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    Default Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    It occurs to me that now we retrun part 2 spoilers
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    (the human race) has three ZPMs at its disposal woudln't the best weapon against the ori be a fully powered atlantis flying around the milky way taking on the ori fleet?
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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    Spoiler:
    well they give 2 away, one to the oddessy and one to the outpost

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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    the stardrive is blown to pieces, even if we did have the knowledge to fix it where are going to get the matierals? (the one in the tower is probably in as bad shape as atlantis and getting the matierals from the stardrive would be pretty impossible...
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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    The last of the Ancients are dead, the Asurans won't help us, who do you have in mind to teach us how to fix it and to give us technology capable of doing that? It's underwater. SGA has no building equipment.
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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    We dont have the technology and materials to repair the stardrive! (Atlantis has 1 ZPM)

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    Moreover, if the Ori redeployed their forces to rally their fleet on Atlantis and we successful, that's three ZPMs and on of the last bastions of Ancient technology gone in one bang. Not worth the risk.
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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    also, Atlantis is a city with defensive capabilities, not a warship. don't you think the ancients would have used it offensively against the wraith if it was very good at that?

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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    Well, it does appear the purpose of Atlantis is a bit more than how shall we say, just a city with defensive purposes.

    In fact, it's been said that it (Atlantis) is more significant than a city with defensive capabilities and the ability to fly. By the great and oh so wonderful TPTB
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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    if atlantis was designed to be a warship dont you think it would have been designed with offensive weapons, the drone and shields are purely defensive in nature and always have been. They may be very powerfull but they are, without question defencive weapons.

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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    The best defense is a good offense

    What I want to see is Altantis jumping out of hyperspace and kicking Lucian and Wraith pie

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    Keep dreaming. the stardrive is caput and without a replacement atlantis aint goign anywhere. Saying that however, they could ask the asgard to design a hyperdrive that could be used on atlantis, that they could power with ZPM's, we already know the asgard hyperdrives are much faster than the ancients, so they might actually be able to do it, maybe even improve on the one it origionally had.

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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    I KNOW.... I KNOW.....

    they should fix stardrive and ram Atlantis into supergate in MW (while firing drones and destroying couple tolets) and end both series with big bang? a?



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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tru Calling View Post
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    well they give 2 away, one to the oddessy and one to the outpost
    I am aware of the info in your spoiler thats why I said "available to the human race" and not "in Atalntis:. As for how to fix it and where to get the materials from presumably all that info is in the database and mckay has been prtty successful so far in fixing ancient systems. No underwater gear well now they have the gatebridge you could easily get hold of that. The best reply so far is the about you may loose atlantis in a battle with the ori fleet but atlantis should be able to out run th ori ships as it doesn't need a supergate to move between galaxies and you could test test ori shields by attacking them with drones from a jumper first before you commited the city ship.

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    Remember when SG1 expanded a hyperdrive field from a cargoship around an entire asteroid? Why cant the same be done with a ZPM and the daedalous? It was possible for a crappy little cargoship for a few minutes, with asgard engines and a zpm (or 3) it should be more than doable.

    Of course the question is really: would it be a good story? We can justify anything for the plot. Is there anything TOO outlandish or unreasonable to be done for the sake of a story in science fiction? No....

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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by dannyboy24 View Post
    It occurs to me that now we (the human race) has three ZPMs at its disposal woudln't the best weapon against the ori be a fully powered atlantis flying around the milky way taking on the ori fleet?
    I agree. What’s the Odysseus going to do with a ZPM? It can’t put up much of a fight, all it can do is go faster and hold its shield longer.
    With the Accent Outpost, you have to wait until the enemy comes to you and all it does is fire a few stupid drones. Atlantis can do that anyway, and take the fight to the Ori.

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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    I think it is likely to assume that they don't have the capability to repair the drive.
    - Drones can do a big amount of damage.
    - Not enough knowlage to fix it, especially not in a short period of time
    - Pegasus is a safer place to be than our own galaxy (Ori > Wraith)
    - Think of all the hidden tech stuff troughout pegasus, a base of operations inside the pegasus galaxy comes in handy when trying to find those treasures, Atlantis is in my opinion the only base that can serve that purpose
    - It kills the storyline
    - Some other parts of the city were flooded from day 1 of the expedition and were never repaired, why? Might be because they couldn't.

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    Atlantis probaably has microfactories that repair the stardrive and such. That could explain how the Asurans build so fast. They probably learned of the microfactories offscreen.
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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Shadow Quinn View Post
    Atlantis probaably has microfactories that repair the stardrive and such. That could explain how the Asurans build so fast. They probably learned of the microfactories offscreen.

    The microfactories might make sense to have but I doubt that they do as I would think that the Atlantis Stargate crew would have had some discovery of them by now.
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    Default Re: Wouldn't you fix the stardrive?

    Well considering how fast the Asurians stripped their ship and rebuilt Atlantis, and considering we don't know the extent of the damage, the Asurians may have been able to fix the stardrive with no problems. Even if they were taken out before work was finished, they should have been able to fix quite a bit.

    Although I don't want to underestimate Carson's chair abilties, he's not exactly the one person i'd trust to destroy something. He always seems to have trouble doing the simple things, and doing the simple things has almost gotten people killed. The destruction may have not have been that bad, because Carson went there to save Atlantis and considering he's not as single minded as Sheppard when it comes to the chair, Carson is all over the place and since the drones work on though, they may have done minimal damage, just enough to stop the replicators from doing the full amount of damage they are capable off.

    Since the shields were going to be activated if the ship took off, or to stop the Daedalus, the result would have been the same so if Carson knew this, it's more reason for him to hesitate and do less damage



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    Why did they destroy the stardrive anyway?

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