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    Daniel Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    This is not a vs thread

    I was just wondering what the differnce between the 2 are. I've heard of both of them but I don't know the differnce if anyone knows please tell me. Also what would you prefer on your ship?

    What are the advantages and disadvantages of both?
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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Slipstream technology has yet to be successfully implemented, proving to be very unstable and potentially fatal. Your answer should be VERY clear from here.

    The theory is that slipstream is passing a quantum field in front of a vessel's trajectory, in essence creating a subspace tunnel in front of the ship in question. Instead of creating a full path between two points before the ship jumps in (as a wormhole would), it creates it as it goes. There needs to be constant calculations in order for the slipstream to be stable, which requires ever so fast computers.

    On the other hand, Hyperdrive magnetically propels the ship into another dimension where the speed of light is different, allowing ships to travel faster. Your.. warp field.

    Slipstream is supposed to be faster than a warp field's subspace. So in theory, it's faster than hyperspace, if hyperspace were as fast as warp-based subspace.

    In short, Slipstream never worked. Why are you asking?

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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Slipstream is no where as fast as hyperspace...well, Asgard hyperspace anyway. It takes 3 months to cover a few tens of thousands of light years.

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    Exclamation Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Edited: I made a mistake

    Slipstream travel in Andromeda is very fast. In one mission Andromeda travelled 66 MILLION light years!

    But, it has several disadvantages over hyperspace.

    One of the simplest is, you cannot communicate. You don't get things like subspace/hyperspace communication.

    One interesting thing about moving through the slipstream is that travel time between points has very little to do with the distance actually traveled. If a pilot is lucky, and the stream unfolds just right, the ship could transit between galaxies in minutes. But put an unlucky pilot at the helm and the same trip could take weeks or even months.
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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Again, and this is why I hate comparing two different series, you're comparing celery to pineapples. Each scifi series handles things WAY different from the next. Why are you comparing?

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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Quote Originally Posted by IcyNeko View Post
    Again, and this is why I hate comparing two different series, you're comparing celery to pineapples.
    I try not to compare them... I just throw em in a bowl and eat 'em up! Mmmmmm.... Celery and Pineapples, together at last...

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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Quote Originally Posted by fugiman View Post
    This is not a vs thread

    I was just wondering what the differnce between the 2 are. I've heard of both of them but I don't know the differnce if anyone knows please tell me. Also what would you prefer on your ship?

    What are the advantages and disadvantages of both?
    What kind of slipstream drive are you talking about? Andromeda's is way different then Halo's.

    In Andromeda, slipstream is very chaotic, it has to be controled by an organic lifeform, it doesn't like computer controls for some reason. If you not careful, you can travel in time.

    In Halo, the ride is a lot smoother. Computers do all the calculating and piloting, and with Cortana at the controls (of covie ships), ships can enter and exit slipstream in atmospheres. Human slipstream is years behind the Covenant; it is slower and less percise.

    Hyperdrive has been described well enough already.
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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Well in halo, slipstream is essentially the same idea as hyperspace, but not quite as good.

    Slipspace travel times vary, and it takes month just to travel between systems that by stargate standards are close together.
    which is why UNSC and Covenant havent even explored half of the galaxy.

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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    they are the same thing in essence. but are completely different animals.

    Slipstream drive on the pillar of autumn required large amounts of power and 8 fusion reactors to get it going.

    Hyperdrives are just as power hungry. the prometheus had to stopto allow the hyper dirve engines to cool before another jump. so in answer i would have the Slipstream drive.

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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Halo slipstream is slow. In Halo translight engines allows ships to enter slipspace by creating black holes. Hyperdrive in sg is waaay better..

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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Icynekos original post was pretty spot on except combining warp and hyperspace travel is wrong, they are unrelated.

    Hyperspace travel is what you said it was but no warp fields, those are the realm of Star Trek and is something else entirely.

    Warp travel does not happen in subspace but in our space and happens by using fictional energy and matter to bend space around the ship and the path of the ship thus shortening the trip.

