Earth and supergates...

[garhkal]

In time, do you feel the SGC could make their own supergate, say from here to the Pegasus galaxy, so we could have our ships go 'visit' atlantis, and help out without having to travel all that time...???

[marty2006]

In time, do you feel the SGC could make their own supergate, say from here to the Pegasus galaxy, so we could have our ships go 'visit' atlantis, and help out without having to travel all that time...???

Pehaps at somepoint in the very far future.

[Keeper]

i'd guess not - power requirements are likely phenomonal (i seem to recall something about a black hole being involved) and there's no need for it. if we get the ability to build ZPMs we'll be fine, and even without that the deady has one doesn't it? so its faster than it was.

[mikeroq]

The only ship that has a ZPM is the Odyssey.

1 for the Odyssey
1 for Atlantis
1 for Antarctic Outpost

[V-MAN]

The only ship that has a ZPM is the Odyssey.

1 for the Odyssey
1 for Atlantis
1 for Antarctic Outpost

Spoiler:

The Atlantis one is flat now as of the end of season 3

[Keeper]

The only ship that has a ZPM is the Odyssey.

1 for the Odyssey
1 for Atlantis
1 for Antarctic Outpost

my mistake, sorry bout that. haven't seen the epi, tried to remember from what i've read about it

[kirmit]

In time, do you feel the SGC could make their own supergate, say from here to the Pegasus galaxy, so we could have our ships go 'visit' atlantis, and help out without having to travel all that time...???

I don't see it happening anytime in the near future or maybe not even at all, as far as we've seen the ancients didn't even have supergates and they were around millions of years. The Ori have them but they have ascended knowledge.

[Keeper]

I don't see it happening anytime in the near future or maybe not even at all, as far as we've seen the ancients didn't even have supergates and they were around millions of years. The Ori have them but they have ascended knowledge.

additionally, their galaxy seems to be much further away and it would probably drain their power sources significantly to get here, so they prefer to use the supergate rather than weaken their ships.

plus, crusades work best at high speed - otherwise ppl get bored en route and lose the fire of conquest before they even start.

[fallenexile452]

additionally, their galaxy seems to be much further away and it would probably drain their power sources significantly to get here, so they prefer to use the supergate rather than weaken their ships.

plus, crusades work best at high speed - otherwise ppl get bored en route and lose the fire of conquest before they even start.

Even if it took only a matter of weeks in a conflict that is far too long to waste especially if you can get all your ships here in a matter of seconds.

[Keeper]

Even if it took only a matter of weeks in a conflict that is far too long to waste especially if you can get all your ships here in a matter of seconds.

in one way yes, in another way no. if they'd come in slowly they might not have been noticed as quickly. as it was they announced their presence to every major player in the MW. fair enough they pummeled every major player at the same time, but they took a significant chance. if they came in slowly a few patrol vessels dissapearing would be the first sign that something was wrong. even then, the lack of info-sharing would mean the powers of the MW would blame each other, or else cover up their weaknesses. they'd actually have succeeded easier, since they'd have had no real challenges and ppl would have grown complacent about the threat.

i believe the power drain however may have thretened to be enough that MW ships would have threatened them and so they moved quicker to keep their power levels high.

[fallenexile452]

in one way yes, in another way no. if they'd come in slowly they might not have been noticed as quickly. as it was they announced their presence to every major player in the MW. fair enough they pummeled every major player at the same time, but they took a significant chance. if they came in slowly a few patrol vessels dissapearing would be the first sign that something was wrong. even then, the lack of info-sharing would mean the powers of the MW would blame each other, or else cover up their weaknesses. they'd actually have succeeded easier, since they'd have had no real challenges and ppl would have grown complacent about the threat.

i believe the power drain however may have thretened to be enough that MW ships would have threatened them and so they moved quicker to keep their power levels high.

If they had taken their time though it would have given us a greater chance to either organise a proper alliance rather than the ad-hoc fleet we saw when the first ships came through or ambush one of the vessels and get the technology off it. also lets remember how confident the ori were in their technology when they first came through, so even though they probably weren't expecting to see the fleet they probably thought it rather lucky that they could wipe out a good portion of the MW ships in one go. plus the ori strategy is more about power rather than strategy.

[wise one]

we dont even know how to make a supergate with all the materials and man power to make and place one

it took the earth several billions dollars to make some AG-3 in 'absolute power'
but that was just a dream

[fallenexile452]

we dont even know how to make a supergate with all the materials and man power to make and place one

it took the earth several billions dollars to make some AG-3 in 'absolute power'
but that was just a dream

We are producing ships now though but i think you're right we cannot even create a normal gate or dhd let alone make a supergate, although in 1969 it would appear that we can by whatever year that was.

[Keeper]

If they had taken their time though it would have given us a greater chance to either organise a proper alliance rather than the ad-hoc fleet we saw when the first ships came through or ambush one of the vessels and get the technology off it. also lets remember how confident the ori were in their technology when they first came through, so even though they probably weren't expecting to see the fleet they probably thought it rather lucky that they could wipe out a good portion of the MW ships in one go. plus the ori strategy is more about power rather than strategy.

true, but until they tried building a supergate we hadn't a clue how serious a threat they were. they also worked with a gouaould to get us to help them build their beachead. they direclty announced to us that they were coming - wheras if they'd taken stealth they wouldn't have risked a huge encounter. they must have realised that after a failed supergate we'd be on the lookout for a second attempt, and must have realised we'd try to gather what we could to face them.

[freyr's mother]

Also you run the risk of the wraith finding a faster way into our galaxy.