better face to face though.

    I loved the bit when they killed that journalist woman.

    *open door* AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH
    *Closes door. silence*
    *opens door*
    AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

    That's some sound proofing.
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    that was possibly the best episode of the new series so far, however there was one detail thatreally annoyed me, martha's brother was not in brighton, i come from brighton and that was not it, rant over

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    John Simm is awesome. The music at the end was not.

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    Wow. Gripping ep. Is it next week yet, dammit?

    I nearly cried when I saw what the Master had done to the TARDIS. How can that ever be fixed?! And I'm so hideously impatient to know what the Toclafane really are...

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    the two things that annoyed me and there are only tiny niggles are:

    Cloud base valiant lol.

    And the doctors ageing for various reasons.

    First the seizure he had looked wrong.
    the aged look seemed a bit over done and also:
    Timelord regenerations should live longer than human beings yet when he was aged to 100 he looked 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-90_177 View Post
    You missed a really cool chunk then. that was a great moment. would have been better face to face though.

    I loved the bit when they killed that journalist woman.

    *open door* AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH
    *Closes door. silence*
    *opens door*
    AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

    That's some sound proofing.
    Aye. That was it! It also made me think of Ace Ventura, oddly enough.

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    Also... forgot to say: Actually getting Time Lord backstory... *seeing* Gallifrey!! Wow!!

    Quote Originally Posted by cvife View Post
    that was possibly the best episode of the new series so far, however there was one detail thatreally annoyed me, martha's brother was not in brighton, i come from brighton and that was not it, rant over
    That's the nature of television. Very few TV shows or films are shot in the actual locations mentioned in the film. The entire *show* is filmed in and around Cardiff...

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    If there's a bad thing about this episode, it's that I've never before had such a long run of eps for any individual show which have so impressed me that I have to give it massive props and kudos; normally I get at least a 'fine', 'meh' or 'grrr' ep every three or four, which conveniently proves to me that I'm not a slavish adulator of all things the show gives.

    Oh soddit, paint me besotted fangirl then.

    Jellybabies! Teletubbies! Ann Widdecombe! Oh my god they killed Jack! (who's now even more of a Kenny than Daniel ever was )

    I think they trod a fine line with the wacky crazy Master. Not many actors could have managed it; Simms coped and more. He made sociopathic, psycopathic lunacy look like such FUN.

    DT was on top form talking about Gallifrey and the Master, and I liked the flashbacks. (Nice to see one of those Time Lord headpieces again) Better still was his conversation with The Master. Touching on one side, such black comedy on the other.

    The show does suit three heroes. Doctor and Martha is good, but +Jack is better. Same with Coctor and Rose plus Jack or -Ri- Mickey.

    I liked the President. Any American person reading this, please tell me: when a yank calls someone an "ass", are they calling them a "donkey" or an "arse"? (it was a great line either way.)

    Mrs Saxon... what luck for The Master to find someone with the same sort of murderous loopiness as him in only a few months on Earth.

    That's the best Soundtrack I've ever heard for an End Of The World, too

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    I love that episode.

    Wow seriously, amazing episode. Fantastic even. I loved the effect when the atmosphere of the Earth seemed to part and reveal a sort of hell dimension beneath. I just hope that Torchwood don't turn up next ep to save the day (god I hate Torchwood), and the Daleks better stay out of the climax too.

    The flashback to Gallifrey was awesometastic. The Master was beautifully portrayed by John Simm (is that his the name? The guy from Life on Mars?), the cocky, cheeky parallel of the doctor only he's a complete pshyco. Just an awesome episode, and great cliff hanger.

    I liked the music that played when Martha beamed off in the end (just like the music played in Doomsday when Rose becomes trapped on the parallel world).

    What are those flying metal ball thingies anyway?
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    That episode was awesome. Truly awesome and now one of my faves. It had me on the edge of my seat. Truly amazing. Well done RTD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missster Freeman
    You weren't knitting a scarf by any chance, Reefgirl?
    No a pair of socks, one of the first things I knitted down here on the South Coast was a scarf (I used to cycle to work and needed a long scarf) it got stretched longer over the years and became affectionaly known as my 'Dr Who scarf'

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    so what are peoples theories on what the metal ball things are? afterall the master did say that if the doctor knew what they wereit would break his hearts.
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    Well blessed screaming Atremis on a Gods-damned wholewheat cracker! What a corker of an ep that was!

    "What this country needs, right now - is a Doctor..."

    The aircraft carrier Valiant (oh God, my mate Cap'n Dave of the Glasgow based Sci-Fi group USS Valiant is gonna be so smug) looked like a cross between Captain Scarlet's Cloudbase (or Skybase if you watch the CGI cartoon) and Nick Fury's SHIELD heli-carrier from Marvel Comics. Looked bloody cool though.

    And the return of UNIT! Hurrah! *performs Dance of Joy with extra emphatic pointy finger gestures*

    Loved the sly wee winks to the Third and Fourth Doctors. During the scene where the Master/Saxon is meeting the US President, his long coat is lined with red silk - much like the opera cape the Third Doctor wore occasionally. Then just prior to the President making the worldwide broadcast about the Toclafane (or however you spell it), the Master/Saxon offers his "wife" a jelly baby - a bag of which the Fourth Doctor used to carry about with him all the time.

    I may just 'splode from the sheer excitement of it all.

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    so what are peoples theories on what the metal ball things are? afterall the master did say that if the doctor knew what they wereit would break his hearts.
    The remains of Time Lords maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruTak View Post
    Loved the sly wee winks to the Third and Fourth Doctors. During the scene where the Master/Saxon is meeting the US President, his long coat is lined with red silk - much like the opera cape the Third Doctor wore occasionally. Then just prior to the President making the worldwide broadcast about the Toclafane (or however you spell it), the Master/Saxon offers his "wife" a jelly baby - a bag of which the Fourth Doctor used to carry about with him all the time.

    I may just 'splode from the sheer excitement of it all.
    S I G BruTak! Good spot on the previous Doctor references, btw. I knew there was something familiar about the jacket the Master was wearing at the airfield. I totally missed the jellybaby line though.
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