    Slipstream drives are very different from series to series so they are both better and worse then hyperdrives, depending on what series you are talking about.
    If you are talking Star Trek they are worse.
    Andromeda, depends on the circumstances but they are mostly better.
    Don't know much about Halo so can't speak for it.

    All of these are ofcaurse beat by the Navigators of Dune who can insta travel anywhere they want in the universe .

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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    there are are Five ways of travel with a spaceship:

    1. Hyper-drive: Use in Star Wars and Stargate

    2. Slipstream: Used in Andromeda and Halo

    3. Warp: Star Trek

    4. Jump: Battlestar Galatica

    5. Time: Doctor Who

    there are probably more types of travel but I think these are the main ones.

    Hyper-drives is for me. It's Fast, you can communicate, and manly it's used by my favorite sci-fi

    The Time thing that the Doctor uses is my second choice
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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    1. Hyperspace (HyperDrive, JumpEngine): StarWars, Babylon-5, Stargate

    2. Slipstream (Slipstream Drive or Slip-Drive): Andromeda

    3. Warping Space (WarpDrive): StarTrek

    4. And Wormholes (Stargate, Supergate): Stargate Movie & Series (this is also an FTL travel method)

    Not sure about the Quantum Slipstream-Drive in StarTrek and Slipstream in Halo as well as Battlestar Galatica FTL travel methods.

    Slipstream appears to very fast. I mean galaxies in a few minutes if you are good. But, like someone pointed out it is chaotic/unpredictable and can have weird results. I even read Slipstream (Andromeda) travel causes little or no time dilation. Doesn't matter how much time you spent in the Slipstream, when come out of it, not much time has pass if any at all .

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    When comes to very long range travel, travel to multiple galaxies, I can think of only Andromeda & Stargate:

    1. Slipstream (Andromeda) : Large number of galaxies explored

    2: Wormholes (Stargate) : Unknown number of galaxies including the extremely distant Ori galaxy.

    3. Hyperspace (Stargate): Unknown number of galaxies

    As far as I know, all other Sci-Fi series are limited to one galaxy. StarWars, StarTrek, B-5, Battlestar Galatica (I am not sure about the StarWars Expanded Universe).

    So stargate has unique place in that sense.

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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingomon View Post
    there are are Five ways of travel with a spaceship:

    1. Hyper-drive: Use in Star Wars and Stargate

    2. Slipstream: Used in Andromeda and Halo

    3. Warp: Star Trek

    4. Jump: Battlestar Galatica

    5. Time: Doctor Who

    there are probably more types of travel but I think these are the main ones.

    Hyper-drives is for me. It's Fast, you can communicate, and manly it's used by my favorite sci-fi

    The Time thing that the Doctor uses is my second choice

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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperwarp View Post
    4. And Wormholes (Stargate, Supergate): Stargate Movie & Series (this is also an FTL travel method)
    Is a wormhole technically faster-than-light? You're not actually travelling the distance from one place to another, you're taking an alternate route (ie: a hole through space).

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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigFlush View Post
    Is a wormhole technically faster-than-light? You're not actually travelling the distance from one place to another, you're taking an alternate route (ie: a hole through space).
    Yes.

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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Quote Originally Posted by ZakeD View Post
    Yes.
    Please elaborate...

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    Default Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigFlush View Post
    Please elaborate...
    You're still traveling somewhere faster than light, right? By that logic hyperspace wouldn't be ftl either, since you are also taking an alternate route through hyperspace. Most people consider traveling through a wormhole to be ftl travel.

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    Question Re: Hyperdrive vs Slipstream

    It is method to travel great distances. Yes, it is like a short-cut. But, provides people and with supergate even ships to travel massive distances very quickly. Where it may take thousand of years in hyperspace.

    Even the WarpDrive, technically the ship does not actually travel faster than light. It never does. Withing the warp-field its sub-light. The ability travel long distance is that contracting-expanding of space.

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