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    Arrow1 Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    I pretty sure that the Pegasus gates are the newer ones and that they dial faster. The Milky way gates are older you can tell b/c they dial by rotating the whole wheel with all the symbols and the chevrons have to lock into place. Where as the Pegasus gates use symbols made of lights and only the symbols spin not the whole wheel.

    The ancient only went to Pegasus after their first attempt to settle the Milky Way failed (the encounter of the great plague the one that Ayiana carried). By then all the Milky Way gates were all ready in place.

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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    the earth gate is the only one that needs to spin. If you look on any given offworld gate, you'll see that they don't spin. You'll also notice that the atlantis gate makes the symbols light up until they get to a chevron. None of the pegasus offworld gates do that. Apparently, the stargates at the earth bases (atlantis and SGC) have to do some sort of spinny motion or else it wouldn't look cool. take a look. Maybe I'll make an animated GIF of examples of each gate dialing up and we can compare them, but I'm pretty sure what I wrote above is true.

    Another thing that's come into my mind from this is that while we know we can manually dial MW gates by spinning the inner ring once we have enough energy stored in the gate, to date, we've seen no indication that pegasus gates can be manually dialed. In fact, I vaguely remember Rodney saying it wasn't possible after the DHD was destroyed in "Phantoms", though that may have just been because there was no power to the gate seeing as the power source in the DHD was destroyed along with the dialing functions. What think you?
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    Stargate Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    so as far as we know the oldest gates are in the MW, we dont know if the Ori have SG's, but would explain why they always come by ship, because they dont have stargates!
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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    The only thing the Pegasus gates don't have is manual dialling!
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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenCaldwell View Post
    so as far as we know the oldest gates are in the MW, we dont know if the Ori have SG's, but would explain why they always come by ship, because they dont have stargates!
    Those ships got here by a giant gate....lol. How do you think the priors all got here in season 9 then? They didn't come in ships.

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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    i only realy watch Atlantis, if seen some of SG-1 but not alot. But ent the gates just big enough to fit a puddle jumper through!
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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenCaldwell View Post
    i only realy watch Atlantis, if seen some of SG-1 but not alot. But ent the gates just big enough to fit a puddle jumper through!
    At the end of SG1 season 8 the ori manage to get a working super stargate to allow the big toilet ships to travel quickly between galaxies.

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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    Quote Originally Posted by IWKYZerocool View Post
    At the end of SG1 season 8 the ori manage to get a working super stargate to allow the big toilet ships to travel quickly between galaxies.
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    Arrow2 Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    maybe with that whole mistake thing theres like a few second delay if theres too long a gap between the chevrons then it just resets itself turning off the lit up chevrons and not dialing anywhere and the ancients where in the Milky Way, then Pegasus and then back to the Milky Way where some mixed in with us (hence some humans having the ATA gene!!!!) and others lived in seclusion and ascended!!!!

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    Personally I prefer the Milky Way Gates.

    Although the only gate that literally spins is the SGC gate, we know they were all supposed to do this. - The Alpha gate (Found in Giza by Professor Langford, unlocked by Dr Jackson and used by the SGC now) and the Beta Gate (Discovered in Antarctica in "Solitudes" used by the SGC from season 4 - 6, and destroyed near Earth) both spinned while at the SGC, even though in Solitudes, the Beta Gate has a fixed bevel, as did the Alpha gate when it was beamed up to the Beliskner in “Nemesis.”

    The reason I mention this is because we have seen the rotating bevel used to manually dial the gate in the past. (Torment of Tantalus) wheras the Pegasus gates have no manual dial system, as McKay has shouted more than once. If SGA 1 get stuck offworld, they need the Daedalus to beam them up. SG1 can usually jimmy the Milky Way gates if they need to in order to get home.
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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    The only electronic stargates in the PG are those in Ancient outposts, they are the fastest their is, however normal gates in the PG and the MW dial at the same speed. The earth gates were the slowest ones

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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    Well as the Pegasus gates havent got an inner spinning wheel. So I'd say its a few seconds faster. It would be even faster if the Milky Way gate's inner ring got really rusty

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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    every wilky way gate (with a dhd) dial at the same speed as well the pegasus gates, there isn't any gate (of the same galaxy) than dial faster than another, and every pg gate have to splin, look episodes like "Home"
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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo-DR View Post
    Don't the DHD's typically dial as fast as you can hit the buttons?
    I know that on Earth with our makeshift DHD it takes a few seconds but we've seen episodes where they dial the DHD's as fast as we can type on our keyboards.
    The key to it all is that the gate actually has to lock the chevrons in place, so I guess the real question you want is do either of the Gate systems(Pegasus or Milky Way) actually spin faster than the other one.

    My answer would be: I have no idea.
    its weird but pegasus gates take time to dial
    you hit the glyph on the dhd and it lights up to that place like manually dialing,
    but just a little faster.
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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    Quote Originally Posted by .jolinar. View Post
    Well as the Pegasus gates havent got an inner spinning wheel. So I'd say its a few seconds faster. It would be even faster if the Milky Way gate's inner ring got really rusty
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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    As has been said before Pegasus gates are faster because they don't have to spin.

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    Nope. I really dont see the point in this. The time it takes to dial depends on how much time the plot needs o.O
    Havent you guys been watching the whole tv show ? It`s not a fix amount of time.

    And for ori/mw being older, even though when they started the thread wasnt available, in AOT is shown that there were no stargates in the ori galaxy.

    Probably the ascended ori created one just to conquer earth.

    Oh, and a few things.
    Pegasus gates lights spin, off world also, and the same goes to MW, it doesnt in all episodes, because they forgot, or they plot needed it to dial faster.

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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    With a DHD it doesn't need to spin, you type the symbols and the chevrons engage. Earth's dialing device takes so long because it's a computerized manual dial. However, if given enough time the gate will spin. Look at rising part two, the first chevron has time to spin and does so but the rest don't so they don't.
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    Default Re: Pegasus gates vs Milky Way gates

    Talking about rising.. if you look when the wraith call teyla`s planet gate, you can clearly see the lights spinning...
    And I guess most of the episodes in SG1 when they are offworld and they are receiving a call the gate spins...
    I guess it was supposed to spin ( either the inner ring or just the lights ) but they just forget from time to time..

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    Hi all.

    I also replied on the other post regarding the differences in the gates; The very first time I saw the Atlantis stargate I've always thought it is a "digital" gate, it cannot be dial manually; The Milky Way gate (SG-1) is an "analogue" gate, it is as good as comparing how fast you dial on a:

    -good old rotary phone &
    -a push-button phone

    I think the basic mechanics of dialing a Milky Way gate is the same wherever you are, I think it is just the show trying to cut down on the sometimes rather lengthy spinning of the inner ring with all the symbols, or addresses.

    - the inner ring of the Milky Way gate will always spin when you push one symbol at a time, I think
    - once the symbol "hits" the right chevron, it will "lock" in place

    The Atlantis gate works the same way, but instead of an inner spinning ring, the symbol electronically/digitally "spins" and "lands" on the right chevron to lock in place

    So I thought the Atlantis gate will dial faster, compare to the MW's; The disadvantage is, if you can't find a DHD or the DHD is damaged, there is probably no way you can do a "manual dial", that would make interesting story in Atlantis.

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