This is a Jump the Shark speculation and discussion thread and it will, at all costs, remain on the subject of whether or not folks feel that the show has jumped the shark.
THIS IS NOT A THREAD TO ATTACK YOUR FELLOW FANS FOR HAVING A DISAGREEABLE OPINION!!!
There will be spoilers, as the title indicates, and they will cover everything that has happened on the show as well as the recent news of upcoming cast changes for season 4. You've been warned.
I've recently seen people claiming that the "exploding tumors" storyline on Sunday was a "jump the shark" moment. Carson's death, Weir's reduced status and Sam's upcoming appearances have also been labeled as sharky moments in the show. I'm curious to see what else folks consider to be an unforgivable drop in quality?
If I had to pick a moment when I think the show started to nosedive, I'd say it was the introduction of the Michael storyline. Don't get me wrong, I think Michael is a fascinating character and although I never really liked Enterprise and was exceedingly dubious about having Connor Trinneer guest star, I think he did a tremendous job with what he was given. HOWEVER, I take severe issue with the mind-blowing, near-genocidal stupidity required of Team Atlantis in order to make the plotline work. They were repetitively stupid and unthinking and made decisions (particularly in regards to security) that no one in their right minds would make. I HATE it when writers turn their characters into drooling imbeciles just to achieve some moronic plot device. It is, in my opinion, a sign of lazy writing.
It was bad enough when it happened the first time but then they went ahead and repeated the same mistakes, making an unforgivable lapse in judgment even MORE outrageous. If they had been this stupid in season 1 they would all have been dead ten times over.
I only watch intermittently now and only if my favorite character is in it (sometimes not even then) or in the rare exception when I think the story sounds good. Judging from the sheer wealth of (IMO) questionable changes coming up for season 4 I think it's pretty safe to say that I won't be watching.
And no, obviously I haven't seen any eps of S4 yet but I am very much aware of what I like and what I don't like and I think that I am able to make a judgment call. For those who poo-poo such tactics I'll point out that unless you see each and every movie that comes out you must be making judgment calls "sight unseen" as well.
So... How 'bout the rest of you?
THIS IS NOT A THREAD TO ATTACK YOUR FELLOW FANS FOR HAVING A DISAGREEABLE OPINION!!!
There will be spoilers, as the title indicates, and they will cover everything that has happened on the show as well as the recent news of upcoming cast changes for season 4. You've been warned.
I've recently seen people claiming that the "exploding tumors" storyline on Sunday was a "jump the shark" moment. Carson's death, Weir's reduced status and Sam's upcoming appearances have also been labeled as sharky moments in the show. I'm curious to see what else folks consider to be an unforgivable drop in quality?
If I had to pick a moment when I think the show started to nosedive, I'd say it was the introduction of the Michael storyline. Don't get me wrong, I think Michael is a fascinating character and although I never really liked Enterprise and was exceedingly dubious about having Connor Trinneer guest star, I think he did a tremendous job with what he was given. HOWEVER, I take severe issue with the mind-blowing, near-genocidal stupidity required of Team Atlantis in order to make the plotline work. They were repetitively stupid and unthinking and made decisions (particularly in regards to security) that no one in their right minds would make. I HATE it when writers turn their characters into drooling imbeciles just to achieve some moronic plot device. It is, in my opinion, a sign of lazy writing.
It was bad enough when it happened the first time but then they went ahead and repeated the same mistakes, making an unforgivable lapse in judgment even MORE outrageous. If they had been this stupid in season 1 they would all have been dead ten times over.
I only watch intermittently now and only if my favorite character is in it (sometimes not even then) or in the rare exception when I think the story sounds good. Judging from the sheer wealth of (IMO) questionable changes coming up for season 4 I think it's pretty safe to say that I won't be watching.
And no, obviously I haven't seen any eps of S4 yet but I am very much aware of what I like and what I don't like and I think that I am able to make a judgment call. For those who poo-poo such tactics I'll point out that unless you see each and every movie that comes out you must be making judgment calls "sight unseen" as well.
So... How 'bout the rest of you?
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